WARNING: Nobody has ever been healed of HIV at SCOAN

Thousands of people flock to SCOAN with the misplaced hope that they will be healed

Thousands of people flock to SCOAN with the misplaced hope that they will be healed

Recently you may have read the exciting news that a 2.5 year old girl has been cured of HIV. What struck our attention when reading the articles was the fact that this girl is reported to be the second person in history to have been cured of HIV. Here is how some of the big news agencies are reporting it.

Researchers say the only other documented case of an HIV cure is that of Timothy Brown, known as the “Berlin patient.” In 2007, Brown, an HIV-positive American living in Germany, was battling both leukemia and HIV when he underwent a bone marrow transplant that cured not only his cancer but his HIV. CNN

Dr Persaud thinks her patient, a two-and-a-half-year-old girl whose identity is confidential, has joined Timothy Brown, a man known to many as the “Berlin patient”, as a human being who was once definitively infected with HIV and now no longer is. Economist

The only fully cured AIDS patient recognized worldwide is the so-called “Berlin patient,” American Timothy Brown. He is considered cured of HIV and leukemia five years after receiving bone marrow transplants from a rare donor naturally resistant to HIV. The marrow transplant was aimed at treating his leukemia. Discovery

In 2007, Timothy Ray Brown became the first person in the world believed to have recovered from HIV. BBC

What about all those supposedly healed of HIV at SCOAN? On their website currently they have 9 testimony videos of people claiming they were cured of HIV at SCOAN. Multiple identical news articles (usually proof that it is the work of SCOAN PR rather than genuine a journalistic piece) on African news sites state that “HUNDREDS of people from across Africa have said they were healed of HIV/AIDS after visiting Nigerian Prophet TB Joshua” (e.g. here, here and here).

Whatever the real number of people SCOAN claim have been healed, it is a lot more than what some of the biggest and most respected news agencies in the world are aware of.

What can we make of this discrepancy? Simple:

Nobody has ever been healed of HIV at SCOAN or by TB Joshua

How can we say this with such certainty? Consider the following:

  1. Proving that someone once had HIV and no longer does is a fairly simple process.
  2. “Hundreds” of people being healed of HIV is world-shaking, front page news.
  3. If people really were being healed at SCOAN they would have flown in world-renowned experts in the virus to validate their claims instead of showing dubious ‘before and after’ medical certificates (who knows whether they are genuine or if the doctor signing them was bribed?).

HIV is an epidemic in Africa. False healing only spreads it faster and more widely. This must be stopped. If SCOAN are to continue claiming people are healed of HIV, they should open their doors to any researcher who wants to come and investigate and validate their claims, in fact they should actively encourage it and publish the findings in full. The fact that they have not done this is strong evidence that the claims would not stand up to this kind of scrutiny. For this reason we have no choice but to assume it is all a lie.  It is too important an issue to sit on the fence.

If you are a supporter of SCOAN, you should encourage this call for transparent and independent research into their claims. If the claims are true, TB Joshua will become the most well known and celebrated minister on this planet, if the claims are not true – anyone involved in upholding them is contributing to the death and misery of many.

172 thoughts on “WARNING: Nobody has ever been healed of HIV at SCOAN

  1. AT SCOAN ITS THE WORK OF GOD AND NO NEED TO TRY AND PROVE TO YOU THAT THIS IS REL OR NOT,ITS NOT BY FORCE,LET THOSE WHO BELIEVE,BELIEVE AND THOSE LIKE YOU REMAIN THAT WAY,THATS Y OTHERS WILL SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND OTHERS NOT.YOU SAY THOSE THAT CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN CURED BRING FORGED MEDICAL REPORTS,HOW DO YOU KNOW?DO U HAVE PROOF?YOU ARE DARKNESS AND DOESNT GO ALONG WITH LIGHT, am asking heavenly father to forgive me for i have fought for him his battle,but it pains me much people despising the work of God thats being done by his servant Prophet TB Joshua! Amen!

    • We’re not talking about belief in God, we’re talking about belief in outlandish claims of healing hundreds of people of HIV, when the best authorities on the disease say that only two have ever recovered (and nothing to do with SCOAN). If SCOAN make these claims, they have to be backed up with more credible evidence than a blurry picture of two pieces of paper.

      • Why the authors of this website Do NOT see that they bring curse and destruction upon themselves?!!! The Best Authority on HIV is Jesus Christ, and your slanderous work demonstrates that you DO NOT KNOW JESUS CHRIST whatsoever and set up this web sight by the inspiration of the devil himself. Why do you want to perish in tormenting HELL, doing the will of the devil??? Why not repent, you might be forgiven before it is too late!

      • Are the authors of these wicked website claim to be “experts” in HIV, spreading thier lies? THEY TOTALLY FORGET GOD AND HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD!!!
        Psalm 50:22 “Now consider this, you who forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver…”

      • Why do you hide yourself and do Not Tell your real names and your address to people? There is No Hiding place for you!!! You will be broght to justice!!! Let not God’s mercy pass over you. You might do it in ignorance, God knows your heart and you will get exactly what you deserve!

      • Why do we not tell our real names and addresses to people? Maybe because of hysterical supporters of SCOAN who tell us “there is no hiding place for you!!! You will be brought to justice!!!”

      • Why do you want to know the names and addresses of people so you can attack them instead of addressing the issues raised here ? We have proved your master is a false prophet by the Word of God so why don’t you do the same and prove us wrong, instead of looking for names and addresses to attack people ? You see, you’re just like the Jews who took stones to stone Jesus because they didn’t like His message. Attack the message, not the messenger ! In any case, why is TBJ threatening people on this blog ? Let me tell you this, TBJ can’t silence anyone here and he cannot bribe anyone of us like he does in Nigeria. We’re untouchable and we will continue to expose TBJ until his mask comes off completely !

      • @ Constant Blessings,

        Does it suit a Christian to blow hard to other Christians to speak Word curses to them ?

        You don’t know of what spirit you are, that is what Jesus said.

        Luke 9:51-56
        And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, 52 And sent messengers before his face:and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. 53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

        So we return those word curses in the Hands of Our Lord And Saviour Jesus Christ and He will decide what to do with them.

      • Even the brothers of Jesus Christ did not believe that He did the signs, miracles and wonders He claimed to do, for they said to Him “if you do these things show yourselve to the world”. What was His reply to His brothers…., I leave that to you to study your bible. I will kindly advice that if you want to preach the gospel do it to your own capacity. Let God be the judge of who He has called to be His servant. My wisdom of this world is foolishness, I wonder whether you are a christian at all. You are talking about subjecting the power of God to scrutiny, why dont you also subject the claims of Jesus to scrutiny, or His ressurection. Why not also scrutinise the dividing of red sea to scrutiny. May God have mercy on you, stop leading people astray denying them of their salvation because of your weak theories and logic.

      • In summary this website is a sham and scam. Those without purpose and focus in life. I have got better things to do, no more wiring in this forum it is a waste of my time. If the owner/proprietor of this websites beliefs that Jesus is your master, then go and deliver TB Joshua, and if you can’t, go and recieve your deliverance from the man of God TB Joshua, and recieve Christ in your heart genuinely for the salvation of your soul. Judas Iscariot’s.

    • Thanks for ur support. Many of the nay sayers here are working for the devil anyway. Some of them are aware of their alliance with the devil, some are simply innocents that are being recruited by the agents here. Let us pray for them, that the God of Prophet TB Joshua may show them mercy.

      • Let us pray that the grace of Jesus is shown to all those who make threats. Let us pray that the truth is revealed to the people who are part of SCOAN who look to TB Joshua as their “father” instead of being held by the love of the Father God. Let us pray for the power of the holy spirit to be truly revealed in this place bringing freedom for the captives and sight to the blind. Let us pray in the name of Almighty Jesus.

      • @ Farmer M.

        I declare that Jesus Christ is Lord over TB Joshua Watch and all that contribute to it as well myself.

        1 John 4:2-4
        Hereby know ye the Spirit of God:Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God:and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
        4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them:because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

        Amen

        Devil, you shall fall after the order of Goliath, I am flinging the stone of Faith and the Blood of the Lamb and our Testimony against your forehead. You shall lie down in torment. In Jesus Name !

  2. Moderators of TB Joshua watch blog. Are you Christless character Christians? Why your acts and sayings look more like Accusers acts than acts of Christians? Why are you working against Christ forgiveness, against love of Father God and blood of Jesus that covers all things?

    Love covers all things (1 Cor. 13.7)

    I counsel you to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that you may be rich; and white clothing, that you may be clothed, and that the shame of your nakedness does not appear; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. (Revelation 3:18-19) KJB

    But if you forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. (Matt. 6:15) KJB

    Jesus does not hold things against others like you hold. You Moderators of TBJwatch blog were forgiven much, therefore you have to forgive much.

      • Seriously, the owners of this blog have raised an important issue before us all and the least people should do is to praise them and not stay here defending the indefensible all because they are being blind folded and brain washed by faith.I watch Emmanuel TV most of the time and the more I watch the more I become more enlightened that all those deliverance, healing, miracles and testimonies that takes place there are nothing but stage works, even most of the so called recipients are not that good with their scripts..I mean their acting style is so poor below reasoning. The Bible says ”Test all spirits and find out which is of God” And so if TBJ and his team claim all the miracles taken place there almost on daily basis are genuine, then they should also gladly open their doors and allow to be cross-examined.

    • …and no we’re not going to approve those multiple comments you just posted with HIV healing testimony videos. Not because we’re covering anything up, we even linked to the same videos in the article – the reason we’re not going to post them is they add nothing to the discussion because (as explained in the article) they contain no credible evidence that the healings are genuine.

      • You will fight with TB.JOSHUA,but you will never win.This is a holy man of ALMIGHTY GOD.A prophet of our days,sent to deliver people.Oh,may GOD punish you.Remember,TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED.

    • candle holder; forgive their trespasses? Yes, I will. What do you know about the trespasses of TB Joshua,s activities.? Listen, you fool; this story is about the mis-leading of terrible desperate suffering souls, who come for healing, because it is promoted by TB Joshua, that they all will be healed. Do you have the same lack of mercy, as TB Joshua has,? People are dieing even before they can enter scoan. Is this a house of God? Or a house of dis-gusting mis-using of the hope and faith of very sick people? You are gone pray for the truth of what is realy happening Candle Holder, I demand you! Fool!

      • EVEN JESUS DID NOT HEAL ALL WHO CAME TO HIM.ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE FAITH.I KNOW EVEN TODAY JESUS CAN HEAL SERIOUS DISEASES LIKE CANCER,HIV AIDS,SERIOUS ULCERS LIKE THOSE WE SAW AT SCOAN WHICH TB JOSHUA PRAYED FOR PEOPLE.I PRAY TO GOD TO GIVE ME A GIFT OF HEALING SERIOUS DISEASES LIKE THAT OF TB JOSHUA.

      • Jamie,

        You wrote to me above:

        “Listen, you fool”

        It shows what kind of heart attitude you have and what kind of “Christless Christian Acts” you represent, just read this quotation for yourself:

        But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, YOU FULL, SHALL BE IN DANGER OF HELL FIRE.

        (Matt 5:22)

        You risk you eternal life Jamie. You choose accuser role.

        :

      • So you have to insult people to convince them that TB J is fake! Shame on you and shame on the organisers of this website! May the Holy fire consume all of you! TBJ does not force people to go to the SCOAN it is a personal decision! There is a lady who has a baby a fter a long spell of barreness in her marriage and I know her story so you people should shut up! The lady had this baby after she prayed for at the SCOAN! So for us who have received our miracles from God through the prophet won’t be moved or convinced by your slander! May God have mercy on you!

  3. The Nigerian conman, T B Joshua has been deceiving multitudes and now it is time to FULLY EXPOSE him. So nobody ever got healed of HIV at SCOAN ? Haba, Temitope, na wa for you oooo. Your mago mago dey too much, my friend. Come out now and confess your lies and manipulations and be forgiven. The day you make your public confession, I would stop writing on this blog, but until then, ALUTA CONTINUA !

    • ONE DAY I ASKED MYSELF,WHY PEOPLE KEEP ON FIGHTING THIS MAN?I DECIDED TO TRACE THE MAN AND HIS HISTORICAL BACKGROUND AND FOUND OUT THAT,THIS MAN IS VERY SPIRITUAL POWERFUL AND HAS GOD’S POWER THAT’S WHY PEOPLE,INCLUDING OTHER MEN OF GOD FIGHT HIM.ANY WAY I BELIEVE THE MAN.

      • Funny. I decided to trace the man and his background and the “testimonies” on his website and found arrogance, deciet and blasphemy.

        Are you one of those who now prays in TB Joshua’s name as if it was interchangeable with the name of Jesus? I have seen that several times now and find it disturbing.

        Does TB Joshua sit at the right hand of God with Jesus, the only prophet worthy to be at the altar of God, every other prophet and man of God relegated to an “overflow room” (apparently even the 24 elders mentioned in Revelation)? Because SCOAN recently posted a “testimony” of a man promoting that very idea, saying God showed it to him. To much applause.

        I will never follow a man who allows such blasphemy to be promoted in his church. Never.

      • If there is a way of convincing your husband not to go, it is probably best you do. The people we personally know who became ensnared in this were far from stupid or immature Christians but totally bought into the SCOAN scam. The most tricky technique they use is to disable your sense of discernment by twisting scriptures such as “judge not”, “touch not the Lord’s anointed” and “whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit…” etc… Once they have convinced you that you can’t question what is going on there, it doesn’t matter how discerning you once were or how well you know your scriptures. Possibly the best approach with your husband is to help him to see that he can and should put SCOAN to the test.

    • Candle holder, dont border to much about my eternal life. Until now no-one of the scoan-people has ever cared for it. So please; do care about your own eternal life, because you are in greater and more serious danger then I do. I have God, you have TB Joshua, and that makes a huge difference. If you realy care for the soul of others, then jump on the neck of TB Joshua, and correct his wierdness and deluded insights. You can ask him too to remove the blind sight of your own. Blinds are guided by lames.

    • Mr Mago Mago. For you to have come out with a colorful expletive as this, one can deduce where you are from. You are a Nigerian. Specifically either Youruba, Lagos bred southerner or Lagos bred Easterner. Definitely not a northerner and not a foreigner. One word – May God forgive you, if you one day turn to him for forgiveness. You have slandered an anointed man of God! Psalm 105:15 “Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.”
      You people keep harping tirelessly on this issue, Have you made any effort to investigate at all? Were you at the Synagogue at all? I ask these question because i was there! I went to Nigeria and met the Man of God. Snr. T B Joshua. One thing though, there are two masters, one greater that the other. It is clear who your master is – satan. The problem is that many that are ignorant of the things of the spirit will read your blasphemous posts here and they will be misled. May God forgive you Mr Terrific – AKA Mago Mago

  4. Mr. Terrific,
    I fully agree with you on what you said on:
    Repost: The Miracles of TB Joshua
    February 19, 2013
    11 March 2013 about tbj.
    I enjoyed reading it. I could not have said it better!
    It was nice to read the comments of someone whose eyes have opened up to the deceit in scoan.

    And on the HIV healings:
    In the groups I took in the past to scoan. There were HIV patients, going for prayer, without their affected partners.
    Should they have been healed from HIV – I was wondering, how they will stay free from being healed of HIV, as their partners did not go and how is it possible to stay away from sexual relationships in a marriage?

    When I asked them about this, they could not answer me and no one wanted to go for HIV tests afterwards?

    Scoan told them to abstain forever?!

    Interesting article – thanks.

    • I guess the Lord allowed me to go to SCOAN so I could tell others about what’s going on there. Looking back now, I realize the wisdom of God in not allowing me to become a ” disciple,” TBJ would have infected me with his demons, but now I’m in a better position to cast his demons out of him !

    • My friend just wonder, if you watch emmanueltv you will hear for yourself several times how the Man of God has addressed this issue. That is why he always requests that their partners come down immediately for their healing else they will be re-infected again. In the same vain, it is like someone healed of the punishment of sin and then returns to sin. how can that healing stand the test of time. Jesus saw the man that was healed by the pool of Bethesda, and said “see you are well again go and sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you” please read your scriptures and don’t allow the devil and his agents decieve you from recieving your salvation.

  5. Well I find the arguments and counter arguments very interesting and has only one suggestion. The proof of the pudding, they say, is in the eating. Why are you sitting on the fence making assertions and accusations? Get on the ‘field’, talk to those who may have been healed or those sick to be healed and get on a personal encounter with a before and after case. Then go on and say whether it is true or it is isnt true. I would tell you one thing, dont always believe only the big news articles/newspapers. They only publish what they want the masses to believe and know. If you have the clout, get them to go to Malawi and ascertain if Garani MW1 is actually healing anybody and you would be shocked by confirmed HIV positive cases that turned negative. Has any of these been reported? Why would it be reported and published when it is not a drug or medicine by BIG Pharma.

    • We are working on getting in contact with some people who have experienced this “healing” for a future article, but for most of the cases we know about sadly they are no longer around. Also, credible research would require an expert in the field examining the patient before and after the supposed healing, this is not something we can facilitate. SCOAN teach that you can lose your healing if you doubt it, so people are under huge pressure to keep up appearances (e.g. keep saying they are healed) even if all evidence points to the healing not having taken place.

      Any claims from anyone (TBJ or otherwise) of HIV being healed need to be subjected to rigorous scrutiny. It’s not hard to confirm, and few journalists are on the payroll of pharmaceutical companies. It would be the story of the century if any of these claims turned out to be true, I don’t believe there is any secular coverup.

      • Edwin so far has been the only pro SCOAN commnet that actually addresses the article. Thankyou.

        The other problem is this – even if you did find people who had been prayed for and were still posative
        – SCOAN supporters would say its cos of their lack of faith.
        – SCOAN supporters would say they were paid to lie. There have been plenty of accusations on this site, with evidence – like the doctored ‘prophecies’ or the stolen quotes, yet SCOAN people refuse to acknowlegde.

        I keep asking from time to time, what evidence would be acceptable (for any accusation, e.g. rape, stolen literature, HIV patients, etc)….no one has yet answered this.

        Once you have made up your mind about TBJ, no evidence is acceptable.

      • You talk about credible research. R u saying you are condemning this Man of God even without credible research? Wao. Something is wrong somewhere! We all pray for you. Let The God of TB Joshua show you some mercy. You will need it.

      • Mercy comes from God. God the Father of Jesus Christ. God who loved us so much that he sent his only son.

  6. I forgot to mention,
    When I was still part od SCOAN, someone asked me the same question – if there are so many HIV cases being helaed, why wasnt it big news, being investigated by secular medical professionals? My answer was that because it had to do with “Jesus”, no one would take it seriously.
    This sounded like a good answer, but to say that medical science is not interested in “faith healing” is not true. They are. My sister was healed of throat and lung cancer when she was about to die. She was treated in four different countries, but there was no cure, nor any explanation when the cancer disappeared. Their investigations concluded it was indeed a miracle.
    Last December I was sitting on a plane next to an Arab woman who was studying about cancer treatment, and I was telling her about how Jesus healed my sister of cancer. She said that in the hospital she worked/studied at, there were a few similar cases like that – she specifically said it was only “the church people” (she was a muslim) – who this happened to when they prayed, that the cancer would diseappear.

    Point is, my answer above was not entirely true. The medical world DO acknowldege and ARE interested in “supernatural” healings. I would ask the same question – if hundreds of people have been healed of HIV at SCOAN over the years, why have none of them have been investigated by real professionals?

    A bit of paper held up for the camera says absoltely nothing.

    • Giles,

      What is more important the eternal life or hunting TB Joshua ? Jamie said to me “you fool” and risk eternal life. What kind of mentor you are ? Who do you support ? Behind what kind of people you stay ?

      Oh Giles Giles…?

      • dont play the old fire and brimestone on me. I dont scare that easily. Theres nothing wrong with discernment ;-)

      • @Candleholder,
        How can people have eternal life when they’re being deceived by a false prophet, when they’re being told a false prophet is their messiah and that they could receive salvation through an anointing water of salvation ? When they’re being taught doctrines of demons ? Nobody is telling you to stop believing TBJ. Indeed, you can believe him all you want, but allow us to continue to warn the Lord’s people, or do you not know that we’re called to preach, to teach and to warn ? Read Colossians 1:28.

    • Beloved, I am worried too. Are we not supposed to live with these so called “healed” brethrens. Do they come from the moon? How effective and Christlike should someone be healed and cannot be seen. Infact the story goes that if such person looses faith in future, the sickness would reappear. Common sence dictates that such person will ever live to be grateful. Are we to assume that after these “healings”, they are “wasted” to avoid scandal. The few that spoke out are lucky to have escaped. Why should the forigners international passports be seized. Why, why, why? It speaks volumes.

      Can you remember one reverend King. His faithfuls made several claims even with clear cut evidences. Could someone ever believe that such an enclave harbours the devil himself.

      Many gullible onse are killed on daily bases in the so called miracle centres becuase they are sick in the mind and soul and are taken advantage of.

      Manny

      • HAHAHA, Giles, I am so amased that you were able to mention that your sister was healed of throat and Lung Cancer by the power of God, you forgot to mention where she recieved her healing/prayers. I believe this was when you where at SCOAN. If at SCOAN, then if the power of God can heal throat and lung cancer, so is HIV a big deal for God to heal? The SCOAN ministry has been in existence for more than 20 years and growing from glory to glory. Manny you mentione rev king, where is he now? People whatever is not of God will not stand the test of time, so don’t fight for God, God can fight for Himself. Similalrly time will tell about this dubious website.

    • Bbc and sky news were professional enough, they tried investigating, but went about it the wrong way. Sending spies with different spy camerals to the church, With this, shall we say they went there for genuine reasons? or to find defaults. Giles You can actually make things different this time around by going there, defining your genuine aim and purpuse. I believe you will be convince beyound all doubt, because t.b.joshua encourages people to ask questions and see evidences in other to make their Faith grow. Yours will not be any difference. though it is for your personal believe, because you are not professional enough. if professionals can do such, how about amateures? thats this world for you.

      Secondly, we acknowledge evidence, but not hypothesis which cannot be further proven. Don’t just sit here and write story of people we do not know, these can easily be forged, lets get into conversation with them then we will know the truth. expecially with the set up standard of Scoan today, i think We will need more than just writing to convince us, just as you asked for more proofs from scoan. Though Scoan has greater chances for people to believe cos eveything is televised live before thosands and millions of people, and we have opportunity to meet this people in other to clear our doubts, not just the pictures and writings we have here. So i believe you have more work to do in convincing us. try harder!

      • @ Mr. Doi,

        Why try harder ? When the questions that I had or have are not answered which are genuine why try harder ? It is so clear that those questions I asked cannot be answered than with a full yes that they are true. Because those that were asked all walk away from this blog because apparently their consciousness is burning because they know that lies will not do to those that ask directly about these matters.

        Again, Doi, do you admit and approve there are fake deliverances taking place in SCOAN ?, Do you admit and approve their are lies spoken by the leaders ?, why were the leaders not delivered from their personal demons they claimed to have in the last sessions of deliverance 10-12 years ago when entering SCOAN or discovered by TB Joshua who claims he speciality is deliverance and word of knowledge, prophecy ?, how is it possible to go out as leaders and travel to many countries and do deliverance while being possessed themselves using the different types of “anointed water”. If the “anointed water” is to expose the demons and sicknesses, why did they not manifest on themselves while using it ? Do you deny that particles of the water did not touch or hit them while spraying it ? How do you explain the workings of “anointed water, rubber wristband, oil” that create more problems than it solves when sprayed in a specific place or spot. What is the evidence that whatever the persons that go under deliverance these are demons in the first place. Demons like from the planet Mercury and having a base there, Poseidon the Greek sea God which are Greek mythology and likely do not exist, Demons that can conjure up money (millions) by the room size load as confessed by a deliveree, but fail to demonstrate this when the “deliverance” takes place by the wisemen.

        Give me the truth and answers ? Don’t twirl around and keep beating around the bush. Admit that you have no answer or are not willing to give no answer because you have to step in a grey area that likely contains and produces more lies. Keep in mind I will address you personally about it if you divert, twist, twirl, avoid or keep challenging me. Confess that I am right or prove me otherwise that I am wrong and why ?

      • The burden of proof is with SCOAN not us or the rest of the world. That was the point being made in the article above. According to widely accepted research, only two people have ever recovered from HIV, neither of which was through SCOAN. If SCOAN are making the extraordinary claim that they’ve seen hundreds healed of HIV, they had better have some extraordinary evidence to back it up. So far all they present is the testimony of the person “healed” and some easily forgable medical certificates. For the kind of claim they are making, this is woefully inadequate. This is the kind of evidence required: Several internationally known experts in HIV should examine HIV patients before and after being healed at SCOAN over a period of time. There should be more than one of these experts conducting their research independently, and their reports should match. If there really was credible evidence that anyone (let alone hundreds) of people were being healed of HIV, the best names in the industry would be knocking down the SCOAN front door. To be involved in reporting this would be the career break of the century.

        Let me ask you this Doi – what if SCOAN’s claims are wrong? Do you know of anyone who has continued to suffer with HIV after being “healed” by TBJ? I’m fairly sure you will. What about all those you don’t know about? What about their partners they go on and infect, believing they are clean? What about the subsequent partners of these partners? And so on.

    • What on earth does that mean? Are you saying someone can be “spiritually” healed of HIV but not physically? What use is that?! Either someone is healed of HIV or they’re not! It is measured medically not spiritually.

      You’re probably about to say we’re not spiritual enough to understand, but try telling that to those who have lost loved ones because of this fake healer.

    • YES and AMEN TO ABOVE WORDS FROM JOSHUA MATAGANE!
      THINGS OF THE SPIRIT CAN BE DISCERNED Rightly ONLY BY THOSE WHO HAVE THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD.
      God said: “But he who is spiritual judges all things yet he himself is rightly judged by no one”, I Cor. 2:15
      TB JOSHUA IS A MIGHTILY ANOINTED MAN OF GOD! HE DOES ‘BOTHER’ VERY MUCH THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS. THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS IS SHAKEN and WILL CONTUALLY BE SHAKEN EVEN GREATER ON EACH CONTINENT!
      THIS WEBSITE IS INFLUENCED AND RUN BY DEMONS!
      They proved it here many times over and over again!
      Precious Heavenly Father I pray that you have mercy upon these people who are influenced by demons and slander Your Anointed One Jesus Who lives and works through TB Joshua healing even HIV, Yes and Amen!

    • Joshua Matagane, Well if Tb joshua realy has the matured sweet fruits, then all his failors are just some rotten-fruit-accidents? The bible says, that a good tree will give good fruit, and a bad tree bad fruit. Maybe I overlook something and there are mixed trees too? Good and bad-fruits? And what do you mean by maturing? You believe TB Joshua is matured? Thats a misstake, dont look at outer appearences, but look deeper, and you will find a great surprise! He is not exactly matured, he is more; expert in behaving as one. He is expert in more qualities to look-like-some-one-he-is-not.

      • I know one day you will go to SCOAN and apologize for what you have said and done to the man of God,TB.JOSHUA.I will ask TB.JOSHUA not to forgive you untill to confess to the whole world as our mummy,in yesterday 17th March 2013 SCOAN Sunday Live Service.

    • Please get some scripture schooling, you can not blasphem an odinary man.
      This term is totally wrong.

      • The people who initiated this website do an Atrocious BLASPHEMY and are bringing HORRENDOUS CURSE UPON THEMSELVES!
        I do not work for TB Joshua, but I am sending you to watch the following video to open your spiritual understanding and DO THE SAME AS THIS MAN DID ASAP before it is too late:

      • God has not given us videos or television to watch, but His Word to read and learn. You don’t even know your Bible and are here saying what you don’t know.

      • @ constant blessings

        And I render that curse to nought that it shall fall to the ground and be nullified and then I put it in the hands of Jesus Christ Who will decide what to do with your curses.

        Learn your lessons from Balak and Balaam

        Numbers 23:8
        How shall I curse, whom God hath not cursed?
        or how shall I defy, whom the Lord hath not defied?

        Proverbs 26:2
        As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying,
        so the curse causeless shall not come.

        Romans 12:14-18
        Bless them which persecute you:bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
        17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

        Luke 6:28
        Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

        God bless you and may He give all the desires of your heart Psalms 37:4

        But if you are wicked in your mind, consider this:

        Psalms 140:8
        Grant not, O Lord, the desires of the wicked:
        further not his wicked device;
        lest they exalt themselves. Selah.

    • Question for those who have been involved with SCOAN and seen the deception–my husband is desperate to go there. He has sent money to SCOAN (and was angry to recieve communications from the UK branch, he wanted it to go directly to TBJ/Nigeria), believing he will recieve “breakthrough” (which has not happened). If he could, he would be on a plane to Nigeria tomorrow to meet the man of God in person.

      With the knowledge that my husband is for some reason blinded on this one issue, is intelligent, tends not to take authoritarianism well, and has otherwise been very skeptical of “prophetic” stuff, how to you advise me to position myself about him going to SCOAN? If I oppose it outright, he will go purely to save face and prove me wrong. Should I even encourage him to go and check it out? Many times I think that if he just went there, he would be able to discern the wrong spirit, and perhaps just seeing stuff on screen, being told what he’s seeing, and being unaware of the video editing that goes on has allowed him to be decieved. Perhaps he would experience behavior that would take the scales off his eyes? Is that correct? I am tempted to say “Go, then.” so that we can be done with this and I don’t have to hear about the “Man of God” for the next 20 years. But I worry, too, that I would lose my husband forever, if he went, because I also know intelligent, godly people who have been trapped for life in a cult situation. His desperation blinds him and makes him vulnerable, and I cannot say whether that will win out, or his God-given intelligence and discernment will shine through the mess at some point.

      • @ M,
        It is easier to go into a cult and be trapped, than to get out of it. If your husband has discernment, he would know by now that TBJ is fake. Those of us who were taken in by the scam had no discernment, nor any sound foundation in the Scriptures, and it was just by the grace of God that we found our way out of this madness and stupidity. If your husband does not see anything wrong with the false teachings and manipulations and deception, then I’m afraid, he is getting into trouble by wanting to go into the lion’s den to see how the lions behave. One thing I know, if your husband goes there, he is lost ! Pray for the Lord to grant him discernment and understanding and tell him to read the Bible for illumination.

      • @ M,

        Do not allow him to go, remember when you play with tar you will get black and sticky. It’s not worth it. I believe it can damage him irrevocably. Pray that if he wants to know from God then let him pray unto God that He will reveal Himself unto him. I know from experience He is Faithful and will do it. This can come in all kinds of forms, dreams, visions, words, word of knowledge, circumstances, revelation, that is what the Holy Spirit is for. 1 John 2:27. Tell him that. Keep praying for him and with friends and I will pray too.

        No need to see any man for it. See Jesus He is the best Prophet ever. Keep pointing out that he needs Jesus alone and no-one else. The Holy Spirit is right there just a breath away.

        Revelation 19:10
        And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not:I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus:worship God:for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

      • Jesse, a person can not stop another person from doing anything. My husband’s has become ensnared by T B Joshua and will not listen to anything I say about it, or listen to anything other family members, pastors, elders, and friends from various churches say to him about it. He has rejected all of us for T B Joshua. He has taken several trips to the SCOAN. I believe the Bible tells us that God wants us to turn all our cares directly over to Him. It is amazing that God has made it possible for us to pray to God Himself directly. When terrible, horrible, painful, cruel, unjust things happen to us as we are living our lives as Christ followers, sometimes we won’t know why this side of heaven. But God calls us to still trust Him through it all. To still affirm that God is good all the time, even when we are experiencing all sorts of suffering. Ps 23:4

      • @ Very,

        God never promised us a rose garden, easy walk or even no resistance in life. We are constantly confronted with hardship and difficulties which is part of our choices and ways of our doings and how other people make choices and their doings. Remember you are always responsible how you react and what you do about it. Unless you could not help it when another one made another choice. But there is always another way to go about it.

        Comfort and encourage yourself in what Paul and Peter said what they faced in their lifetime:

        I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little. That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also. For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise. For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite you on the face. I speak as concerning reproach, as though we had been weak. Howbeit whereinsoever any is bold, (I speak foolishly,) I am bold also. Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I. Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches. Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not? If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities. The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not. In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king kept the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desirous to apprehend me: And through a window in a basket was I let down by the wall, and escaped his hands.
        2 Corinthians 11:16-33

        and

        Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
        1Peter 4:12-16

        God bless you and I pray and wish His incredible unconditional love upon you and your family and be encouraged that the Christian walk of life is not an easy one but in the end of the journey it will be well. Take Care….God loves you.

        Jesse

      • Thank you for the replies. That is my fear, that he will go and be trapped. Perhaps it is just my impatience and petulance about it that makes me want to say “Just go then, and let’s be done with this.” I will bite my tongue and pray instead. Though of course, I cannot stop him if he chooses to go. :( He sent money to TBJ before he sent money to his family, when we freed up some extra money to be able to give, which shocked me given the state his family lives in, which he is well aware of.

        I have been keeping a record, as I’m able, of the things I recognize as out of order or downright blasphemous, should there ever come a time when he is willing to hear me about this. I cannot understand why he has not come across the one particular blasphemy about TBJ sitting at the right hand of God with Jesus. I have been trying to download it in case it gets pulled, but it seems to be blocked from downloading.
        Unfortunately someone we both trusted as solid and discerning was bamboozled into visiting SCOAN and giving a 47 second “testimony” of how wonderful it is. Satan *is* working over time. I am disappointed and discouraged. I really do not want to have to listen to TBJ and his followers screaming for the next 20 years. :(

      • Temitope Balogun Joshua, the Nigerian false prophet, fornicator, manipulator and fabricator, sitting at the right hand of God with Jesus ? Na wa oooooooooooooooo! I never heard about this outrageous blasphemy, but if anyone knows where and when it was recorded, I’d like to know !
        My dear sister M, I understand how you feel and I suggest you keep biting your tongue, and not push your husband into the lion’s den. Take authority in the name of Jesus and break the delusion over your husband’s mind. Pray for illumination upon his mind.Be gentle and loving and don’t lose your composure. Your husband needs you at this critical moment and don’t allow him to fall to this petty Nigerian criminal, called TB Joshua.

      • Thank you for the video, but this is no divine revelation at all. Remember TBJ hires people to give fake testimonies like this one, because he is a fabricator and a manipulator. ” But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than we have preached to you, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8.

      • If your husband did send money to SCOAN, then sorry to tell you that he is dealing with fraudsters. SCOAN never ask you to send money.

  7. Yes, and another excuse that was used to explain the HIV positive state after prayer, was that the persons fell back into the sin of adultery and fornication again.
    Where, I ask you, were the homosexuals?
    The actual cause of HIV?

  8. I am a Zambian who lost a neighbour and friend to HIV/AIDS a few years ago. What happened was that his wife went to Nigeria to seek healing on behalf of her husband from TBJ. Once there, she was told that her husband was cured and he could do away with what ever medication he was on. She returned back home and delivered the “good news” to her husband and he discontinued his medication. He even refused to see his doctor who went to see him at home just for a visit. A few months later he become so ill and nothing much could be done for him because his CD4 count was as low as 6. He succumbed to his illnes shortly afterwards.

    Isn’t this murder by the “man of God”? Please lets pray to our God that medication given by doctors works for patients rather than cheat people that they have been healed by a human hand. For isn’t the wisdom given to doctors from God?

    The story I have told above is well known in the town of Mufulira, Zambia

    • tusker, yes, I would call this a serious negligent of proper skriptual information. Its the play of a gambler, not of a faith-God-man.

      • These sort of stories are not uncommon.
        I personally know someone who had been trying to get to SCOAN for years.
        When the oppurtunity arose she went.
        Reason fo her going was because she was HIV positive.
        She went beliving that as long as she will be touched by TBJ( as if he is Jesus) she would be healed.
        Now she got back only for her wanting to go back a year later. Because according to her she had not been given enough attention by TBJ.
        Her condition had become worse.
        Who knows she probably stopped taking her medication.
        When some HIV/Aids pateints arrive at SCOAN for prayerline registration they are told to go for another HIV test in Lagos or they are not prayed for.most of the hospital around refuse to do HIV tests once they find out if the test is for SCOAN????? Those of you who were at SCOAN why would that be the case.I have my own theory why, but I want to hear about it from ex scoan members.
        It’s actually very sad and devilsh to make someone belive that they are instatnly healed of HIV/AIDS when in actual fact they are not.
        In the mid 90’s in Malawi there was someone who claimed to have had discovered a cure for HiV aids, the drink was called mchape.people went to Malawi from all over Africa, ministers, rich, poor the young the old.
        The stampede for this drink was so bad that the house of the maker of the drink feel.
        You can imagine how people were behaving.
        Alot of people died, because it made people feel good for a while.
        It was killing the proteins outside cells but not getting to the middle of the cell where the HIV virus stays.

  9. Jesus has given all the true believers authority over principalities and power. He is healing diseases more than HIV because of the name Jesus. Please give your life to Christ for him to use you so that you can also experience God power in your life.

    • wilfred, I have seen deeply true believers died on diseases all over the world. 95% of the sick do not become healed in the churches, prayer-meetings, campaigns and laying hands by the man of God. I do believe Jezus is still doing wonders today. 97% of the christians complain that there has never been any wonder in their lives. They see them some-how only in a vew others. Its not in the willingness of Jezus Christ to heal. “MY people perisch by a lack of knowledge”. And who are called to give this right foundated knowledge, before healing can take place? And who are called to give right foundated information when healing does not takes place? Yes; God-men, pastors and priests. .

      • @Jamie, I can see that you are not a believer but just a religious being. That will never earn you salvation. Your quoting statistics means Jesus does not heal ” Its not in the willingness of Jezus Christ to heal”cant you see how contracditory you have been. The bible says this signs shall follow them who belief in my name they shall cast out demons and heal the sick… in another passage he says greater works shall they do, i.e. those that belief. So if you are not seeing miracles, signs and wonders in your life, it is time to re examine yourself. Repent and re-dedicate yourself to God, maybe you can be forgiven and given a fresh start with HIM

  10. Advice to tbjoshuawatch : i don’t expect you to stop written articles but ask yourself this question. not really to day anytime u are less busy or alone.

    1.Take time to study your life and see if this is curse or blessing.

    2. Ask your self if this site have relay have any negative effect on SCOAN?

    3. Do you people think that the wise will take you people serious except fools?

    4. how have your sponsors and supporters impacted on this world compare to the Great prophet of our time Tb Joshua?

    5. Are you perfect than looking for those who do wrong to condemn?

    6. many disciples and ex-disciples are been delivered in SCOAN as at this period ask your self if you need to be delivered too?

  11. It pains my heart and makes me sick to my stomach to look at the people we love, those over worked, used and abused disciples of the fake Nigerian “prophet” T.B. Joshua.

    No love, no sleep, no trust, no friends, no proper food, no contact with their families, no contact with the outside world, living on one bed, out of one suitcase, in a commune or is it a harem, no privacy, no pay, no pensions, no future, no medical help, no private telephone calls allowed, no nothing, for years and years.

    Wasting their time on his fake promises to them!

    Running like cockroaches on a hot plate for every whim of their “master” tbj. Day and night. Around the clock.

    Being deceived in thinking they are serving the Lord Jesus Christ.
    Expected to lie for the sake of tbj and his Babylonian ministry.

    Spending theit lives thinking that everyone gets delivered and healed.

    We will NOT stop calling out to God for ALL his disciple’s deliverances.

    Let God’s people go tbj, I repeat let them GO!

    Remember – God, the Father of our Lord Jesus, sees what you are busy with behind the scene.

    You will get your day, my boy. You will get your day.

    Remember what you do to others, will came back to you!

    God is not mocked.

    • ALL,
      Surely, God is not mocked and we shall all reap what we sow. And we know that T B J has sown a lot of atrocities and his judgment has come. The Synagogue of Satan, called SCOAN, shall crumble, in a moment and the whole world shall see TBJ for the crook that he is. He would not have anywhere to hide. I encourage you to continue in your warfare until deliverance comes to the Lord’s people. It is just a matter of time, and I know it will happen because God does not lie. He has already declared the end from the beginning and it shall come to pass. Just wait and see the destruction of Babylon, it will surely come to pass, unless the Lord has not spoken !

    • Yes,they used my name, but that is not me. I refused to comment because it is all fabrications of TBJ. The man TBJ has no shame and fabricates anything and everything, including healing, deliverance, testimonies and what have you. This is a typical scam letter from Nigerian scammers which goes all over the world and TBJ imagines he can destroy the testimony of MrTerrific but he deceives himself. MrTerrific is untouchable and stings TBJ like a bee, and will continue to expose Temitope Balogun Joshua, that poor illiterate from the village of Arigidi, in Ondo State of Nigeria, who is deceiving multitudes due to their ignorance. TBJ is no match at all for MrTerrific and he knows it. He knows MrTerrific has the clean Spirit of God, and he has nothing of his demonic spirit in me. He cannot touch MrTerrific, because MrT is from above and TBJ is from below. MrT speaks the truth, but TBJ is a liar, a deceiver, a fornicator, adulterer, a false prophet and an illiterate who can’t speak good English, nor knows the Word of God, but twists Scriptures and teaches doctrines of demons. MrT can deliver TBJ from his demons but TBJ has nothing in MrT to deliver him from. Jesus said, ” The Prince of this world comes, but has nothing in Me,” and so is MrT. John 14:30. MrT has challenged TBJ to a debate in biblical doctrines, and has also offered to deliver TBJ, so tell your master to accept the challenge and MrT will expose and disgrace TBJ before the whole world. Tell your master that the day of reckoning has already come upon his head, and he must make a clean public confession of his lies, manipulations,deceit, treacheries, adulteries, fornications, false miracles and deliverances so he could receive mercy from my Lord Jesus, who is the Judge of all flesh. Ask your master why he practices Chinese chigon, and deceives people that it is the work of the Holy Spirit ? Ask him why he doesn’t want to go back to school to learn the Bible, instead of teaching people doctrines of demons and misleading them ? Yes, Candleholder, if you’re a real man, go ask your master these questions and get back with me on this blog.

      • @ Mr Terrific,

        Sounds good to me Mr. T., I am with you.

        Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you? Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 2 Corinthians 3:1-6 ;-)

        About Candle Holder being a real man ? The jury is out there. Let’s not hold our breath for it. He really likes to huff and puff and sound weighty. While we that see him look narrowly upon him. Isaiah 14:16

        I hope he will understand the words which Paul wrote and apply and judge it to himself by his own standards as the word is applying concerning his replies.

        And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you. Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. 1 Corinthians 9:23-27

  12. @ Wise man chews,

    6. How come they were not delivered 10-12 or more years ago when joining SCOAN. How can any demon or devil not manifest in the Presence of the Holy Spirit and keep quiet for a decade or more hidden in a church that claims they do deliverance everyday and those disciples were never delivered in the first place. Whenever Jesus came close to a demon they manifested if SCOAN claims it is the Holy Spirit that operates there. Clearly now this is NOT the Holy Spirit that operates there. And clearly these are man made and fake deliverances of imaginary demons.

      • This is very weird stuff!
        It’s not connected to the power of God, he kicks in the air and a person gets delivered !What’s so appaling about it’s is that people are cheering.
        The devil is working over time.
        The hand movements we have all seen before on Emmanuel.i got the willies just by seeing that.I could not bare to watch the rest of it,it just made me feel uncomfy

      • The Devil is really working overtime because he has so many people to deceive. Most people have no discernment, nor do they know the Word of God and are blown away by every manifestation and every wind of doctrine. Lord, deliver Your people from this end-time deceptions !

      • Hey Jamie,

        I watched the video. Thanks. And yes that is exactly the same thing, Remote control.

        Ask your self two, three things here,

        1. How can you say ” Let me now go and demonstrate the power of God” Does it work like that ? Switch on, Switch off ?

        2. What was the benefit for each of them being jerked to the ground as if they were “pulled” with a rope ? What were the fruits short and long term ? Do we read ministrations like that in the Bible ? What makes slain or falling in the spirit justified while there is no record in the bible about it ? Except 2 times, when the priest could not get in the temple that Solomon built and when Jesus said Who are you looking for and they fell backwards. No other cases are recorded of slammed, jerked in the spirit or being remote controlled by pulling and pushing hand movements. To me this is strange fire. Not what the Holy Spirit would do.

        3. He allowed another pastor to call him father in the Lord. What did Jesus say about that ? And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. Matthew 23:9-11

  13. @ Wise men chews,

    5. The bible says:

    Matthew 5:48
    Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    You have a problem with that ? Why can we not demand that they are perfect, if God want you to be so ?

  14. Hi I am gladly. agree to open socan door for medical exthm before prayer line and after prayer heling take place even I don’t have dawte it is genun work of lord Jesus for the dawte of ather maybe to save dawters good to go extra mile rember god is biger than since you cannot exam in laboratory Faith have pawor than nicquler & hydrogen

      • Bele mekuta,

        The more you will write here the more you will feed them. Look how many positive comment where writen here. Apart from that they choose to walk in accusations acts.

        Perverse wranglings of men of corrupt minds KJB (1Tymothy 6:5)

        Look after my comment they will bite me “ad personam” because this is only one thing they can.

      • @ Candle Holder,

        @ Candle Holder,

        I prayed for you and blessed you that God gave or gives you all you wanted or desire and above His love and compassion.

        You on the other hand, did sent me word curses, with the hope in your heart something bad would happen. You use the word of God for destruction of someone who loves The Lord, who has his live given to God for a long time, who preaches the Word, who also prays for the sick and who supports charity for the lost and homeless.

        I am not here to boast about anything, but it shows your dark, disturbed, twisted heart defending a man or other men and women where a lot of questions are about as well from the leadership, disciples and ex-disciples.

        When you are addressed about it, you complain that it is argumentum ad personam.

        How do you want to be addressed otherwise if that is what you do yourself.

        Do you condone and approve false and fake deliverances ? Do you condone and approve lies ? Do you condone and approve deception ? Do you condone and approve human worship. Do you condone and approve they call themselves apostles, while some of them not even have planted a church from scrap and have their own following as well church structure ? All these are proven for all to see that those who are involved believe the lie. As well in the light of Gods Word, II Thessalonians 2. Revelation 2:2 Do you agree or are you knowingly and willingly part of their lies and malpractices? Know also then that we judge you then as well God will Judge you before His Righteous Throne at Judgment Day for participating in lies and condoning malpractices. 1 Corinthians 6:2-4 !!!!

        Answer the questions and stop diverting with your own agenda on the same trite topic that goes nowhere.

      • @ Candle Holder,

        Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 1 Corinthians 15:50

        You are saying here that we or I am corrupt in my mind. Have you found me saying anything what is corrupt ?
        You recently implied to me that I was lying about something that was written in the word. While it was you who interpreted it otherwise and twisted my reply and totally misrepresented me in it.

        If I made a small mistake where I should have written Acts 19:1-6 concerning the matter, then where did I corrupt anything ? Where was my mind corrupted ?

        Besides that, the above scripture says that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. So then if there are fake deliverances, lies, false testimonies, etc etc. On the ground and foundation of the Word in II Thessalonians 2 and I judge this according to 1 Corinthians 6:2-6 because I see myself as the least respected in the church, you complain that I am judging unlawfully of what is happening in the church ? Correct ? Yet the Word is saying that I must do this. What is your problem ?

        So than if in Revelation it is said that they call themselves apostles and they are not, can I qualify and establish this with witnesses that this is a lie in the light of God’s word ? And that it trespasses Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. and Deuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.

        Am I correct in the light of God’s word that: Proverbs 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.

        Then later in Revelation it is said Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

        and in Proverbs 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape. Am I correct that I can judge on that ground of what the Word of God says ?

        What does it say in the end what God will do about that ?

        Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

        Am I correct then when I say that I have judged those that do so that they are lying and is my judgment then correct according to the word of God ?

        Give me an answer and stop twirling around and you know these are lies conciously and unconciously and you condone and approve of them to be done without righteous judgment by those that have uncovered them with reasonable force and means.

        Come forth and repent, receive forgiveness and give your life to the Shepherd of your soul, Jesus Christ the ONe and only Saviour for Whom every knee must bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and stop defending men that are in error and promote lies.

  15. To TB Joshua,
    I pray that you read this.

    The Bible says:
    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever – Hebrew 13:8
    … for I the Lord your God am a jealous God visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me – Ex 20:5

    Remember your children that survived abortions.

    What you do to others, might just catch up with your children and childrens children one day.

  16. @ Jesse,
    I’m not here to commend myself or anything of the sort. I want to get a message to the false prophet TBJ and all those who are deluded by his lies, deceit and treacheries, and in particular to Candleholder, for not being able to see the fabrications of his master, TBJ. See, these scam letters originate from Nigeria and I personally receive lots of them, from both men and women and just delete them, and for Candleholder to think MrT has anything to do with them shows how deluded he is. He is not yet able to grasp the fact that TBJ would do anything to ” project ” his name, even if he has to lie, fabricate, and manipulate testimonies, confessions, miracles or whatever, and he does not even understand that TBJ is the owner and dictator behind that worthless blog called watchingtbjoshua. Candleholder, I’m still waiting for our response from your master.

    • @ Mr Terrific,

      I apologise that if it came over that this was directed at you, which it was not. I understood where you came from. No worries, ok.

      I was merely focussing that our sufficiency is out of God no less, which means it is Him Who makes us able ministers to minister unto men and to distinguish what is out of God and what not by the Holy Spirit.

      This was rather to show Candle Schtick his everlasting chew toy of his “accusation syndrome” on where he nearly has “Brock off” his teeth without him realising and understanding what really goes on under the SCOAN veneer. I just pray that the scales will fall off Candle Holders eyes one day.

  17. among all those who were organised to visit SCOAN from U K in the previous years NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN CURED OF HIV : I am a living testimony, my wife is a living testimony, people in Birmingham and other area of the UK are testimonies. People have gone for repeated tests over months and years but were still positive. In some cases when the HIV positive persons went for tests after the so called healing from SCOAN, the testing machines developed faults – they were then requested to repeat the tests three or four time, but the turned out positive. . What is now happening is this: SCOAN London has stopped organising trips from UK to SCOAN Lagos because of the shame and the inconsistencies in their activities. This comment is not a joke. LET SCOAN tell the truth and ashame the devil !

    • TBJ is a liar and a deceiver, a manipulator and a fabricator and people should not be afraid to speak against these false prophets and expose them. They are not men of God, but men of Satan deceiving and fleecing the Lord’s people of their money. God has not called them nor sent them, yet they prophesy and deceive the people, making all kinds of false claims. TBJ has never healed anyone of AIDS and it is time people recognize him for the liar that he is..TBJ, this your mago mago, wuru wuru and jigbiti has come to an end !

  18. The deception is still taking place in SCOAN (London branch) where the leaders operating from the UnIversity of West London premses in Brentford London spray water on people suffering from HIV every last sunday of the month claiming that they will be healed and capitalising on migrants and asylum seekers from Africa and other parts of the world claiming that it will take some time befor one turns negative- that once that wter is spayed on one, he or she is spiritually cure of HIV since HIV is spiritual and that the person will turn positive in god’s time.

  19. Jesse,

    Unto the pure all things are pure (Titus 1:15)

    Pure is their language, pure is their character, pure is their mind.

    Think about your language constantly speaking evil and bad about people? Think about your Christless Christian character acts that is able constantly to accuse and condemn “ad personam”? Think about it. Unto the pure all things are pure……………………………..

    This is my last comment. I will not feed this blog anymore.

    The far from this blog I am the better.

    I do not want to be among you anymore. Have a good time splashing around in the accusation pudle all the time…..

    • Candleholder, please don’t run away, answer my questions before you run to join Visser, Vasilis, Doe, Soe, Ben and all the rest of them. It is a shame that none of you is able to defend your master TBJ.

      • Another TBJ’s mighty defenders has fallen, brutally wounded on the battlefield, and now goes into hiding to recuperate like all the others before him. Any more challengers, TBJ ? Bring on your mighty warriors and “wise men” and we would cut them to pieces with the sword of the Spirit !

    • @ Candle Holder,

      Come back here, !!!!! and answer my questions and stop twirling around in what is impure what you think and make pure in your mind.

      I want answers from you on what I asked. You are running away because you have none. I gave you the Word of God next to it. It’s your turn to show it is not true and you walking away proves it is true. Don’t be a coward and run with your tail between your legs. Answer the questions. That is all what I want to know.

      Remember: James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

      When you run away is because I know you don’t want to answer or cannot answer it because your consciousness is speaking now that I am right.

    • @ Candle Holder,

      You call me evil right.

      Here is the explanation of evil.

      Evil

      Noun

      1. Morally objectionable behavior.
      2. That which causes harm, destruction or misfortune.
      3. The quality of being morally wrong in principle or practice.

      Adjective

      4. Morally bad or wrong.
      5. Having the nature of vice..
      6. Having or excerting a malignant influence.

      Where am I morally wrong, causing harm, misfortune, in principle or practice, having a nature of vice, exerting a malignant influence ?

      Candle Holder you have no clue what real evil is clearly.

      You call me Christless, hmm I see, so Who is my Master then ? I know Who He is, but you don’t want to see Him in me when I uncover, expose, reveal with the power of the Word of God where it lacks in the SCOAN and that it is them they need to repent from their acts of lying, false testimony, fake deliverances, claiming they are apostles, For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

      How is it in their church structure as it is written in the bible ?

      Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way. 1 Corinthians 12:27-31

      If they claim they do all that, why is nobody speaking in tongues and have interpreters in it and why are they not two three prophets that prophecy and check the other prophet of what he/she says is of God ? Where are the teachers ? The shepherds ? Why is it that only few have the so called “gifts” (remote control) if it is the perfect church as they claim and do and say this is the New Jerusalem, “everyone” goes there because of it ? Where is that church structure ? Where are the elders who should correct anything theological and hermeneutical in error ? Does God operate only in a one man band riot ? Not even Jesus, Paul, Peter, John did like that. Not even the early Church fathers.

      Oh well. I guess it feels great to pat yourself on the back all the time is it not ?

    • Thanks for that link J Karman, it’s encouraging to see this very important issue being dealt with in the African press. If you don’t mind, could you please send an email to tbjoshuawatch@hotmail.co.uk? We’d like to ask you a few things, we’ll keep your identity strictly to ourselves.

    • J. karmen

      You are a very good testimony.
      Some of these so called modernise new Churches that are springing up like grass all over, with people with titles such as Prophet, major prophet etc. Are only out to deceive people with their cheap gospel on such as a happy person is one one that is very rich and illness free.
      Contary to watch Jesus teaches us in the Bible, for one to have true happiness seek the kingdom of God.
      These churches are sending people to hell, by they gospel they preach.
      They are encourgaing people to chase money and other riches.
      When these people do, the thing to do is to give the prophet a token of their appreciation, like a car money.
      In their minds they think that they have been blessed by the prophet well in real sense it had nothing to do with them.
      They only thing they want is money, easy money.
      They capitalise on peoples desparation ond vulnerability.
      Those who are ill, would do anything just to feel well again.This is devilish! They don’t even have a concious.
      Cause their goal is easy money, they learn a few verses and people are in awe.
      No on can know all the verses in the Bible a human impposibilty!! .There is a very big problem in Zambia most of the population is HIV positive and there are loads of these kind of churches all over.
      I am sure some people who get told that they are cured stop being carefull beliving that they are virus free and new cases emerge.
      Nigeria has a huge population,many families with more than one wife, also loads of Pentecosatal churches, preaching this fake gospel.
      But yet the HiV/ AIDS rate is so low.
      I think the answer is easy to figure out!

  20. I trully believe in what is happening at Scoan,i’m not shaken of the critics that people are claiming about Prophet TB Joshua.He is a true Man of God and i love his Ministry.

  21. Whether you believe what is happening at Scoan or not I do and i’m a follower of Prophet TB Joshua,i watch Emmanuel TV everyday.I believe that people are being healed 100 percent. You are a dakness you dont know what you are talkinf about.Jesus is there at Scoan.

    • The devil is at Scoan as well!!!
      Tv shows us what the people behind the tb station want us to see.
      Never ever will you see someone standing on Emmanuel TV, saying that I was
      not healed.
      They would lose market, people would not sell property just to get to Nigeria.
      They would never allow anyone to stand infornt of the congregation and narrate how rudley they were treated by the ushers. wake up dude.Question how did you find your self on this site commenting anyway?

    • @ Maumela,
      Instead of watching Emmanuel TV everyday, why don’t you read your Bible everyday so you could know the Word of God ? God has given us His Word, not TV, and many of you come here saying you watch TV and that is why you don’t know the Word of God. I see that you don’t even know anything, so start reading and studying your Bible instead of watching TV. TBJ is a fabricator and manipulator and all that you watch on his TV are fabricated to deceive people like you.

  22. Amen Mr. Terrific –

    – let them start studying their Bibles, the Word of God.

    What you hear over and over again on Emman TV, is the demons speaking.

    That is the word that is going out.

    Demon talk and when it is time for the Bible teaching on a Sunday, tbj will come out late and then give the excuse; “Because of time he must stop the meeting and attend to the sick and demon possessed.”

    So that the Bible teachings will be cut short, for the demon talk.

    And the words of the demons are believed as if it is the gospel truth.

    The demons are, having the floor, telling the “prophets” what happened in the person’s life?

    Where is the Word from God, through the prophets, telling the people what happened in their lives?

    Everything is twisted again!

  23. What you are saying about TB Joshua and Scoan is rubbish, just that you are ignorant of what is happening around the world. I have never been to Scoan, I am a South African, but I received my healing from Hiv after I had been prayed for by a minister not popular like TB Joshua. I went back to an Hiv testing centre they were surprised by the results, however my healing was not on the news. For your information they are thousands of people who have been healed of Hiv to date and your experts know about them. The reason they do’nt publish those news is that they are used by the devil, the same he uses you, they think they are greater than Our God Jehova. They think what is impossible for them is also impossible for God. So keep your ignorance to yourself and let the people of God receive their healing in Jesus name. Remember this, a Christian is not a product of science and technology, where the former fails God comes in with His unfailing powers.

    • We’re really pleased you’ve received your healing Edwin. You say it was not on the news, but do you not realise how newsworthy it is? The case of the girl talked about in the article above was reported worldwide for the same experience you claim to have had. We have never said that God can’t heal HIV, just that there are no proven cases of it. I’m quite sure there are some genuine cases, maybe yours is one – but claiming there are thousands of people being healed of HIV but going totally unnoticed seems very unlikely. Why aren’t these testing centres reporting it?

      • @ TBJoshuawatch,

        + 1

        @ Edwin,

        I am convinced that God heals and that He can do it or not do it. I know this in other people and my own life. But I know also for sure that things are made up and are not true in SCOAN and that is the point here. What I am falling foul over is “deliverances” that take place 10-12 years after joining a notorious known ministry who’s leaders and disciples that claim they do deliverance on a daily basis and have been personally under TB Joshua power display or by using “anointed water” were possessed themselves with ancient demons from india, spirits of their granddad, pornographic spirits, fear spirits, anger spirits, queen spirits, demons from the planet Mercury with a base there and you name it.

        There is no way in heaven or hell that you can go out deliver other people if you are possessed yourself, not even with “anointed water. What you can do is shuffling, moving and infiltrating with help of demons, familiar spirits and astral project your spirit in people who open themselves up for it. This is riding the demons inside of you by allowing this or opening yourself up to it. In Voodoo they do this, in Shamanism, in Satanism and in Witchcraft.

  24. scoan definately have their proofs. and you guys are also trying to prove sth; that no one have ever been healed at Scoan. now, what am making clear to you is, your proofs aren’t even up to an atom of Scoan’s. if any professional want to know about the healings let him or her do so with a genuine reason. besides no one stops you from making these researches yourselves. go to scoan and find out for yourselves.
    and i certainly do not know of anyone who died of hiv after being healed at scoan. just a lady who was healed and lived for many years before dying. buy she didn’t die of hiv. coz we had her tested.
    i do not also believe any parthner is infected
    if they are, they should be the first to quit.
    in summary, what scoan claims are Real and not fake.

    @ jessy. i would really love to hear those questions of yours you claim wasn’t answered because you were right.
    to answer your question, i do not believe there are fake deliverances happening at Scoan. if you strongly believe they are, then get one of the delivered to support your motion and stop these insinuations that aren’t well proven.

    my answer on why are the leaders are not delivered from their demons before now is; God does as HE wills. for the fact that they are now being delivered justifies them. it doesn’t matter how far but how well. thank God they are delivered and it’s none of your business!

    • @ Doi,

      It is of my business. It is my business to expose and to reveal with God’s help and His Might. Very much so. Because when these are just blatant lies, then it is fake. F.A.K.E. “God does as He wills, you say ?” This is one of the most shambolic nasty claims ever made by you. You even have the nerve and without shame to say so !!!!!?????

      I don’t see how you are not understanding or even comprehending that you can’t show me any shred of evidence that someone can do this while the so called “anointing water” does not make any manifestations in those that spray it wildly around in the churches they visited and nothing happened to them. I am talking about those leaders and disciples.

      What it DOES prove there is that the “anointing water” is a false imaginary tool that actually does not work at all. What also is clear to me that it is one of the most shambolic fake things ever I have seen in my life. I am telling you right now, you cannot convince me in any way or form that when drops and spray falls on the initiator of this that they will not be affected or manifest. If it “affected” on those that were sprayed, then it affects it those that sprays it on. This was done in several meetings internally. (Funny still not delivered after that, they must go to Lagos for that.) You all constantly claim this. Now it does not work all of a sudden but as you see fit and fob me off with “God does what He wills ?” You got me red hot fuming about that, I am telling you.

      The “deliverances” you are referring to are complete fake, created, misleading, false, evil lies, and complete utter nonsenses in those leaders and disciples. As God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is my Witness, I call Them as the Chief Witnesses right now of those fabricated lies they did as I have witnessed by myself. According to this scripture they have lied to God Almighty and me and others who have seen it. 2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. Convicts them to the core of their being that Scripture.

      How dare you to lie to the Most High God about these fabrications and that you approve and support. They have not been delivered, there was nothing at all, they have made up these fake deliverances and I know 100% that is it not true. I have evidence of their lies which I have witnessed personally and with others. How dare you Doi to keep up appearances and support and approve about this !!!!! I have no idea how long this is going to continue, but I pray that God will expose this sham of “deliverances” that never took place then in their imaginary heads and devilish plan to deceive and mislead. Ever. They are complete lies from the lowest level and pit of hell ever that exists.

      Everything that was created there was for to attract more people to the church in them thinking they all needed deliverance. A cheap disgusting abominable trick to deceive and to mislead innocent and ignorant people to ride them with a Satanic demonic spirits to infiltrate in their bodies and rape them. I cannot believe that you keep appearing here knowingly consciously and unconsciously seared with a hot iron consciousness and knowing that you are a bunch of liars and fakes concerning such diabolical statements !!!!! I pray God that He will justify me in what I am saying. In Jesus Christ’s Mighty Name above every Name I pray.

      • We need to pray for Doi, because he is under the dictatorship of TBJ, and cannot do otherwise. The only time he can have the freedom to speak his mind is when he comes out of the totalitarian authority of TBJ and gets his sanity and freedom back, but for now he and all the others like him have to sing their master’s voice, be it right or wrong. You see, TBJ uses these poor people as pawns to achieve his satanic and diabolic purposes. May the Lord have mercy on all those serving under this false prophet, TBJ, and set His people free. Now that Candleholder has been battered, Doi has to replace him until he is bruised again then he goes into hiding and then another TBJ’s messengers come in. It is a cycle that TBJ has adopted to prop up his tattered and battered image.

      • My friend, you would know the truth and the truth shall set you free, when you begin to study and know your Bible. John 8:32

      • @ Joshua,

        You call this lies ? How about this on a video I watched. One woman that claimed to be abducted to be used in France for prostitution.

        She claimed that 40-50 men a day came to have sex with her.

        Ok here is the question, let’s say 50 came to her. That is 1 man every half an hour, but that is without sleep, without going to eat, without going to toilet, without washing yourself or have shower.

        So we take off 4-5 hours for sleep, half an hour for eating and drinking, half an hour washing yourself and cleaning up, etc etc. so let’s say 6 hours come off from that. That leaves 18 hours for 50 men to have sex with her. That’s roughly said 15 to 18 minutes. That is only if they would stand in a queue undressed. So no shoes were taken off, no clothes, no redress, no time for walking in or out, no talk, no payment, etc. etc. this than day in day out…..

        And you are accepting this is true of what she said ? Joshua, are you telling me these are no lies ?

      • Tb Joshua loves it , to bring Europe in dis-credit, by ugly stories. He believes Europe is Sodom and Gomorra. And it will take the attention off the corruptions and immorality of Nigeria. He likes stories of africans being mis-treated in Europe. I guess it calms his consious., about his bad treatments to European disciples.

      • Mr Detergent,
        Doi is here to defend his master, albeit, against his will. You see, TBJ likes to use people who are entirely dependent on him, and unless you can be independent and challenge him, there is no way you can survive in his satanic ministry called SCOAN. On the other hand, there are people who would sell their soul and conscience to TBJ, so they could get position or “power.” Such is the case with Kayode, a former devotee, who is now founder and leader of Awakener’s Chapel in Ghana. While I was with them, Kayode was the Chief Reporter of Lies to TBJ, and assistant fabricator next to TBJ. No wonder he was made head of SCOAN in Ghana, only to reveal his true colours when he turned against his master after TBJ slept with his wife and got her pregnant. I don’t know Doe’s position or aspirations, but I think he wants to serve TBJ until he gets what he wants or ” used and dumped.”

  25. @ Edwin,
    The name of our God is JEHOVAH RAPHA, the Lord our healer, the Lord who heals all our diseases. There is no sickness He cannot heal. However, it is an entirely different matter when a false prophet claims people are being healed when they are not. They take the name of the Lord in vain, they deceive people, giving them false hopes, while robbing them of their money in the name of the Lord, and they must be exposed for their deception and lies.

  26. Ya, Mr. Terrific and tbj is operating as a python snake.

    He is not just robbing, but squashing the disciples’ lives, futures, money, families, education, health, their faith in Jesus etc. etc. out of them until there is nothing left and then he gets rid of them, like a used up pen that he throws in the dust bin.

    He actually teaches them that Jesus is like that too.

    His different gospel.

    Usually the excuse to get rid of them is; “I want you to bring groups” and make you feel wonderful, but oh wei, that is the end. You will never get hold of them afterwards, but everyone of his followers thinks, how great he is, because he asked you to bring groups.

    Holy man of god?!?!

    No, clever, deceitful, trickster?!?!

    By the way, about everyone in my country has also stopped taking groups to scoan, because of the discrepancies going on there.

    • Yes, TBJ used you people to bring in groups to SCOAN, using your own influence with these groups, then he pounces on them and drops you like hot potato. This is what one of his former devotees, Sam, called ” using and dumping.” It is a true assessment of the way TBJ uses and dumps people who are even more intelligent than himself, but who let their guards down because they imagine they’re dealing with a ” holy man of God.” Now you see why I regard TBJ as the criminal that he is ? He is no man of God at all, but a false prophet, who uses divination(python spirit) and chigon but his days are definitely numbered and the handwriting is already on the wall !

    • Oh my goodness, you mentioned him as working under the influence of python/snake. That was my *VERY FIRST* impression of the man, when my husband started watching. I have always thought of him as “a snake”. At first just in the American English sense of someone who is sneaky and decieving. But more and more I am connecting it to the same spirit that affected the demoniac that Paul and Silas were used by God to deliver. She too could “prophesy” and she too used religious language, even calling them out as servants of the Most High God.

      Amazingly, our pastor was speaking on healing and demon possession and mentioned that girl, and the fact that many churches today would elevate her to “prophetess” because they have no discernment.

      I am glad I am not alone in seeing the man as a snake.

      • Your pastor is very right, many such people occupy high positions in the churches and society but they are just diviners and sorcerers, parading as men and women of God, because the people have no discernment. Those of us who have discerned the demonic spirits in TBJ are ready to cast them out of him, but the man is too proud to allow anyone to cast out his demons.

  27. Amen, Mr. Terrific, let us pray and call out for mercy and grace from our loving Lord Jesus Christ, this Passover season of deliverance – to save, heal and deliver those still in that Python’s snake (TB Joshua’s) stomach.

    They cannot see where they are and are just eating the scrap he feeds them and they are the Lord’s beloved children.

    Let us remind God of what Jesus did on the cross of Calvary.
    Let us remind God of the shed blood of Jesus for the redemption of souls from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light of His beloved Son Jesus Christ.

    Have mercy on your people Lord and save them from slavery to Farao and his kingdom of slavery in this your season!

    • @ Emmanuel E.

      Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz , snore, snore, zzzzzzzzzz, boring, trite, yawn, cough, clears throat, etc. etc.

    • @ Emmanuel E,
      There is nothing like a messiah, but there is only one Messiah and His name is Jesus. TBJ is a false christ, or false messiah, and just one of the many false christs Jesus warned us about.

    • Hmmm….messiah, performance. That about sums him up. A false-Christ who creates a circus for his own self-promotion and benefit

  28. Remember –

    True and False Prophets

    15 “Watch out for false prophets”, Jesus said. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

    21 “Not everyone that says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
    22 Many will say to me on that day,

    ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and

    in your name drive out demons and

    in your name perform many miracles?’

    23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers-lawbreakers!’ – Matthew 7

  29. Paul and the False Apostles:

    “I hope you will put up with me in a little foolishness , Paul said. Yes, please put up with me! 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
    But such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve. – 2 Corinthians 11.

  30. @ All,

    Hmm, I guess TB Joshua’s henchmen are pooped out ? They all ran away with their tail between their legs. Perhaps finally convicted by the Holy Spirit from their lies and cheating deliverances, fake testimonies and other made up stories.

    • I guess so, too ! They are beginning to see the light or simply because they don’t have answers to the pertinent questions we have raised here. Doi and Candleholder, like the others before them, are in a tight corner right now. They have been trying desperately to defend their master, but it doesn’t get easier for them, but more difficult, because no one can challenge the Word of God, which has been given to us to refute every lie and deceit of Satan and his henchmen like TBJ. Perhaps, it is time for TBJ to come and defend himself and stop hiding behind these poor souls who can’t help him, after all, this blog is dedicated to him. In any case, we would not rest until the mask has come off his face completely so the world could see him for the scammer that he is. Alternatively, TBJ could make a public confession of all his lies, deceit, fabrications, manipulations, fornications, adulteries and false doctrines and we would consider this assignment completed.

      • mr detergent. i clearly understand the reason for that advice. believe me i thought of getting out of here long before now. but others have to know the truth just as i’ve found the truth.

        at jesse and co. when will you guys ever come out with a genuine and concrete proof?. please stop all these mouth talk. lets have your witnesses. jesse i never knew you are very current with the live services and of all you watch on emmanuel tv. the only fault u could spot was a woman who said she slept with abt 40-50 men a day?. does that have anything to do with T.B Joshua? it’s her confession and she cannot lie. haven’t you heard of two minute sex? i don’t consider that as an issue. if thats the only fault you found in the whole service then i think you had better remain quiet. thought you never watch the services. now i know u do watch. plz keep watching emmenuel tv.

      • Secondly. @jesse and Terific. The number of people being touched and blessed through this channel are numerous. so please mind your business. if you feel like you want to preach to the people then open your ministy and teach Gods word and stop waisting effort and time talking about just one man.who is he to you?
        and plzz do not believe we are being convinced coz you haven’t given us any reason to be. i just don’t see it necessary to devote my entire time on this blog. i had rather use such time to build up my relationship with God more. i only write here for the benefit of neutral readers. and no one else. not even b’cos of T.b joshua coz no matter what you say about him, he remains who He is
        (a representator of God on earth)
        he’ll continue to grow higher. your criticism only make him more known by the world.

      • @ Doi,

        “it’s her confession and she cannot lie. haven’t you heard of two minute sex? ”

        Did you ask her yourself ? Did she reply that same story to you personally ? What a joke this all is. She is a liar. Period. No prostitute can do 50 men a day. Day in day out as she claims. Even if forced. Read above. Just get real. If you watch properly, you will see that TB Joshua shuts her up at a certain moment and that is for a reason, because even he knows as I know it was total nonsense she was gushing out. She still tries to tell her lying story by putting up a finger as if she is in schoolclass, but you can clearly see TB Joshua’s favourite line in action, “Because of time….etc. etc. ” and I know he is wriggling out of this one for that purpose.

        Doi, wriggle what you want, but stop approving and condoning lies. Fact.

        I have put up numerous examples you all deny at SCOAN which are proven facts for all to see. Now start to confess that what I am saying is true and stop living in fantasy land and in denial and for sure it is not a river in Egypt.

      • @ Doi,

        Yes you should spend more time with God, perhaps He will show you then what you are serving.

        There are also many things that go wrong which are swept under carpet. Start reading all the articles here.

        You are right it is about the notoriety of TB Joshua, not about lifting Jesus higher. Again by your own confession you are found guilty of human worship instead of God.

        What had John to say about that ?

        Have you read ? Doi

        John 3:30-31
        He must increase, but I must decrease. 31 He that cometh from above is above all:he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth:he that cometh from heaven is above all.

        Whe are you going to grasp it ? Someone told me, Doi ? Uummm Doi you said … Yeah Doi, haha Doi will never get it. Well there you go, Doi, Never. That makes already two of us.

        This is what it says about you and others.

        2 Corinthians 13:1-6
        Chapter 13
        1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. 2 I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare:3 Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you- ward is not weak, but is mighty in you. 4 For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.
        5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 6 But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates.

        Again you were tested in the Light of Gods Word and you were falling flat on your nose again.

  31. You knw what you ppl who insult the Man of God TB Joshua should be ashamed of ur self ga pho,u r discasting,if u r possesed with demons & dnt want help dnt stand in othet peoples way 2 find help

    • @ Gloria,

      If you think we are possessed, I challenge you to deliver me or anyone from TB Joshua watch. Gloria wherever you are. Prove me that distance is not a barrier as you all claim. Or anyone in SCOAN.

    • @ Weezy,

      Remember this about your language what Gods word says about your speech.

      Proverbs 15:4
      A wholesome tongue is a tree of life:
      but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

      1 Timothy 6:3-5
      If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness:from such withdraw thyself.

      Just saying.

      God bless you and make sure you wash out your unwholesome language from this screen you wrote, Weezy

  32. How can someone heal a person who is HIV positive when there is nothing to heal! HIV virus exists in all humans! They can not detect any hiv virus on any test! Because that so called virus has never been isolated! And HIV does not cause AIDS!

    http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com/

    • Fridrik, This website is to expose lies of T B Joshua and his supporters. Your comment is a reminder that there are many lies about many things that people think are true. I do not know what it would take for you to change your mind about your comment. Do you agree with those who would say the earth is flat? There are people living today who say that. If you do not agree with those who say the earth is flat, what would you say to them to try to change their mind? Believing the earth is flat may not affect a person’s life on earth, or their eternity, so its not very important. However, misinformation concerning medical issues affects people’s lives on earth. Misinformation about T B Joshua affects people’s lives on earth, and may affect their eternity.

  33. Let me recap everything again:

    Jesus said that miracles or a miracle worker is NOT PROOF that you are a man of God, or a Prophet of God or an Apostle of God – Mathew 7.

    And if you teach anything other than the TRUTH in the Bible you are, a false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ -2 Corinthians 11.

    Now, TB Joshua is doing all of these things in Mathew 7 and 2 Cor 11 – driving out demons, working miracle and prophesying, but the fruit of his life is rotten, he is a worker of iniquity. He is also teaching a different Gospel that also makes him a false apostle, a deceitful worker masquerading as an apostle of Christ.

    You, the reader of this, your blood will not be on my hands, one day when we stand before the Throne of God.
    You have been warned over and over again.

    Get out of that place, before God’s judgments that will fall on scoan and TB Joshua, falls on you too.

    Get out!

  34. Fredrik,

    I do not know where you fall out, but your statement; whether true or false, even proof the more how fake TB Joshua is.

    True-he is a fake,

    False- he is a fake.

  35. @ Constant Blessings,
    Your master TBJ has threatened some people on this blog, and those people are so afraid that they have stopped writing, but many of us are not afraid of him and we cannot be intimidated by his threats. Ask your master why he should threaten anyone, instead of refuting what we write here ? He has sent many messengers here to defend him, but so far none of them has been able to stand up to the Word of God. You have also shown that you cannot defend him, but want to attack people, asking for names and addresses. Well, your master knows me well, and knows my name, so let him give you my name then come and attack me. I am here in the USA and my address is 188 Martin Luther King Drive, Atlanta, Georgia, USA., 30303. And by the way, do you have a passport and a visa ? Let your master help you to come and get me, and when you arrive here, we shall see how you gonna help yourself and your master !

  36. @ Doi,
    Welcome back, and mind your language because your fake prophet is not a representative of God on earth, but of Satan. Why did he threaten some writers on this blog who are now so afraid to comment anymore ? Yes, we would continue to expose your master until he makes his public confession. And by the way, I’m still waiting for your answers to many issues and hope you don’t run away again. You people run to hide when the battle gets too hot for you, and I’m glad you’re back to continue where Candleholder left off.

    • @ Doi,

      Stop having a 7 minute memory recollection of a goldfish. Come to the point. Do you agree and admit there are fake deliverances, lies spoken, false doctrine, strange fire, staged confessions and more taking place in SCOAN to attract more people to the church ?

      Do you agree that also the leadership who worked for over 10-12 years are confessing to having “demons” they never had in the first place and that they never needed deliverance in the first place.

      I want you to confess that what I am saying is true and that you confess you will stop lying to me and to those of TB Joshua Watch and others. You know that these articles written here are true. You willingly deny and lie to us about it without your consciousness is convicting you that you do. I call God the Father, The Lord Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and the Hosts of Heaven witness about your deliberate lying and denial that it is all true. Do you comply, Doi ?

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  38. TB Joshua is a man of God ,and no one can discourage me from watching his channel,why cant you people leave everything to God rather tahn insulting the anointed man of God ,

  39. You people are just part of does chriticaizing the work of GOD but i have some thing to tell you, you will surely perish if you don’t give your life to christ and stop this sily chritised. TB. JOSHOUA Is a real man of GOD and their is nothing demonds like you can do about it because JESUS CHRIST is his lawyer and will fight his battle for him thank you

  40. JUSTICE LUCKY
    TB. JOSHOUA Is a real man of GOD and their is nothing demonds like you can do about it because because he is covered by Exodus 14:14. I luv him and i will always respect and trust him because i receive my healing from my house. Thank Prophet TB Joshua for your divine help for the world. Continue your good work because Jesus is always there for you. i will see you physical one day.

    justice lucky sending this message from Kano.

  41. lease somebody uplift my faith on this. my mother, 52 years old was dignosed hiv positive and TB this year, and immediately started on ARV on 07/02/11 coz her cd4 count was only 15. she is not a christian, but i am and she has agreed to go to pastor chris on the night of bliss. pray with me for her healingi have heard testimonies of so many people who heve been healed from this sickness, but who have not yet been atarted on ARV. obviously with with the ARV’s the virus becomes undetectable, how am i going to knowthat she is indeed healed?you can as well reach him in his email address now at:homeofsolveingproblems@gmail.com

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