Fake claims of healing HIV at SCOAN

This is what counts as "evidence" of HIV healing at SCOAN

This is what counts as “evidence” of HIV healing at SCOAN

In our last post, we made the bold claim that nobody has ever been healed of HIV at SCOAN or by TB Joshua. Since then, several cases have been brought to our attention where people proclaimed healed of HIV by TB Joshua, clearly weren’t.

One reader told us of 4 soldiers from Volta Barracks, Ghana who went to SCOAN and received their “healing” for HIV. Sadly all 4 remain HIV positive.

A HIV positive reader from the UK told us that of all the people from the UK who have visited SCOAN for healing from HIV, not a single one has been cured – he and his wife are living testimony to this. Apparently SCOAN London are no longer organising trips to Lagos because of the embarrassment caused by so many non-healings.

An African reader once organised groups to visit SCOAN, including several HIV positive people who came without their infected partners. He wondered how they would avoid being infected again if they continued sexual relations with their partners. Apparently none of them had an answer, and nor did they want to go for tests to validate their claim of being healed.

Out of all the correspondence we received about the article, only a single person claimed to have been healed of HIV by TB Joshua, but when we asked whether he had actually taken a test to verify this we received no reply.

An ex-disciple sheds more light on the situation. He says:

I’ve been to TBJ’s crusades, many more don’t get healed than do.

How many people have been prayed for healing from HIV during the last 16 years at SCOAN? I’d estimate at least 15,000. How many of those people have returned with negative test results, perhaps 200, maybe a few more. What about the rest? Even those 200 are a bit dubious considering how rife corruption is in Nigeria.

How many people have been healed from HIV from outside Nigeria? ZERO. None. Nada. Is the Nigeria strain of HIV easier to heal than others……..

No confirmed cases of HIV being healed outside of Nigeria? Why only Nigeria?

An investigative journalist named Jacques Pauw wrote about TB Joshua a few years ago. He tells of the fate of several people “healed” by TB Joshua:

“Wium Basson died within days of returning to South Africa. Maxie Claasen, suffering from brain, liver and breast cancer but declared healed by TB Joshua, also died shortly after returning home…

John Rindel went for an AIDS test at a private clinic in Johannesberg. He called me minutes after he had recieved the results. “I’m still HIV positive,” he said. “I’m sure it’s a mistake. They make mistakes with these tests, you know?”

“I hope they did, John,” were the only words of consolation I could think of.

“I might go back to Lagos,” he said. “I want the prophet to pray for me again.”

John Rindel never made it back to Lagos. He died a few months later.”

All of the cases listed above are in addition to the 3 deaths reported by the BBC and Sky News.

What are we left with? Lots more evidence of non-healings, no more credible evidence of genuine healings and reports of several unnecessary deaths. This is an incredibly serious issue, there could be thousands of people now infected by HIV because of these fake claims of healing. If a pharmaceutical company claimed to be able to cure HIV, a serious amount of empirical evidence would have to be gathered before they were allowed to make the claims. TB Joshua, or any other pastor making similar claims should be held to the same standards. The power of God can withstand scrutiny.

122 thoughts on “Fake claims of healing HIV at SCOAN

  1. Yes, we want a face to face interview with TB Joshua alone.
    In our office.
    With our TV team, recording everything.
    And his disciples that he used and abused and robbed.
    And our people that we will choose.
    And we will edit the recording to suit us.
    Just like he did with everyone else.


    He repents of using and abusing his disciples, breaking up families and deceiving the whole world with his clever, deceitful, tricks and say to all concerned that he is sorry for what he did in their lives.

    And everyone can see the fruit of his repentance afterwards.

    • Tb Joshua watch and saporter I am glad you are there standing agnostic Tb Joshua menstrual calling too purify his calling .ap ostle poul left as living legs power full message real man of god should pass true from his safer come the justice worthy to die for truth like Tb Joshua & my master Jesus did one thing I knew Tb Joshua he didn’t standing for money or fame like moss. He gate to pray for you & me all I wish we have like him all over the world long life & health the angle of the lord fide you heavenly food strength wisdom more abundance I truly love you Tb Joshua servant of god b b

      • @ Belete,

        Why does his prayers, water, wristband, watch, oil, cloth, prophecies, anointing, words, promises, absolutely nothing for me, nix, nada, nothing, niente as well for my family, my neighbours, friends, others and all those who I stood proxy for.

        Explain. And I am fed up about your all claims and lies SCOAN and your fake Emmanuel TV channel. Also don’t tell me any stories about only God knows. It will not do.

      • @ Belete,

        This morning one of my neighbours carried out by ambulance in a rush. Also sprayed with “anointed” water. This lady who I know personally is sick for over 2-3 year and is in critical condition. Last year she was over two months in hospital.

    • Really we would like to see the recording but again with technology you still play tricks with it and make it seem real. Sad indeed.

    • you just cant give up nee,you will be punished for all this and Hell is waiting for you,T.B. Joshua is a prophet of God and you are of satan,i wish the demons can attack you so that you can keep you bib mouth shut.

  2. Matthew 5:23-24 -“Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar TB Joshua and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to them; then come and offer your gift.”

    James 3:17 -But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle,

    open to reason/discussion, TB Joshua –

    full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere.

    And not discussions through your disciples –

    Proverbs 3:7 -Do not be wise in your own eyes TB Joshua; Fear the LORD and turn away from evil.
    Proverbs 14:8 The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways TB Joshua, but the folly of fools is deception.
    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes TB Joshua, but a wise man listens to advice.
    Proverbs 15:12 A scoffer does not like to be reproved TB Joshua; he will not go to the wise.

  3. Its all about the money. Dont believe me? Take a look at SCOAN and the surrounding neighbourhood 10 years ago, and take a look at it now.

    The church back then, when I first went, was basic concrete, very bare. The surrounding neighbourhood was also poor.

    The church today is….well, just take a look at the pics on the website. But look at the surrounding neighbourhood. Its the same. Still poor.
    All the money has been poured into yet another superchurch, which is exactly what the world needs. The people living next door remain the same.

    • @ Mr Giles,

      Look what happened to the golden elevator doors of Oral Roberts hospital. And Larry Lee’s golden window sills of his church. How he claimed that all he had left was the clothes on his back when his house burnt down, while he still had another four houses. Morris Cerrullo’s house that cost over 12 million dollars for someone who is 75 to 80 percent away from home. Benny Hinns hotel bills that were over 2500 dollars a night and a private-jet of 50 million dollars what was actually Morris Cerullo’s trimmed with golden door and window sills. Or Kenneth Copeland’s House and Jesse Duplantis’ house and how about Paul Crouch’s TBN, promising everyone who would give to them will be millionaire. Or even Benson Idahosa and Michael Reid. Even asking double tithe or triple, what does not even exist in the bible.

      Giles, they are all the same, you name them, they start humbly and simple and then after a while they all get the gold rush and dollar signs in their eyes. Inviting you to their lair. and the richer you are the bigger and elaborate pews they create for you. Eh ! You know as I know where those lies are fabricated and from what spirit they are. You don’t even need to guess. But you get my drift.

      • All these people use tithing to rob God’s people, while they make themselves richer and richer. Tithing is an Old Testament ordinance which no longer applies to the church today, but that is another issue entirely.

  4. first,who ru peoples i mean spiritual.,pls i love to know this,.and sometime we wish for good things to happen to someone u know or u dont know but pls stop this.

    • @ Patience E.

      What we are spiritual ? Can I show you what we are spiritual.

      Acts 10:34-36
      Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. 36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all)

      He is Our Lord for all of us not only of TB Joshua or you.

  5. Sirs/Madam,


    Well understood all contents written regarding HIV. We need to pray to God through Jesus Christ to assist us with love/patient/kindness/finance problems/etc – Let Love Lead. and obey commandments law of God as He is the one who know everything. God assist us with love/ future plans/project plans God assist. Shuckie

  6. Temitope Balogun Joshua, that poor illiterate from the village of Arigidi in Ondo State of Nigeria, has built himself an empire based on lies, deceit, treachery, manipulations,fabrications, false testimonies, fake healings and deliverances, and it is time he is exposed to all the world. Yes, he is getting richer and richer, while the people get poorer and poorer, but who do we blame ? Until the people begin to study their Bibles and turn to the Lord Jesus who bought them with His own blood, they would continue to be deceived by false prophets like TBJ and others like him. But judgment is upon these false prophets and all their collaborators, and sooner or later, this synagogue of Satan, called SCOAN, shall be destroyed.

    • I readed the story about a woman who survived a war-camp. Her sister was tortured to death before her eyes by a officerer last words where; “Lord I feel so pity for this man”. After the sister who survived was set in freedom, she traveld preaching the world., to tell what God had done for her. One day after her preaching about forgiveness, a man with a cap approuched her and asked her to forgive him too. He said;”God has forgiven me, but I need your forgivenes too”. She reckognized in the man the officer-executioner, who had killed her sister in a brute way. She frooze, and could not move, she could not respond., she prayed silent to God, and then her arm was filled with warmt, and she streched out her hand to the man, and she said; “God wants me to forgive you too.”. And then the man broke and fell down on his knees for her and God.

  7. How many more evidence of writings ONLY do you have to post? Plz we do not need evidence from people who send you emails, we need LIVE evidences. SCOAN certainly give LIVE evidences of people who had it, went for a second and third test, and saw the result negative. If you need more evidences about them, then fly to Lagos and have a one on one encounter with these people. T.b. Joshua encourages that.

    So do not believe and post the different emails people send you. Thats not concrete enough.
    If i despise and hate T.b. Joshua i’ll certainly send you emails to defame and criticise Him. And if i do love Him, i’ll send emails to His Favour. Lets use our discretion! No one is a baby here. Give us credible evidences.

    • You might have point Doi if we were the only source of this evidence, but are you saying that between the evidence gathered by us, the BBC, Sky News and Jacques Pauw, all of it is false? On the other hand, the only source of evidence claiming that people really have been healed of HIV is SCOAN! So on the one hand we have multiple, independent sources – on the other hand we have a single source which is the church making the claims. And you say it’s us lacking in evidence?!

      • yes. you can aswell ask the different hospitals who confirmed them hiv negative. but how would you know when you don’t meet these people? go to Scoan and go with a genuine reason. bbc, sky all went with the aim of spying the church. thats different from genuine investigation.
        besides T.b. Joshua has a lot of antagonists all over the world. let alone Nigeria( His Country)’. so you can’t base your judgements on what the people say. find out for yourselves.

      • I’ve said before, and I’ll say it again – claiming that TB Joshua heals HIV is an extraordinary claim. It’s also a claim that could do huge damage if false. If SCOAN are to make these claims, it is up to them to facilitate independent researchers gathering data to validate the claim. What if I told you I could fly? Maybe I could even show you a photo of me doing it. Would you believe it? I expect not. That hundreds of people have been healed of HIV at SCOAN is about as extraordinary claim as me claiming to be able to fly.

  8. Now you are trying to insinuate that even those who bring reports of the before and after situations in the real sence are not healed? Do you think they will give their testimonies when they aren’t convinced they are healed? When they haven’t seen the negative results over and over again from different hospitals and clinics? And will they actually lie to themselves and the world? I really don’t think so. So you had better look for more credible evidences to match SCOAN’S.
    And About them going back to their infected partnes, i could remember vividly, Scoan giving them advice and encourgement about that immediately after the healing. I have personally seen such.

    I’ll hold for now to see your proofs.

    • Real evidence does not come from SCOAN, but from an independent and credible source. Most of your testimonies are concocted, fabricated and choreographed to project TBJ, and that is why I don’t believe anything about SCOAN. When I did not know my Bible, I believed everything about SCOAN, I believed TBJ was a great man of God, until I saw the deception, the lies, the concoctions, fabrications, fake testimonies, etc.,and now I am wiser.Yes, the Word of God makes us wise unto salvation.2 Tim 3:15, and those who desire to know the truth need to study their Bibles and stop watching videos and Emmanuel television. This is the only way one can avoid being scammed by false prophets in this end-time deception.

    • @ Doi,

      I am that proof. I was healed of absolute NOTHING or ANYTHING in all my visits and presence to SCOAN as well those that I stood proxy for. NOW SHUT UP AND TAKE A HIKE with your lies and fantasies !

    • Now you are trying to insinuate that even those who bring reports of the before and after situations in the real sence are not healed?

      Yes. See the quote added to the article from an ex-disciple. How can you explain the fact that all those coming with proof are from Nigeria?

  9. Doi, run as fast and as quick from this place. Do not write anything here and do not feed trolling.

  10. Halloooo………

    …and about them going back to their infected partners, I could remember vividly, Scoan giving them advice and encouragement about that immediately after the healing. I have personally seen such…

    You have personally seen what? Scoan telling them to abstain from their partner forever?

    Really? Or what have you seen?

    Giving fornicators and adulterers’ advice of what?

    An adulterer giving advice to another adulterer?

    Wake up babe, wake up!

    Stop defending a liar, get out of that place quickly.

    You know what I am talking about.

    TB Joshua is waisting your time. Nothing of his promises to you have come out.


    Come on!

  11. TBJ tells them, ” Go and give your testimony, you have been healed, just have faith, go tell the doctors to give you a certificate..blah, blah, blah.” And then you have fake Nigerian doctors who will do anything for money, giving fake certificates, or TBJ himself could print the certificates and get them signed and stamped…..See, TBJ can do anything, because he is an expert at fabrications. Anyone can believe TBJ all they want but as for me, the blindness and delusion has cleared from my eyes, no more to be deceived by wolves in sheep’s clothing.

    • Mr terrific I am ashamed for you have Ben telling as Tb Joshua fack profit now you are telling as all Nigeria doctor are lire. I can understand you don’t have fer of god you can say whatever you went but you gone stand upfront all known god you respond every words you says unless you asked forgivenese . You are despises some people heart blessing Satan anyway truth standing.

  12. It works unto anyone according to his faith.
    U only talked about dead ones. There many living miracles of HIV cured far more than u can imagine. U publication is inspired by Satan to deny people of their healing and salvation. HIV is from Satan and people like U are his agents. Be rebuked in JESUS NAME! Amen . Our God reignth and ruleth over U Satan

    • @ Ogbom,

      I am going to refer to that scripture again Ogbom watch carefully and do likewise.

      Romans 12:14
      Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

      And stop your pathetic rebuking as one that beats in the air about uncovered truth that has been proven from many of us.

      Also you don’t have to rebuke the in your head imaginary devils and demons concerning us.
      King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) John 8:32
      And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

  13. Terrific. Thats no proof. I need real proofs.
    Do not insinuate things about Scoan you don’t have evidence about. I guess thats the reason you haven’t been able to charge them by the law. Coz you know nothing but lies, false sayings and different formulations.
    Thats why all you can do is write on different media and blogs against the Prophet. And i tell you today, thats all you’ll be able to do until you are called. I’ll hold and wait for you genuine proof. Then i’ll be back here.

    @ mr Detergent. Thanks alot for that. I do understand why. Trust me. I’ll leave this untruthful and heartless blog soon. But i want to make sure i leave for something better than merely commenting here.

    • The prophet ? Which prophet ? Doi, up till now, you still don’t get it ! You still don’t understand that Temitope Balogun Joshua is a false prophet. I don’t blame you, because even in the Bible, deluded people like you called a false prophet,” The Great Power of God.” Read that in Acts 8. This your false prophet deceived me once but it will never happen again. Not only that, he also came to my country Ghana to deceive 22 million people with fake miracles, so now I have a responsibility to EXPOSE this criminal called TBJ. This blog is just one small way to expose TBJ, but the real SHOWDOWN has not even begun. You wait and see….!

    • Prophet TB joshua is the man of GOD , if you like it or not…………is gonna do the work of GOD .


    • So your message to those who died after TB Joshua told them they were healed and to quit their medication is “It’s your fault, you didn’t have enough faith”?! Charming.

    • Emilly, you say;”if i believe that when I touch wise-man Harry I will be healed.”. This is deception. You can believe your cat will heal you too, when you believe in it. This is superstition-believe, it”s a form of suggestion, not faith. The believing in the finished works of Jezus Christ on the cross is much and much deeper and Holier, then touching a wise-man. Dont make a misstake, its not the wise-man who is the factor of believing, its Jezus Christ. If you believe in Jezus Christ, you can touch your bible and believe it will heal you, and it will. You dont need to travel to scoan for it, its right there, at your own place.

    • @ Emilly,

      Touching Harry right ? Again proof that you rely on man instead of a touch of Jesus Who is the Healer.

      Usually people who claim to have it all have nothing. Read for evidence;

      Revelation 3:17-18
      Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

  15. Ya, Doi, I hope and pray that you leave that place for something better – “But i want to make sure i leave for something better than merely commenting here”.

    That will just be answer to our prayers.


    Remember: TB Joshua Watch will be there to help you with your hurt and disillusionment once you wake up and leave TB Joshua and scoan.
    And you have not answered my question?
    Or is it a state secret again. Or did Tbj not give you permission to tell the world what is going on behind the scenes there??????

    • @just wonder. i don’t answer unecessary questions, neither do i read pointless but prolonged comments.

      • @ Doi,

        You don’t read them because you know you have to lie about my questions.

        Short comment here, do you agree and admit that the leadership “deliverances” are or were fake and that they made it up as they agreed with each other to unleash a strategy that is now biting them the backside. Answer the question !

  16. Sirs/Madam,

    Nothing is impossible with God through His only Son Jesus Christ thats why in the Old Testment and New Testment written that Prophent were there through God’s power people were healed. As well as TB Joshua as a Prophent,as man of God,through Jesus Christ- nothing will be impossible- I will be healed and Christ is mercful,kind and He hears my seeking. I needed the Anointed Water and I always watch TV Emmanuel and I always touch screen whenever TB Joshua is preaching and I believe the Words of God. God bless -Shucky

  17. Stop sending this stupid messeges in my mail account. You of litle faith do you think you can stop God from doing his work? i pray that someday you encounter the God of T.B Joshua abd you will swallow all you have written againts the Man of God. May God forgive you

    • @ Faith Mushi,

      Correction, the Bible tells me otherwise.

      Luke 17:5-6
      And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith. 6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.

      How much faith do we need ? You are telling us that we have little faith ? You are correct that we have no more confidence in the trickery of TB Joshua and wisemen. Big difference. but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. Not trickery and deception. Read II Thessalonians 2 for reference whole chapter please.

  18. @ All,

    Funny that all of a sudden TB Joshua henchmen spring up like mushrooms when you turn up the fire under their booties. Apparently the Sword of the Spirit is causing upheaval in the ranks. Doi is already preparing the tail between Doi’s legs. Boohoooooo, Doi. A real child of God answers the questions and does not twirl around about truth. Just like Candle Holder. Gone with the wind.

  19. @ Jesse. if it was possible i would swear that their deliverances weren’t agreed on. and it has no stratagy of any kind. they are being set free by God’s divine hand and nothing more. and what has this got to do with the power of God at Scoan? i have my question for you. just two.
    1. do you believe God Almighty does any true work in SCOAN?
    2. do you also believe God still works through prophets today? am not saying all. or better still; do you believe Jesus still works through any prophet/pastor today?

  20. @ Doi,

    Yes I do believe that God heals. Through SCOAN ? There is a possibility but many healings and deliverances are not true.

    Here is a quote from:

    alan Seago 2 Mar 2013

    My wife has an Abdominal and Lungs Cancer. She wanted to go and visit SCOAN-Nigeria desperately..but her Confirmation Request was rejected. She called long distance about a hundred times the 4 international phone numbers that has given to her,sent text messages, emailed many times, but been ignored. She decided to go without the invitation support and stay in any hotels outside the Synagogue, just to meet the Prophet and the prayer line..I’m glad she changed her mind not to travel there anymore.

    Yes Jesus works through pastors. That is not my problem. My problem and staunch conviction is that the leaders of SCOAN in diverse branches were not delivered because I am hundred procent sure they had no demons of that sort. That they have sins and confessed them, no problem. But that is no deliverance. That is confessing sins.

    How do I know, I just know. I know more than you give me credit. I have been treated disrespectful about my knowledge and I have particularly been offended by Candle Holder who has been cursing me and using the word to create havoc and threats upon my life and my family.

    I have asked myself what kind of person does that ? I asked this because Jesus asked the same from His disciples.

    I have watched, checked, discerned, prayed for years upon years. I have seen a lot of ministries in my lifetime, but one like this with this vile aggressive behaviour towards people who disagree with them is beyond me.

    Secondly the vile and nasty ostracising that some of you do is so awful. You can better talk to an staunch atheist than one in SCOAN when they have their hat on. For them everything is perfect and awesome, but don’t understand zip about Revelation 3:17-18.

    Even some of you are so dripping of haughtiness, self-righteousness and self grandeur it is beyond description.

    I have written so much and said so much but none of it you accept as true. That is what you get if a 100,000 say yes and only few say no. Blown up out of yourself and not seeing anything more than yourself and how you can promote self.

    I cannot find this in your church at all than lip service to Jesus Christ. Proven by the light of Gods word.

    John 3:30-36
    He must increase, but I must decrease. 31 He that cometh from above is above all:he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth:he that cometh from heaven is above all. 32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. 33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. 34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life:and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    I know for sure that things are staged. And I am proof that I was never healed, delivered, nor my family, friends, nor those I stood proxy for. Not even in this claimed three stages of deliverance. You are a sham and a fake. I have seen enough from it all. you dont even need spiritual discernment for it at all, just watch them all and you will find out. I am not saying everything are lies, but there are a lot. Enough for me to totally reject it. Do you understand Doi

    Proverbs 18:19
    A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city:
    and their contentions are like the bars of a castle.

    But you don’t care you are just obsessed with self and TB Joshua.

  21. @ Doi,

    Concerning your interest in swearing by God.

    Matthew 5:34-37
    But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool:neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay:for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

    Again, Do you agree and admit that the deliverances of the leaders of SCOAN were imaginary demons and devils. Yes or No ? I say, Yes. You will say no because you want to protect the fall of SCOAN if it is true what I say. I call God the Father, The Lord Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and the heavenly Host witness against you this day. What will it be ? Yes or no ?

  22. Jesse,
    I agree totally with your summary of tbj, his disciples and scoan. It is 100% correct.
    Their fruit is worse than the heathen. I know many people of different non Christian religions, they are lovely people, but tbj and followers are like a satanic cult compared to them.
    TB Joshua’s fruit and his disciples’ are rotten.
    Rotten to the core.


  23. Ok, let me try and put the whole situation in a summary like this:

    False Prophets, like tbj, will have rotten fruit, although he will be able to do
    great miracles in the Name of Jesus, like tbj
    He will also be able to prophecy and drive out demons in the Name of Jesus, like tbj.
    False apostles will preach a different gospel; have a different Jesus and Spirit, like tbj.

    And Jude 1:4 … certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago that have secretly slipped in among you.
    They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into
    a license for immorality, like tbj.

    TB Joshua fits all of these criteria in the Bible, but he goes even further.

    He is a dictatorial, slimy, python, cult leader, with a Babylonian ministry built on deceptions and sins that are reaching to the heavens.

    His prophecies, miracle and deliverances are mostly staged and fake.
    He is accused of running a Harem in Lagos, Nigeria.
    And he is teaching a different Gospel.

    What more proof do you need to wake up?

  24. To TB Joshua Watch:

    “Absolutely right, and what makes this doubly hard to accept is seeing people you loved, respected and admired be molded into his hideous image.”

    Exactly. Seeing your loved ones, being molded into his hideous image. It makes you sick to your stomach. And it is done under the mantle of Jesus. And our unsaved friends can see through his trick clearly and are even put of Christianity more!

    And the worst is his disciples that he drops like a used up pen, neatly looses their faith in Jesus and most often becaomes physically sick, because of the wake up shock!

  25. I say again Doi,
    Use the courage of your conviction and get out of that place.

    Stop defending a common deceiving liar.

    Stop wasting your precious time on TB Joshua.

    Surely in your heart you must know about his tricks?


    • Doi is trapped. He could be among those who are totally dependent on TBJ, who have a fear of being independent without any visible source of income or even where to lay their head, but if they put their trust in the Lord, He would make a way for them. If they don’t repent but continue to collaborate with this agent of Satan, called TBJ, they would perish with him. A word to the wise is enough !

  26. I have a very sad testimony.
    Pentecostal churches are at the forefront of breaking people faith, with this gospel they preach of prosperity, health and miracles.
    Yesterday I went to pay my condolence to a family that had lost a son and a brother.
    He is someone I have known for years and grew up with.
    He had a heart problem which became serious and had to be flown to a South African hospital and was scheduler for surgery today but did not make it.
    His loving sister decided to see certain so called prophet to seek healing for her brother.
    During the prayers the so called man of God, apparently prophised that a certain lady has a brother who is not well and had to be flown out of the country for medical attention, and that he was healed.
    She started jumping up and down shouting that her brother was healed.
    10 minutes later she gets a call to say that,he was off oxgen and got news later that same night that he had died.
    Now can anyone imagine the greif of this family.
    I saw her yesterday so distraught.
    The problem is that alot of people have lost faith in God and put faith in people who are ready to deceive for fame and money!
    There are alot of TB Joshua’s around way too many!!

  27. @Jacky,
    I’m sorry to hear that, but this is a false prophet trying to make a bold claim, albeit, falsely. In any crowd, it is easy to find a woman whose brother is sick, or a man whose sister is sick. It is either the sick gets healed or dies, it is a hit or miss situation, and this false prophet made a bold but false prophecy. If he had “hit,” the poor people would imagine he was some great prophet. Many of these sorcerers are all over the place, and it is time to expose them. They are no prophets at all, but ravening wolves in sheep’s clothing, and T B Joshua is just one among many sorcerers.

    • @ Jacky,

      I am sorry to hear that, but I know from many years ago similar things were happening. The sick people were publicly declared healed, only to die days, weeks later. Example: the wife of T. L. Osborne. Which I have met personally many years ago. Look it up what happened.

      @ Mr. Terrific,


    • Jesse and Mr T thank you.
      This surely is great sourcery because they have no remorse and they keep on deceiving people.
      It’s not the first tim this so called prophet has done this, yet people keep going in to him.
      I also heard th same day, of someone who had been to SCOAN, declared healed and died a month late!
      The most sad thing about it is that some people take loans and even sell of property just to make that trip to SCOAN.
      If only people read Bibles for them selves, instead of letting this people quote then one of 2 scriptures and they think the world of them.
      There is another problem I noted in these churches which is fueling greed and deciet.
      Let’s say someone puts their hands on me and prays for me.
      If that prayer intention is answered, why would I be enclined to give that Pastor money or even a car in some cases?
      If someone is truly doing God’s work , he/she is doing a service an should not expect anything in return.
      But it’s common in Pentecostal churches to reward the Pastor.
      I think this is wrong and it’s reason why there are fake miracles all kinds of ungodly acts going on in some churches.
      Jesus washed the feet of the disciples for a reason, he was trying to show them that their work was of service not the other way round.
      I pray that God has mercy on our souls on this Good Friday!

      • Jacky, the Bible says those who preach the gospel should live by the gospel. 1 Cor 9:14. That means true servants of God should be supported by those they serve, out of love, and not compulsion or coercion. Yes, we have received freely and must give freely, without expecting anything in return, but those who are able should be willing to support godly servants. But alas, there are many fraudsters, scammers and sorcerers in the ministry, fleecing the Lord’s people, demanding payments in cash or kind, or threatening people with paying tithes and that is wrong.

    • Jesse

      This article is so true.
      At one point I had a very distressing problem and I came accros a pastor who advised me to say to God that I won’t take no for an answer!tell God to give you want you want and he said some funny things which seemed not okay to me, said certain things which were contary to my faith, which if I had followed would have been disatrous.
      Surely you can’t make make God what you want, you ask God for something, let Gods will be done, it’s up to God to give us what we want or not.
      At times he does not give straight away, it takes time sometimes.
      What the likes of SCOAN do is to preach to people that healing is always instant, or if you ask God for healing you have to receive it.
      Thus telling people that they are healed when they are not and fakeing healings.
      Telling people that they are not healed cause of having little faith.
      If you read about life of Saints, you will see that they were humble people who did alot of healings etc, yet you see that they often were afflicted with some sort of illness but still trusted God so much and embraced their illness and praised God even as they were dieing.
      They did not go about boasting and creating a stage for miracles.
      The Bible does not say we will live forever, we come from dust thus we will return to it.
      The end of a human person is death.
      If you do not receive your healing at that time, it is your time to die.
      Sometimes I wish people could think, people would rather be lied to by fake so called men of God than read their Bibles.
      How many of such fake people of God have come and gone.Others are still to come to deceive people.
      I feel sorry for the souls of these people who were told that they were healed just to die soon after, would they not have died hateing God cause they were not healed?is this not sending them to eternal damnation?

      • Mr Detergent has nothing to offer to the discussion, except to dissuade others from speaking. He imagines that if SCOAN devotees don’t speak, we would stop writing on this blog. What he doesn’t understand is that this blog is for those who are seeking for the truth about SCOAN, and not for devotees who have lost their bearings and refuse to see the light, but hide their heads in the sand like ostriches do. I thought he had some cleaners to clean up the mess at SCOAN, but alas, he is just another SCOAN devotee without a voice or mind of their own. They don’t understand how their sacred cow, TBJ, could be cut to pieces by the sword of the Spirit and exposed as the common criminal and fraudster that he is !

    • @ Mr T
      I know why am saying what I am saying I have seen this happen a few times one Pastor even preached to the church saying ” you are not blessed because you do not give to your pastor”
      I have come accross alot of pastors who tell stories of how so and so gave them money after they had prayed for someone and how that money helped them, indirectly hinting that, that is what one should do.

      • Jacky, don’t get me wrong, I understand what you are saying. Those pastors–and there are many of them– are ROGUES !!! They are greedy dogs who cannot get enough fleecing the Lord’s people. They use tithing to ROB and STEAL from the Lord’s people, and this must stop. And I’m glad you don’t give your money to them. We need more people like you who would refuse to give their money to these ROBBERS !!!!!

  28. Jesse,

    Today it is the BIG ME and the little god.
    It should be the BIG GOD and the little me.

    We need to submit ourselves to God and after prayer say; “Your will be done GOD”, in Jesus Name.

    When will they understand that it is not all a health and wealth Gospel?

    It is a turn or burn Gospel.

    “…strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to remain true to the faith.
    “We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” they said – Acts 14:22
    To this you were called because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example that you should follow in his steps – 1 Peter 2:21

    Now these things happened to the Israelites in the Wildernis as an example and they were written down for our instruction on whom the end of the ages has come – 1 Corinthians 10:11

    The Israelites in the Wilderness did not want to wait for God to act, but demanded better food, testing God’s patience to the breaking point. So He gave then their demands, but send leanness in their souls – Psalm 106:13-15 (Living Bible).

    It also not a claim it and I demand more money, my health or what else Gospel.

    There are too much demands and pride in todays churches.

    That is why God send leaness or plagues in their kamps.

    • Just Wonder : Jezus almost only healed. , and teached the way of His Father. Jezus died for our sins and diseases, and by His finished work on the cross , He promised Salvation., for us; Salvation is being whole in Spirit and health. This is a path of the blessings and promises of God. Abrahams blessings are mine. This is the table He sets before us, if we are willing to believe and take it. This is no greedyness, its the abundant life God promises to every-one who keeps and lives His Word. / A lot of African pastors did not reached Salvation, they just parasite on the members donations. Thats greedyness. / Even nuns and moncks, who serve for a life-time, receive a monthly payment. But most of all, God will provide any-how when we serve as He directs.

      • Correction Nuns and Monks do not get paid for serving the church , being s monk or nun or a priest is not a profession but a calling.
        They lead a life of service.
        These people don’t own possesions like cars, houses etc they leave everything they own behind when they join the vocation of service.
        Pope John-Paul died with almost nothing.
        Please let’s not tell lies here!
        Please get you facts staright!

  29. @Very,
    I got your message and have replied. Did you receive it yet ? Please send reply through my email.

  30. Is this not what is going on in scoan?

    Hypnotizing people and telling them that they are healed, demon possessed and then delivered etc. etc.

    Me Hypnotized?

    You Can’t Hypnotize Me!

    What spirit is working there?

    It sure is not Holy?


      • @Joshua Matagane,
        There’s no jealousy here, and I am black like you. Many of our so called prophets in Africa and elsewhere are nothing but false prophets and sorcerers, who are just fleecing ignorant people to make themselves rich, but people like you think it is a case of black versus white, but it is not.

      • Matagane; I met and know white people with the power of God. And to tell the truth, they are much more humble then what I watched in the African churches. Most white pastors dont present them-selves in golden suits, to show their good-goings. They would not have a very life as a pastor. They are democratic corrected by their members.

      • @ Joshua Matagane,

        What power are we talking about here ? Slam them on the ground (aka slain in the spirit as most coloured pastors do, but also including white one’s) and then what ? Declare them delivered. Delivered of what ? Imaginary demons and devils.

        How many times did Jesus and the Disciples deliverance and was it their main ministry ? Jesus did 34 distinctive different Miraculous Miracles. Specialized Miracles were Walking on Water, Silencing a storm and 2 miraculous catch of fish and healing a cut off ear on the spot, feeding 5000 and 4000 with only 2 fish and 5 loaves. Do we see anything of that in SCOAN since it is the ultimate ministry of ministries ? Please explain why not JOshua Matagene ?

        When Jesus executed deliverance in Biblical times, the following could be read and noted:

        Before casting any demon out He rebuked (or reprimanded) the demons. Did not ask them to walk like a Queen, King, Big man, Poseidon, Snake, Crocodile, Fish as done in SCOAN.

        And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he (immediately) departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. Matthew 17:18 Please demonstrate in front of doctors and surgeons from America and Europe with cameras independently not from SCOAN.

        And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the child, and delivered him again to his father. Luke 9:42 No doctors present to verify right there and then when it happens.

        Then He cast them out. And he preached in their synagogues throughout all Galilee, and cast out devils. Mark 1:39
        He did it verbally (Matthew 8:16), not by a certain ritualistic or lenghty procedure and interrogation.

        When the evening was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word HE DIDN’T ALLOW THE DEMONS TO SPEAK. (Mark 1:34; Luke 4:41) except in asking Legion’s name (Mark 5:9; Mark 1:25; Luke 4:35; Mark 3:11-12) He told them to “be quiet and come out” (Luke 4:35; Mark 1:25). These lenghty fantasy stories we have to watch over and over again in hundreds of people. Any use ? You tell me. Demons are liars. Who want to listen to liars ? Anyone ?

        Continued in Next post

      • But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be quiet, and come out of him!” Other times He told them to “go” (Matthew 8;32).
        And He said to them, “Go.” So when they had come out, they went into the herd of swine. No demonstration in SCOAN either with that.

        He did deliverance over a distance (Matthew 15:21-28; Mark 7:24-30). This is what SCOAN claims with “Distance is not a barrier”, I challenged them on it concerning several issues, healings, deliverances and clearly nothing happens. It’s all hot inflated air. If they claim the Holy Spirit and God is listening to them. Why can’t they prove it ?

        Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour. 29: Then He said to her, “For this saying go your way; the demon has gone out of your daughter.” 30: And when she had come to her house, she found the demon gone out, and her daughter lying on the bed. Again no proof in SCOAN shown live on TV.

        When He cast them out He forbid them to ever return again (Mark 9:25). No evidence in SCOAN of being said when deliverance takes place.

        When Jesus saw that the people came running together, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, “Deaf and dumb spirit, I command you, come out of him and enter him no more!” Let’s line up some real random deaf and dumb people in or rather outside SCOAN and let them show their deliverances as Jesus did in front of CNN, FOX News, CCTV, BBC, Sky News, NPR, CNET, MSBNC. Etc. etc.

        Another proof that the ministry of Jesus is completely different from that in SCOAN to Doi, Mr Detergent, Candle Holder, Joshua Matagane, you name them who are so enamoured with SCOAN.

        Nowhere Jesus used “anointed” water,”(then only one time spitting and using mud and go wash yourself) for that purpose.

        Plus they using people who are good in making the following below sounds as if they are demon possessed.

        – Bilabial trill
        – Pharyngeal fricative
        – Implosive velar stop
        – Uvular trill
        – Alveolar click
        – Palatal click
        – Lateral click
        – Pulmonic ingressive voiceless lateral fricative

        And have graduated from the “Wale Adenuga Productions Institute of Actors”.

        Also still maintaining their denial that the lengthy “deliverances and shows” are not for the fact to attract more people and unstable people to the church to extract monies from them.

        So it is very easy to discern we are dealing with FAKE over there.

    • No, this is not Holy Spirit, but demonic spirit, the kind of spirit that is working at SCOAN, hypnotising and deceiving people in the name of the Lord.

  31. God’s sends us a spirit of strong delusion (hypnoses?), because we do not want to accept the truth.

    9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness – 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

    Let us repent again in this Season of God, so that Jesus can save us from the deceiving spirits of our day.

    And let us go back to old time Bible study and do what the Bible says and not what these false prophets and apostles say.

    Let us come out of the hypnotic state that they have put us in, through the Truths in God’s Word.

    Remember The Bible says; “All ten brides maids were asleep just before the Bridegroom came.”

    Let us let the Word of God wake us up.

    • You hit the nail right on the head ! Many believers are sleeping and waiting for these false prophets, apostles and sorcerers to tell them what the Bible says. It is a case of the blind leading the blind, and unless they wake up from their slumber, they are already deceived.

  32. Believe me, I have more to do than just writing here for the fun of it, but I am taking the time to write on this blog for the salvation, healing and deliverances of souls caught in tbj’s deceptions. I was where you are for a very, very long time, until I sought God very earnestly, because I felt something is very wrong in my life, but could not put my finger on it. If that was not the case, I would stop. My time and effort goes to stand for the truth of God’s Word. The fight is against the kingdom of darkness and its deceptions. Remember satan is the father of lies!
    I hope and pray that all will be saved out of the kingdom of darkness and brought into the kingdom of light of Jesus Christ, whether you are black or white, pink or yellow.
    Also for the salvation of all the disciples in scoan. I do not want anyone to go to hell, because they were deceived. I appreciated the warnings that came my way when I was still in scoan. It was painful, but right.

    • @ Just Wonder,

      + 1

      We just hope and pray that God as I stand with you concerning this last post will answer our prayers as said in:

      Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
      (Matthew 18:18-19 KJV)


  33. Signs follow that who believe and theres no situation too hard for jesus christ, through jesus all kind of diseases are curable

  34. Miss Penny,

    Nobody here has problem with that. The problem lies with the false and fake claims. As simple as that.

  35. Don’t send me again about Prophet TB JOSHA of BAD NEWS ,WHICH ONE CAN I believe WHAT I SEE or what I read I testmonise that GOD ALMIGHT USE THIS INNOCENT MAN to untie many people .you demon what ever you say about MEN  GOD it is from your heart not true so don’t play with FIRE .


  36. @ All,

    Especially Doi,

    Proof of fake.


    A viewer of Emmanuel TV from Benue, Nigeria was Mr Joshua Kanyitor, a farmer of yams and groundnuts who was suffering from failure in farming for 5 years as his crops constantly perished. He came to The SCOAN and received the Anointing Water.
    He returned to his farm and washed his seeds in the Anointing Water before planting them. That harvest season, all of the seeds developed into beautiful, large-sized yams and he harvested 1,800 tubers of yam. He reminded all of Prophet T.B. Joshua’s “Prophecies For Individuals For 2013”, in which he prophesied that 2013 would bring a boom for those involved in agricultural and foodstuff businesses. Let us thank God for His Word and His breakthrough in our lives!”

    Here is the proof Doi,

    Yam tubers can grow up to 1.5 meters (4.9 feet) in length[2] and weigh up to 70 kilograms (154 lb) and 3 to 6 inches high.

    The picture with Mr Kanyitor show smalls yams and I know yams and have eaten yams. These are small, tiny.

    Next thing. The prophecy is 3 months old. For yam to grow and mature it takes nearly a year.

    Yam typically grows for six to ten months and is dormant for two to four months, depending on the species. The growth and dormant phases correspond respectively to the wet season and the dry season. For maximum yield the yam requires a humid tropical environment, with an annual rainfall of over 1500 millimeters distributed uniformly throughout the growing season.

    Those yams did not reach the size of above. If they were bigger than that, I could believe it, but they are not. And also claim he grew them within 3 months of the prophecy. Hahahaha. Yeah right.

    If they reached this size http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news_images/5703Lisbon%20yam2.jpg

    Then we can call it a miracle. But they did not.

    I checked the rainfall in Benue state in Nigeria.

    Tropical hinterland with two distinct seasons with the rainy season recording 750-1500 mpa.

    Temperatures are between 23-35° C.

    Excellent data for growing yams. And he still had failure for 5 years ?

  37. people may have been healed, and they had sex again. why shouldn’t HIV come back?

    people still don’t understand God’s work!

    when you have been healed, you should repent! But no, they keep on sinning!

    10 People had skin disease, Jesus healed them all. Only 1 person came back to glorify Jesus for healing him, the others did not!
    So why shouldn’t they have skin disease again?

    “i have been healed of my HIV, now I can keep having sex all i want”


  38. This is horrible! I can see that this page is a page against d work of God through TBJ. Agents of baphomet u will not succeed. Of course satan can quote bible. Stop critisizing others n focuse on ur biz. Weither he’s doing it right or wrong God will be the one to judge him TBJ. As for me i believe all that God has been using him to do to d lifes of many~. Of course Jesus was critisized by d jews. Jesse n his crew am not suprised at u. The lord will keep on fighting 4 u my dear daddy in the lord TBJ. LIARS, who cares?

  39. We need to understand one thing what ever TB Joshua is doing that is not his power God is using him and for my belief God never fail He is able to do anything,so we need to come to a point that TB JOSHUA is nt the one who heal God is using his body to do His work so let’s please stop pointing fingers on him

  40. Tb joshua has healed so many people with aids.you people are just trying to critise the man of God.remind you,there is no impossibility with God as a matter of fact Tb joshua can cast out aids with the spirit of God.if you say Tb joshua has never healed anyone with aids that means God has never healed anyone with aids.

  41. Go get a life and leave TB Joshua alone!If you are better than him,how many lives have you impacted positively.Remember this,when you are pointing a finger at someone,the rest fingers are pointing at you!

  42. Why test someone instead of testing the spirit 1 john 4:1-2 how will one who say he is a beliver find time to sit and criticise a man of God if satan’s power has become greater than that of God then counterfeit better of than original then with all I have seen and testify I will know of a truth TB Joshua is not a man of God

  43. how many people can give like TB Joshua if we can have 50 pastors like him bye bye to poverty Danso Daniel

    • T B Joshua has nothing to give but the money he collects from the Lord’s people, and even that, he gives only a fraction, while giving some as bribes to newsmen, policemen and his bootlickers so they could defend him. He also gives money to people for false testimonies and manipulated miracles, while he stashed away over 20 million dollars for himself.

  44. If you dont believe in what TBjoshua is doing then there is nothing god can do to please this Generetion


    • TBJ never said it with his own mouth, because he is not a man enough to say it with his own mouth, like AJ Miller and others who claim to be messiahs. What he does is to use people to say it for him, like he uses his blog to promote him as messiah. Like he used a woman to say he is the ” expected messiah,” on Sunday, May 26, 2013.Yes, three times the woman made this satanic claim on behalf of TBJ, while his zombie urged the woman to go on with her false testimony ! It is the same thing as TBJ saying it himself, but using someone else’s mouth, because TBJ is a hypocrite and is very deceitful ! He would say he never claimed to be messiah, while at the same time he uses people to say it for him.
      T B Joshua, your mago mago, wuru, wuru and jigbiti has come to an end !

  46. The only problem the world is facing today is that they forget to take a single minute and concentrate on their affairs. If TB Joshua is fake as many claim to be. Jesus Christ advised us not to judge others including TB Joshua, whether he is doing right or wrong the comment still stand. do not judge. And who are we to touch the anointed ones of God. King Saul in the old testament was not doing good before God, but David still respected him and never touched him because he was anointed. Let us be careful, lest we fall in the same bitterness of God’s wrath and judgement.


  48. Your healing depends on your faith with God.
    Prophet TB Joshua does not heal but God does.
    TB Joshua is God’s messenger not the healer. So
    stop making accusations about someone. TB Joshua
    is not licensed to heal any particular sickness or
    disease but prays for people to be healed and
    delivered. If HIV is not healed, thousands of people are
    Healed of different element daily and weekly. Let’s thank
    God and appreciate what God is doing through this man.

  49. I feel very sad to read your comment below that
    you will like a face to face interview with the man of
    God but indicating that you will edit before airing.
    Do you take everyone one to be that stupid. Why do
    you have to edit the material before broadcasting. Give us the raw
    content and we figure out what to take from it.

  50. IT IS A FACT AND SO TRUE THAT JESUS IS USING PROPHET JOSHUA!…HE IS A REAL MAN OF GOD!…NOTHIN U SAY CAN CHANGE OUR MIND. For ur information, Jesus is the one who is healing HIV, and to his power nothin is impossible!….JOSHUA IS REAL…Find out and investigate on ur self if u really wana kno the truth!

  51. Man of God, Prophet T. B. Joshua, you are called and choosen among the called ones. all who are criticising are jealous because they are not given what you are given by God but yet they are still your brothers and sisters in christ Jesus. There is time for everything, God the creator of heaven and earth sees what you are passing through, soon and very soon all criticizers will bow down and confess their weaknesses at scoan in Jesus name. The devil is shaken because its operational period on earth is limited and is about to come to an end. He is now under a big confussion because the fire of holy ghost is being released from heaven to earth every moment. Remain blessed and keep shining Sir.

  52. if you think Prophet TB Johsua is the devil, then you who is of God…Love him enough to deliver him from his devlish power so many can be saved! and when you coment, under what spirit yourselves are you under…Check your selves before in God’s light and let God be the judge…TB Joshua is a Man of God.

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