Messages of support for Wiseman John Chi

There have been a number of rumours circulating lately that Wiseman John Chi had left SCOAN, today TB Joshua confirmed it. It is wonderful news that a senior leader in SCOAN has woken up and seen the light, but watch very carefully in the coming days at how SCOAN respond to it. Expect them to do everything possible to discredit him.

Wiseman John Chi – we commend you for taking the bold step that you have, and pray that you find safety, peace and above all experience the abundant grace of God, who does not condemn, does not slander, does not hold grudges but who loves unconditionally. If you wish to make contact with others who have made the same move as you, email tbjoshuawatch@hotmail.co.uk. We’re not after your story, but will do all we can to help your transition.

Please leave your messages of support for Wiseman John Chi in the comments below. If you are one of the many readers who does not comment – please consider making an exception here, and posting a message to the Wiseman. It is impossible to know what he’s going through right now, but he will need all the support he can get. It is very likely he will come across this page, so it is currently the best way to get messages to him. The comments on this post are for messages of support and encouragement only, and they will be moderated as such.

We leave you with the following piece by Jan Groenveld called “It Hurts”:

IT HURTS to discover you were deceived – that what you thought was the “one true religion,” the “path to total freedom,” or “truth” was in reality a cult.
IT HURTS when you learn that people you trusted implicitly – whom you were taught not to question – were “pulling the wool over your eyes” albeit unwittingly.
IT HURTS when you learn that those you were taught were your “enemies” were telling the truth after all — but you had been told they were liars, deceivers, repressive, satanic etc and not to listen to them.
IT HURTS when you know your faith in God hasn’t changed – only your trust in an organization – yet you are accused of apostasy, being a trouble maker, a “Judas”. It hurts even more when it is your family and friends making these accusations.
IT HURTS to realize their love and acceptance was conditional on you remaining a member of good standing. This cuts so deeply you try and suppress it. All you want to do is forget – but how can you forget your family and friends?
IT HURTS to see the looks of hatred coming from the faces of those you love – to hear the deafening silence when you try and talk to them. It cuts deeply when you try and give your child a hug and they stand like a statue, pretending you aren’t there. It stabs like a knife when you know your spouse looks upon you as demonized and teaches your children to hate you.
IT HURTS to know you must start all over again. You feel you have wasted so much time. You feel betrayed, disillusioned, suspicious of everyone including family, friends and other former members.
IT HURTS when you find yourself feeling guilty or ashamed of what you were – even about leaving them. You feel depressed, confused, lonely. You find it difficult to make decisions. You don’t know what to do with yourself because you have so much time on your hands now – yet you still feel guilty for spending time on recreation.
IT HURTS when you feel as though you have lost touch with reality. You feel as though you are “floating” and wonder if you really are better off and long for the security you had in the organization and yet you know you cannot go back.
IT HURTS when you feel you are all alone – that no one seems to understand what you are feeling. It hurts when you realize your self confidence and self worth are almost non-existent.
IT HURTS when you have to front up to friends and family to hear their “I told you so” whether that statement is verbal or not. It makes you feel even more stupid than you already do – your confidence and self worth plummet even further.
IT HURTS when you realize you gave up everything for the cult – your education, career, finances, time and energy – and now have to seek employment or restart your education. How do you explain all those missing years?
IT HURTS because you know that even though you were deceived, you are responsible for being taken in. All that wasted time…….. at least that is what it seems to you – wasted time.THE PAIN OF GRIEF
Leaving a cult is like experiencing the death of a close relative or a broken relationship. The feeling is often described as like having been betrayed by someone with whom you were in love. You feel you were simply used.
There is a grieving process to pass through. Whereas most people understand that a person must grieve after a death etc, they find it difficult to understand the same applies in this situation. There is no instant cure for the grief, confusion and pain. Like all grieving periods, time is the healer. Some feel guilty, or wrong about this grief. They shouldn’t — It IS normal. It is NOT wrong to feel confused, uncertain, disillusioned, guilty, angry, untrusting – these are all part of the process. In time the negative feelings will be replaced with clear thinking, joy, peace, and trust.YES – IT HURTS BUT THE HURTS WILL HEAL WITH TIME, PATIENCE & UNDERSTANDING
There is life after the cult.
(copyright (c) Jan Groenveld)
Update: It appears that the situation is not as clear as we first thought. TB Joshua explains the situation in his usual obtuse way here (leaving us none the wiser), for full context see this video (it starts just before the 1hr mark). We still believe the evidence points to him having actually left, but time will tell. In any case, he needs support and prayers – either for help piecing his life back together on the outside, or for strength and opportunity to make the break and get out of SCOAN.

40 thoughts on “Messages of support for Wiseman John Chi

  1. It is good to come out of all religions into the Kingdom of God where God is God and man is man. Congratulations to him and all are planning to come out of all religions and who have come out according to the call in Revelation 18:4. This is obedience to the call of God!
    When one comes out of religion the spirit of religion will follow and torment and fight against them to throw them of focus just like the Pharisees and religious leaders were against Jesus Christ and His disciples. Will everyone else obey the divine call in Revelation 18:4?

    • tb Joshua said today, that the congregation should pray more for him, then for John chi, because “tb joshua needed the prayers more”!? So tb Joshua even directs the prayers and compassion of the people, for his own benefit. It must be a shocking journey for John Chi, to discover that there is no mention about the hard work he dit, the great selfless service towards God and scoan, and his tremendous dedication and eagerness, is just put aside, as a revelation “that had to happen”. TB Joshua mentioned, that a vew years ago, God had revealed to him that one wise-men would “drop”. He said that John Chi is down, and believes he will restore. From what? John Chi; you are in Gods hands, He loves you deeply. And I will pray for you, until you are recoverd. amen.

  2. Hi John Chi
    I left scoan after being involved for ten years and speak from experience when I say that there is life beyond SCOAN. When I first left, it felt as though TBJ could see everything I was doing, as if I was somehow cursed. But that is the biggest lie! TBJ has no hold on you and no power over you. Jesus is Lord & I believe anyone who leaves on their own accord, does so because they seek to follow Jesus and no longer want to give TBJ lordship over their lives. Jesus has rescued you and will continue to guide you and protect you. Take time out to find yourself, to forgive yourself and to come to terms with how unconditionally God loves you and desires you – not for what you can do but simply for who you are – His son, His creation. That is the basis of His relationship with us, that He first loved us, first found us.

    You have taken a huge step in letting go of all TBJ’s claims of fame for your life and false promises and have instead chosen Jesus. God will surely honour that. In a few years time you will look back and be in a better place, nearer to God, His grace, peace and love. The endless pursuit after an intangible purpose will instead be replaced with stillness and quiet confidence in God, your Guide and Comfort. It gets better my dear friend and it gets happy. You will laugh again and experience closeness, trust and frienship with people that God puts in your life. This is beauty, this is God’s doing and this is wellbeing – knowing that you are loved by God, by others and by yourself. This is the healing and wholeness which enables us to find roots in God’s steadfast love and mercy.

    I rejoice in your freedom and mourn with you at your hurt right now. The scars will remain, but they hurt less and teach much.

    Much love
    Emma

  3. To Wiseman John Chi:

    John, know that you have a great support system behind you. We love you, and are we are praying for you.

    We praise God and rejoice for your FREEDOM at last, may the Name of the ALMIGHTY GOD be praised, HE ALONE DESERVE ALL THE HONOR FOR YOUR FREEDOM.

    I thank you LORD Jesus Christ for this deliverance, for breaking the gates of brass and cutting in sunder the bars of iron (Isaiah 45:2).

  4. Dear Wiseman John Chi. I don’t know you, as I have never been deceived by SCOAN or the man who calls himself “prophet” TB Joshua. But I applaud you, my brother, for following the Lord’s voice despite the pain that I am sure you are experiencing and will yet experience.

    Please know that the many of us, your true brothers and sisters in the Lord, who can see the truth of SCOAN and TB Joshua, we will not believe any of the lies they will now no doubt begin to circulate about you.

    Stay close to the Lord, brother. Do not lose heart or give up what you have fought so hard to now gain. Our Jesus, who was lied about, mocked, slandered, punished, tortured, even crucified, knows the Truth about you.

    And what Jesus says about you is all that matters. If what others say does not line up with His words – then they are wrong, not you.

    May you know the loving and tender embrace of our Lord Jesus, and may he strengthen your legs and arms for the journey – and maybe the spiritual fight – ahead.

    Grace and peace to you.

    • I don’t know….but I wouldn’t trust any video that comes out of scoan. its pretty easy to record something and no one would know if it was today, yesterday, or tomorrow.

  5. My prayer for John Chi is that he finds people who demonstrate the love of God to him and that he can find the peace the passes all understanding and the resurrection power of Jesus.

  6. @ John Chi,

    Thank you for making the right choice, we hope that you can receive any counselling if needed. I came out too and have been believing in you to do the right thing in your life. I hope your fellow wiseman will do the same as you have done.

    God bless you, be strong, trust God for any answer in your life now and I wish you all the good things that God has for you, now and in the future. Perhaps one day our paths can cross again and you and I can share all God’s blessings and love together.

    Your brother and friend in The Lord Jesus Christ, Jesse,

  7. There is definitely more to this! I’ll rather let the truth come, even with the whole truth at hand, I am no judge so I can only pray for John Chi that he finds peace, comfort and friendship in Christ Jesus the one and only unconditional friend. It does not matter whether he left on differences of opinions, principle or a falling out with the SCOAN. I believe every man is the architect and builder of his/her own destiny. So John, do just is best for you, don’t continue to relive any experiences, just look forward and run as fast as you can to turn a new page and live a full live.

  8. Whatever that has happened for a reason, God is not away from you, we will always pray for you, because you are our favourite wise man, God is with you and our prayers are unto the Lord.

  9. John Chi, you have proven yourself wise by coming out of the cult known as SCOAN. Put yourself in the arms of Jesus, your great high priest – the one and only true messiah and mediator between man and God. I pray that you will have all the support you need from friends and family as you make your adjustment to reality.

    Hebrews 4:14 – 16
    14 Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

  10. John Chi,
    The Lord Jesus Christ loves you very much and He know what you, His humble servant, have offered up for Him in scoan. He knows you. Every hair on you head. He knows how and why you left. We also know that what tbj is saying on Emman TV is most probably not the truth. I thank Him, Jesus, our Lord for delivering you from that place, scoan.
    We have prayed for you long and hard and will continue to pray for you. We identify with your hurts, disillusionments, anguishes, confusions and that your souls is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death, but remember Jesus loves you very much. He died to save you and will not abandon you now. He will not leave you nor forsake you ever.
    Remember that you are privileged to go through what Jesus, your Lord and Master went through, when He was on this earth.
    He was rejected and killed in the house of His friends.
    Jesus said to his disciples before He was crucified by the very people he loved;

    “MY SOUL IS OVERWHELMED WITH SORROW TO THE POINT OF DEATH” ……………
    – Mathew 26:38.

    And then AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN APPEARED TO HIM AND STRENGTHENED HIM AND BEING IN ANGUISH HE PRAYED MORE EARNESTLY AND HIS SWEAT WAS LIKE DROPS OF BLOOD FALLING TO THE GROUND – Phil 3:8-10

    “I pray that you do not think it strange concerning the fiery trials which are to try you, as though some strange things happened, BUT THAT YOU WILL REJOICE TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU PARTAKE OF CHRIST’S SUFFERING, THAT WHEN HIS GLORY IS REVEALED, YOU MAY ALSO BE GLAD WITH EXCEEDING JOY” – 1 Peter 4:12-13.
    We all love you.

  11. And John Chi,
    I pray that your eyes will see this email. Please do not go back. Tbj will try all his clever tricks now to get you to go back, to protect his reputation. Be alert; he will get anyone he can to spy on you to give him info about your state and he will try to lure you back with every trick in his book. Be careful. He will even try the spiritual side eg astral projection and appearing in your dream. Take heart and know there will be a lot of people interceding for you.

  12. Where ever you are and whatevever you might be think, remember God loves you no matter who you are, what you did. He still loves you and bares no crudges about your past. Come to Him with all your heart and soul and you will be amazed as to how He will bless you and wash your garments back to white as snow. I can state my joy.Only God can understand me. I don’t need to know you. We are all brothers in God’s Kingdom. Stay blessed. We will be praying for you.

  13. my beloved wise one u are still loved ,may the love of jesus christ and felloship of the holy spirit be with u! i love everything abt the scoan people GOD BLESS U.

  14. Soldier on Johnny dear, yu are a blessed man of God. Life continues in Christ. I pray for you & your ministry. GOD knows your pain & struggles, don’t give up for He wont gve up on you.

  15. Whatever you do, stay close to the LORD for HE knows your end from the beginning. Be obedient as HE leads you to the path of righteousness for HIS name sake.

  16. @ John Chi
    Did you know what Deuteronomy 18:22 actually says? “When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; YOU SHALL NOT BE AFRAID OF HIM” I hope by now you know the many prophesies that T B Joshua has uttered which have not come to pass. He is presumptuous, and the Lord God says “Do not be afraid of him.” The Lord our God is a fortress, a present help in time of need. Psalm 18:2 says: “The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.” Do not be afraid of T B Joshua, he is a MERE man, worse, he is a charlatan, he cannot harm you. You can find a sure refuge in the Lord our God through Jesus Christ His Son.

  17. This is what the LORD says: “Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the LORD. Jeremiah 17:5

    John dear, you are free from curse.

  18. Keep the messages of support coming, but a quick reminder – ONLY messages of support for John Chi will be approved, this thread is not for critiquing TB Joshua, supporting him or debating – keep that to other posts please!

  19. John Chi, it is my prayer that these reports are the truth, and that you are out of SCOAN entirely. If you have been sent away for punishment of some type, be truly wise and do not return. I’m sure you know the physical and spiritual humiliation you will be put through, videotaped for the sick pleasure of the self-righteous at SCOAN.

    It is very difficult to heal from cult involvement. More difficult yet if you have been in a leadership position in a cult. I pray that you will be truly wise and cling to Jesus alone, not relying on TBJ or on your position in his “church” for your salvation.

    May you be blessed, protected, and healed. May Almighty God and our Savior Jesus Christ break the chains that “the god of TBJ” has wrapped around you, so that you may be free indeed!

    • John chi has gone to adaba. People must help him out. If he is really out he must start his ministry and get married. People must help him it that area of his life

      • Yes,gev,u are just right,abt jc.he must start his church in comeroun his home country im sure that’s why he has left, god bless him I wish I would have samway where I can write to him I had this prophet in 2011,

  20. I wish you all the best as you embark on a new life.God loves you and you have not betrayed Him.there are many of us praying for you.

  21. So lets wait till the coming sunday, as Tb Joshua will shed more light about this subject.. aw man pray for them..

    • Wow, this is really a lame site. I posted a Link where Tb Joshua actually explains the situation, and will shed more light about it on sunday. Yet the link is not shown, which means you guys moderated it. This already shows who is pulling the strings.

      Somebody doesn’t want the truth to be heared but when accusations need to be given…. those people are standing on the front row. Good luck with your rubbish.

      If you want the truth to be out and to be heared that you people claim TB joshua is fake, at least allow everyone to post some constructive comments without moderating it. And this will probably be moderated also, which i hope not, but we will see…

      Someone from the Netherlands..

      • As we said before, this thread is purely for messages of support for John Chi, not discussing the situation (a discussion of the situation has been going on under this post). We have lots of posts unapproved on this thread, both supportive of TBJ and critical. However – you’re right – the video is relevant so we will add it to the post as an update.

  22. Know that I for one liked and still likes you a lot and hope the holy spirit be with you all the way.I love u

  23. John Chi,
    Let the Word of our loving Lord encourage you in your time if discipline under tbj,

    2 Corinthians 4:16-18

    Therefore do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.
    Jeremiah 29:11
    “For I know the plans I have for you John Chi,” says the Lord. “They are plans for good and not for bad disaster, to give you a future and a hope.”
    Romans 8:28
    And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them.
    Romans 8:38-39
    And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate you from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demon’s nor tbj and his disciples, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.
    Isaiah 40:31
    But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

  24. well done john chi! now you will know what freedom is. Don’t worry about all this mumbo jumbo about tb Joshua coming to get you, or curses now you have left, or ‘missing out’ on something God has for you….I’ve had a fantastic life, ups and downs, since I have left, and have a far more honest time with the Lord

  25. John chi leave that prison called scoan if you are still there go and start a good ministry.you are a good preacher. You will overcame.

  26. John chi hold on. put your trust in jesus alone. I read that when he was delivering people he was delived by evil spirit because of lack of following instruction by his spiritual guide?? Does that mean that he is possess ay evil spirit? Source : comment from nairaland-forum, religion-nairaland , scoan wise man jhon chi is dropped.

  27. kali, nairaland-forum is it God’s spirit to admit whatever they say to be truth?Dont be deceived, if you follow what medias report everyday ,you may be lost.
    Listen to the voice of God only, it will guide you to the truth.
    John Chi, God be with you.

  28. @emmanuel. I hope it is well with john chi. Thank you but because you wacth emmanuel tv please correct and tell us exactly what tbjoshua said about john

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