Must watch documentary: Seeds of Sin

A reader recently sent us a link to a documentary by Kenyan investigative journalist Dennis Okari. In his own words:

What you are about to watch is not an attack on sincerely held beliefs of the decent church goer. It is an attempt to expose the systematic and manipulative exploitation of the vulnerable people who are desperately seeking spiritual answers to their problems, but greedy individuals are ruining their lives, all in the name of God.

You couldn’t write a much better mission statement for TB Joshua Watch.

Although the documentary focuses only on Kenya’s own false pastors, there is a huge relevance to anyone following TB Joshua. For example:

There is very little difference between these “pastors” and TB Joshua. The only major difference is that TB Joshua has something of a following outside of Nigeria. For those of you who consider TB Joshua something special, watch this documentary, you will see Kenya has many little TB Joshua’s. The documentary also showed how easy it is for a charismatic individual to gain a following of people who see them as a man/woman of God.

On the whole, the documentary made for depressing viewing. Is this really where Christianity is going in Africa? However, it was very encouraging to see the Kenyan authorities taking this kind of fraud seriously, some of these “pastors” served jail time for their deceptions. Let’s hope Nigerian authorities start taking it as seriously in their country.

44 thoughts on “Must watch documentary: Seeds of Sin

  1. This campaign is all about TB Joshua, the same role That Judas played in the time of Jesus is the same role the author of this information is playing now. How much were you paid to do this shit! What exactly is your problem? The miracles he performs that anyone can verify or the prophecy he gives with precision? Or because he his not as fluency in the use of English language like your kind that confuses their followers with fake ascent and grammatical jargon in order to rip them off in the name of Tithe and other ridiculous church offerings. please, consider the number of your days and how much you have left before you face your creator where you will give account of the number of souls you have diverted from salvation to God knows where. God is watching. -YE

    • TB Joshua = Jesus
      TB Joshua Watch = Judas

      Not the first time we’ve heard that, but it still amazes and amuses us each time. Not quite as funny as claiming he does verifiable miracles and precise prophecies though 😀

    • Lol. YE. Do you see any donate buttons on this page? This blog isn’t even monetized with ads. Nobody’s trying to steal your “tithe” from TBJ. You should look at the money *he’s* taking in, perhaps.
      TBJ is not Jesus. He is also not salvation. To say either of those things is actual blasphemy. Your claims that his prophecies are precise and your trust in his “miracles” is downright amusing.
      What this documentary points out is that TBJ is nothing special. Each of these shysters’ followers think they are “THE prophet”. Each group thinks their prophet is the one who does the greatest miracles “like no other” and has power “like no other”. They blind themselves to the fact that there are hundreds, if not thousands of men and women committing the same blasphemies and selling the same “miracle water” and making the same claims. The only unique thing about TBJ is that he figured out social media marketing better than the rest. But they will soon catch up.

      • This blog isn’t even monetized with ads

        Correct. The same can’t be said for the various anti-TB Joshua Watch blogs, but of course we’re the ones in it for the money! 😉

      • Hilarity is what comes out of this blog. Im Kenyan and trust me when i tell you this false pastors have absolutely nothing in common with TB Joshua…how can you be so naive…but then again i dont blame you.

    • @TBJW
      I tried many times to expose some of your lies in “TB Joshua and deliverance. Is it biblical?” page but you refused me again an entry.Do you fear something from me???

      • Your comments have been going straight into trash ever since we banned you over a year ago. We banned you for flooding our site with very similar comments (even after your concerns had been addressed), not engaging in any dialogue and generally bringing down the quality of conversation. If you think we banned you because we were afraid of the truth you were speaking, that’s actually hilarious! I will remove your name from the block list, but please try and actually converse with people rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

    • 1 Corinthians 13:4-5
      Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not
      proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily
      angered, it keeps no record of wrongs

  2. Wonderful documentary! It is great to see Africans calling out Africans on this issue, because that removes the (ridiculous) claims that objecting to these false teachers is “racism.” No. Africans are perfectly capable of wisdom and discernment and I am glad to see some of them courageously speaking out against fraudsters and false prophets.

  3. This video is just a conformation of how much T.B. Joshua is a true man of God. The simple fact that he is not included in the video is evidence enough. Do you know how many Kenyan’s go to T.B. Joshua’s church every week.? T.B. Joshua is more popular in Kenya then the preachers in this video, but yet he is not included. They criticized pastors from Kenya to America. They criticized anointing water from other pastors, but they didn’t mention T.B. Joshua’s anointing water. Why? Because they know T.B. Joshua is a true man of God and his anointing water is real. If they thought T.B. Joshua was the same as these fake pastors they would have surely included him. It would have even made their story even bigger. They know that T.B. Joshua doesn’t charge money for healing and they know that many people from their country can testify to being healed at the scoan. The problem for you is that there are more people that can testify to being healed and delivered by Jesus Christ, through T.B. Joshua than you or anyone else can discredit. You can continue to lie all you want, but you can never give a person who was cured of cancer by, Jesus Christ through T.B. Joshua cancer again.

    • You can continue to lie all you want, but you can never give a person who was cured of cancer by, Jesus Christ through T.B. Joshua cancer again.

      Do you personally know anyone who has been healed by TB Joshua? I don’t mean people you heard about on Emmanuel TV, but people you know first hand? I do, and they’re all dead, and they probably wouldn’t be if they had trusted their doctor over TB Joshua. You can call me a liar if you like, but I hope you wouldn’t call the grieving families liars. Based on my experience, TB Joshua has a 0% success rate with healing cancer. Giles, who comments on this site lost his mother to cancer, after she was “healed” by TB Joshua. You can also read about Anna, a woman I knew who also died of cancer after being “healed” by TB Joshua.

      As for why he is not in this video, it’s because he is not Kenyan. They only mentioned American preachers because America is the origin of this damaging teaching, the documentary didn’t mention preachers from any other African nation. If you want to make an argument from silence, be my guest – but it won’t be a very convincing one!

      • hey,u must be spending 22 hrs out of 24 watching Emmanuel tv;the remaining 2 hrs eat and sleep what a tough life???keep watching Emmanuel tv ,one day you will see light

      • I also know several people here in my country who went to his meetings, came back and are now dead. Some are very well known including former government ministers.

    • @ Read a Bible
      “This video is just a conformation of how much T.B. Joshua is a true man of God. The simple fact that he is not included in the video is evidence enough.”
      You are very naive (and a bit deluded) to think that just because tbj is not mentioned in the video that he is a man of GOD. There are myriad of false teachers not mentioned in this video. Does that make them true men of GOD?

      “They criticized pastors from Kenya to America.”
      You exaggerate here. They criticized Kenyan pastors and a couple of American ones (mainly Popoff).

      This video is obviously catering to the Kenyan and is warning Kenyans about the wolves in their country. I commend them for their investigations. They were unbiased and very fair in their assessment of the nonsense and crimes perpetrated by these so-called ‘prophets’ and ‘apostles’. It was clearly shown that even non-believers can, with the right tools, con anyone desperate enough to listen to them. It amazes me that you cannot see this. I’m also amazed that you cannot see the tbj parallels.

      • haha. But are we surprised that the poster exaggerated? No. It’s a classic move from SCOAN followers.
        And you are so right in your assessment. It was a Kenyan creation, made for Kenyans. Rather than proving that TBJ is a “real Man of God” it simply proves how insignificant he is. He is one among thousands upon thousands of false preachers. His followers, like the followers of all the others, inflate his importance so that they can feel special about following “THE prophet.”

  4. 2 Corinthians 2:17
    17 You see, we are not like those hucksters — and there are many of them — who preach just to make money. We preach God’s message with sincerity and with Christ’s authority. And we know that the God who sent us is watching us.
    A huckster or a peddler or hawker is – One who uses aggressive, showy, and sometimes devious methods to promote or sell a product I internet definition.

  5. Hello. It’s my first time here. I first stumbled into this blog about a couple or so years ago. At the time I was watching Emmanuel TV almost daily, especially Sunday afternoons after my church service. I did believe then that Temitope Balogun Joshua was being used by God. So, going through the comments and post on TB Joshua Watch I thought they were jealous of the ‘Servant of God’.
    But God being God, it so happened that early 2013 as I was watching a deliverance session, I began to wonder, “how is this contributing positively to my Christian life?” Watching people rolling, screaming, being embarrassed, told that they ‘bed-wet’ they ‘have weak erection’ the list is endless. All in the name of deliverance… “Deliverance from what?” What value is being added to my Christian life by watching this so-called deliverance?” I switched channels.
    I prayed about it, I remembered the Word of God in John 8:31-32, (Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”)
    If I need to be delivered from anything whatsoever, anger, unforgiveness, poverty, etc. all I need to do is go into God’s Word prayerfully – God’s Word is the Ultimate Truth – and it certainly can and shall set me free.
    Although this might anger his followers, this gentleman is not of God or from God. I pray to God that those who so much believe in him could allow God to open their eyes so that they be truly delivered. Just pray about it and ask God to reveal His truth to you, what could you possibly lose?

    • Praise God for the truth! I’m so glad you are free Unagoni!
      Yes, who do we need for salvation other than Jesus Christ? No-one! And we certainly do not need the titilating, hyped-up “deliverance” circuses to build up our spiritual lives. I do not see how anyone can watch those continually unless they enjoy watching the suffering and humiliation of others. it speaks to the goodness of your character that you listened when your concience began to poke at you about this.

  6. One thing I have observed here is that most of Mr. Temitope Joshua’s followers seem to be full of anger, lots of it! e.g. In YE’s comment posted on February 10, 2014 at 10:31 hours, he says, “ How much were you paid to do this shit! What exactly is your problem?” The s*** word sounds too much for me. What one wonders is what could possibly be the cause for the anger? If someone could say my pastor is not a true man of God, one thing I’m sure of is I would not try to ‘defend’ him. WHY? Because I have not been called to follow my pastor, but follow Jesus Christ and live a live that would preach this Jesus to others.
    Now the question is how does one, who considers themselves a follower of Christ / Christian live a life that is a testimony to others, especially those who do not know Christ?
    The answer is in Galatians 5:22-25 But the fruit of the Spirit is;
    love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
    kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    gentleness, self-control.
    Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
    I urge all who choose (yes we do choose to comment in blogs such as this one, no one is holding a gun to our heads) to comment here to do it representing the Christ they have received in their hearts. Show, love, show self-control, show gentleness. Before one posts something filled with angry insults, ask yourself why you are angry.
    Also let us remember that the same Galatians 5 in verses 19-21 clearly explains the works of the flesh…
    Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are:
    adultery, fornication, uncleanness,
    lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred,
    contentions, jealousies,
    outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions,
    dissensions, heresies, envy, murders,
    drunkenness, revelries, and the like;
    of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    Brethren, as children of God, you have a responsibility to, amongst others, avoid outbursts of wrath (angry outbursts). Speak civilly. The administrators of this blog are alleging that Mr. Temitope Joshua is not God as he claims and he has led many people to death because of his wrong teachings. They have provided evidence to this. What is there to anger anyone? Why not disprove what they are alleging without getting angry and calling them children of the devil? Mr. Joshua is a human being like the rest us, he is not God, he can go wrong, he can be corrected, he can repent, if he so wishes. Let us address the issue at hand.
    If anybody ‘attacked’ my pastor, I would pray for them, not get angry. If anybody attached my God, my Jesus, I would still not get angry. My God is the creator of all things, and all things are subject to Him; He can defend Himself if need be. So whichever way, don’t angry, address the facts. They say a lie, even if it can be told such that it’s truer than the truth, the truth will eventually win! Let the truth win, not anger…
    I promise I will be brief next time…

    • Amen! Keep talking, don’t worry about brevity!
      The anger and bitterness is a common thread among SCOAN respondants here and is very, very revealing.

    • Scoan is not preaching about THe Kingdom of God at all. This is the mean fact of all their troubled actions. The dont even bring the people at the door of The Kingdom. Thats why their services dont contribute to anything of value, only irritation and false hope for the better. They say;coame to Jezus, so you will be saved. The moment you give in, and expect to be part of the new life in Christ, in the light, they start to bombarding the people with casting out their demons, questionable deliverances, and moral indoctrinated sermons, anoiting waters that replace the blood of Jezus, faith-building-bracelets, stickers for protection, and mass-prayers to save the Nations. In the Scoan-doctrine sins are not forgiven yet, and the new life and favour has to wait a litlle while, until all the imagenated dirt is cased out. This can takes years. This is their up-lifting stragedy, to keep the show going. No, TB Joshua can not be corrected. He is not in The Kingdom of God either. If he should be, he would have a different approuch. Tb Joshua releases powers, set free by activating The Word., and using the Name of Jezus. Thats all. There is no presence of God, nor The Holy Spirit in it. It is only Anoiting power by Faith. It is not the Grace and Glory of God., set free by revelation and Gods free movement.

    • Unanogi you are a really well-spoken person. If anyone argues with what you just said then they’re blind. Thanks man.

  7. Pls @jesse I will like to speak to you about something private. Can u pls drop ur email addy do we cud talk?

    • @ M.e.a,
      Sorry, but no can do. Too many try to get in contact with me and I have not the ability nor interest to deal with anyone than in my own environment where I can assess and research of what is in front of me. I am not afraid nor scared or anything concerning that. It is only that my trust is damaged forever concerning anything SCOAN, certain ministers, leaders and certain people.

  8. Nobody likes to admit that he or she has been conned/deceived. In your Bible it is warned that Satan wants to con you out of your most precious possession and his goal is to be worshipped like God.
    For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isaiah 14:13-14 KJV
    Do you recognize Satan’s greatest deceptions and how you can avoid them?
    Our world is filled with con artists, liars and thieves who seek to defraud and deceive us. But the Bible warns us about the greatest deceiver of all Satan the Devil and his demons as well those that have sold their lives and soul to him. Are you aware of his and their tactics? Are you prepared to avoid his schemes, or could you fall victim to his deceptions ? Or even use them to mislead people who are not aware that they have been taken for a spin to destruction.
    We have all heard stories about crooked salesmen who do their best to defraud senior citizens and rob them of their life’s savings. We know about corrupt businessmen who use false accounting to cheat investors and avoid taxes. You may have experienced thieves breaking into your home and robbing you of your possessions.
    But did you know that there is a thief who wants to rob you of the most valuable possession of your eternal life, salvation and your future as a child of God? This thief works through deceptive practices, tricks and helpers, from selfish vanity to pride to dangerous occultism, seeking to turn people away from the truth and from the way of life that will bring true happiness God’s way.
    Here are some of the clear Deceptions:
    1. False Doctrine and deliberate deception.
    2. Lust, Greed and Envy.
    3. Pride, Vanity and Arrogance.
    4. Lying and using authoritative leaders to indoctrinate you to submit to them.
    5. False Dreams, Visions, Prophesies and “Miracles”.
    6. Bitterness or the creating of Bitterness in you by hurting you on purpose.
    7. Lack of Faith.Sowing doubt in you by telling deceptive stories of what you want to hear.
    8. Twisting the Word of God and of what you personally have spoken or written.
    9. Anger. Arousing anger in you by manipulating you and frustrating you.
    10.Using God’s anointing and use it for personal gain and advantage.
    Do you all know that Satan, the devil, deceives the WHOLE world! It is written:
    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Revelation 12:9 KJV
    That means the people of every tribe and nation. That means you and me and everyone else.Think you are not deceived, think again !
    Revelation 16:14 KJV For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
    I have been deceived in the past. You have been deceived. Will you continue to be deceived ? But, thankfully, God calls us out of this world’s deception, through the true Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
    Colosians 2:8 KJV Beware lest ANY man (yes, that includes TB Joshua and his wisemen or anybody) spoil you through philosophy and VAIN deceit, after the TRADITION of men, after the RUDIMENTS of the world, and not after Christ.
    Buried with him IN baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Colossians 2:12-15 KJV

  9. Brilliant and well researched. Perhaps the most saddening thing about this is that in spite of such videos and information, people will still be duped. This reminds me of another very sad and tragic documentary that takes this whole thing to extremes. The tragic story of the Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments in Uganda that culminated in the deaths of somewhere between 900 and 2,000 people (official counting was discontinued due to financing for the exhumation of the bodies and when the whole process became a health hazzard).
    My point is best summed by a quote I lift from one of the officials from government in the documentary whose link is posted below. He said “when you have the lethal combination of poverty and ignorance, tragedies like this one we witness today are very difficult to prevent”. What great truth you have here.
    If only people could stop being so gullible and actually read their Bibles, seek God, pray to Jesus and stop venerating the men or women of God (who are just servants by the way), then we would perhaps have less of such things. I am glad that the Kenyan authorities have at least tried to intervene, in my country its still free-for-all and we have dogdy “Prophets” by the dozens with all the theatrics you can imagine. Television has not helped but instead has magnified their larger-than-life personas and turned them into demigods.
    Very sad indeed.
    Here’s the link on the documentary about the movement that saw the all time greatest cult tragedy in Africa.

  10. Ha ha ha ha ha ha You people are funny you know ..Do you think we are that stupid to believe this rubbish Nop..Keep trying guyz I see you have all the time in the world….You dont have any better things to do…….Prophet TB Joshua is God sent I know you know that too thats why you want to pull him down…Let me tell you your problem…The reason why u guyz are always saying bad things about the prophet but his ministry always growing day by day is because you are fighting the wrong person. TB joshua is defended by God so if u want to take TB J down u have to pass by Jehovah first …other wise forget….You arejust passing time here

  11. @Openminded, what bad things are being said about Mr. Joshua? Like I have said before only facts are being stated here. Mr. Joshua is not God, and he is not of God, he is operating a cult down there in Nigeria. Read Acts 16:16-18.
    How does God want us to discern His will for our lives? God’s simple, yet very powerful way is for us to study His Word (the Holy Bible) prayerfully. (2 Timothy 3:16-17).. And pray for wisdom (James 1:5)

  12. Salut.many have been praying for john want to know more about him so that you reset your prayers? Meet apostle john chi Then click on:interview. He is talking with so much respect about tbjoshua. Enjoy

  13. If you would live at the time of Apostle Paul you “Lodge of TB Joshua watch” hear me, you would accuse Apostle Paul of being Jesus and even Angel for sure because he wrote :
    And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus. Galatians 4:14 .
    Repent you lodge TB Joshua watch from your slanders !!!! You sink yourself in your own slanders. You messy yourself in your own unclean judgements indeed.

  14. @ leil wake up, stop worshipping Joshua!
    TB Johua Watch are not hypocrites. Scroll up and read my post of February 11, 2014 at 3:08 pm and also Jesses’s post of February 11, 2014 at 10:57pm. Only Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour, NOT Joshua! T
    Tell me, what do you think TB Joshua Watch stand to gain by exposing the lies that you people are led to believe at SCAN? The Lord have mercy on people like you and open your spiritual eyes.

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