TB Joshua loves Boko Haram

TB Joshua is as happy as a kid in a candy store right now. As Boko Haram commits deplorable act after deplorable act as a way of drawing attention to their ideology, TB Joshua piggy backs on these deplorable acts in order to draw attention to himself (let’s face it, TB Joshua’s ideology is TB Joshua).

Look at the following list of shocking exploitation of this national tragedy.

  1. Setting up an obviously fake stunt* where a “Boko Haram member who has come to bomb SCOAN” gets delivered by TB Joshua.
  2. Exploiting the 14th April Abuja bombing by claiming he predicted it, editing out the part in the original video where he claims it will happen before the middle of December 2013.
  3. Marketing his blasphemous anointed water in the aftermath of the bombing (a man confidently reads from a script testifying how his car was blown up in the bomb killing all except him, his demeanor gives no hint that a few days before he was supposedly surrounded by dead and dismembered bodies).
  4. Exploiting the 1st May Abuja bombing, again releasing an edited video claiming he predicted it.
  5. Exploiting the appalling kidnapping of over 200 schoolgirls by repeating news commentary dressed up as prophecy.
  6. Raising the hopes of the schoolgirls parents by assuring them that “unless I’m not called by God, I place my career and my calling on the line, that this 200+ schoolchildren have to be released immediately.” on the 3rd May.
  7. Performing a second fake “Boko Haram member captured and delivered at SCOAN” stunt.

TB Joshua claims to be a powerful prophet who has predicted all kinds of international events. Why is it he can’t locate the school girls? Maybe the authorities wouldn’t have taken the advice of a Nigerian prophet seriously in the Malaysian airlines crisis, but in Nigeria everyone would sit up and listen if he revealed their location. TB Joshua claims his anointed water protects you from fire and bullets, casts out demons and diseases. Why can’t it deliver schoolgirls from captivity?

What we’ve seen with both the MH370 disaster and the Boko Haram crisis is that TB Joshua’s so called “prophetic ministry” is no help at all in a complex situation. If there is a simple and contained crisis like a shooting in America, he can easily deliver an edited prophecy claiming he predicted it. When a situation gets complex and when someone with genuine insight could actually be of real help, TB Joshua falls way off the mark.

One thing to remember here is TB Joshua’s own words “unless I’m not called by God, I place my career and my calling on the line, that this 200+ schoolchildren have to be released immediately.” This was said 10 days ago and counting. Everyday his credibility is fading.

Pray for these poor schoolgirls and their parents. It’s impossible to understand what they’re going through, but God knows. Trust that they will find comfort and the girls will know freedom. Pray that both Boko Haram and TB Joshua will repent of their evil schemes and find salvation through the cross of Jesus Christ.

* Before anyone points it out, we’re aware that TB Joshua has now claimed that the first Boko Haram member captured at SCOAN is now in police custody and has been confirmed as a genuine member, but please remember TB Joshua is the only source of this information, and he’s not exactly known for his honesty. The only semi-official response from the authorities dismissed the whole event as fake.

139 thoughts on “TB Joshua loves Boko Haram

  1. Your so called “facts” are bias, baseless, and flat out lies. Don’t worry, if God is truly with TB Joshua you people will continue to stay busy writing article after article trying to discredit him, but if he is not of God as you say then you should start looking for another day job because he will fail. I mean, one has to think with all the effort you have put into this site why is it that TB Joshua’s ministry continues to grow more and more to the glory of God?

      • TBJ Watch:

        Every time that TB Joshua or one of so called wisemen open their mouth, they say something unbiblical. Having exposed his fakeness, it is time to focus on the Biblical errors of these snake oil salesmen. Those charged with ridding the world of counterfeit money focus on the real money and therefore can spit a fake bill easily. God’s people suffer from lack of knowledge of the Word. May God bless and strengthen you folks as you expose wolves in sheep’s clothing.

    • This is an inspired comment. God bless you promisecarrier. From a Zambian follower of T. B. Joshua Ministries.

      • You are the most foolish person on earth. Go and check T.B Joshua’s track record and see. He has a 100% prophecy accuracy. You just wrote up some lies and think everyone is as brainless and stupid like you to believe all the nonsense you wrote. If at all there is anyone who needs prayers, I think it’s your miserable soul that needs prayers!

  2. TB Joshua claims, that the Boko Haram-members are instructed by evil spirits. It means, that in the vision of TB Joshua, they can be delivered, as happened in scoan towards 2 of the members, and somehow miraculous being set free from the consequenses of thier evil deeds they did in the passed. It is not the first time, that people who where involved in crimes, become delivered in Scoan, without any form of trial and courd-case. Our system of Courd, is based on the Bibly laws. A criminal can ask for forgiveness and deliverance by a priest or pastor, but will still have to face the consequenses of his deeds by courd and righteous judgement. By the vision of TB Joshua, the Boko Haram-members who kidnapped the girls, who rape, mis-use, abuse and force to marrie them, are allowed to come to scoan and to be freed of their evil-spirits and can go-out free. It is against all humanly rights and spiritual laws. TB Joshua delivered before memebers of gangs, who robbed, steal, raped and killed, without any form of Justice by Law . Scoan is a paradize for the corrupted and criminal-minded evil-doer. It was the evil spirit who did the crime, Oh holy innocence! African justice is a jungle and so their churches.

      • @TBJW @Jamie

        What is the good point in this post (https://tbjoshuawatch.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/tb-joshua-loves-boko-haram/#comment-14939)? The bit saying TBJ encourages criminals, or the bit that seems to be Afro-pecimistic (what exactly is “African justice” and “African churches”? How does TBJ represent these?), to say the least?

        Can we try and avoid confusing things? As an African, TBJ does not represent neither my justice, nor my church.

        Thanks

      • Good question, there was a lot in Jamies post, not all of it we endorse 100%. The good point I was agreeing with is the tendency to blame everything on “demons”. E.g. “I didn’t sin, the demon made me do it.”

      • You guys are all STUPID!!, you are just confirming biblical prophecies. “Many shall rise against you for HIS sake”…get something better doing men and stop wasting your life

      • Hmmm,i know i m not allowed to say whatever i want like others do on this blog.So its ok with me whether you publish my comment or not.
        But let me ask you.So why do you blame TBJ about your beloved ones ?
        So in your perception,we should blame our own actions on people but never on demons or satan ?
        Do you see how you contradict yourselves!

      • Please stop misinforming people ok? Are u an agent of darkness? What has TB Joshua done to u? What would you achieve by blackmailing him? Repent and change your ways. Stop misleading all the naive and credulous people who visit your site. Keep your partisan opinion to your silly self. Get yourself a life. This site and the evil work you are doing will not take u anywhere. Instead it will invite misfortunes and miseries to you. A word is enough for the wise!

    • That is what bothered me when watching his latest sermon on this mess.

      While it’s grand that he’s urging his congregants not to go out and fight their neighbors, because Nigeria certainly doesn’t need sectarian rioting at this point, his demonology is whacko and totally extraBiblical. It’s not just with Boko Haram, but with ever sin. There is NO personal responsibility. People are unwittingly possessed, even from the womb, and operated like hand-puppets by demons. Men aren’t responsible for fornication or adultery, it’s either “seductive spirits” in women or a “spiritual wife” who cause them to rut like donkeys, completely against their will. According to SCOAN teaching, anyway. It’s ridiculous.

      The acts of Boko Haram are acts of willful sin and evil. The men who are killing, torturing, raping, etc. are 100% accountable for these actions and to fob it off on “demons” makes a mockery of the suffering of these girls, their families, and every other victim of these people.

      If we want to know the Christian way to address these crimes, we should look to Rwanda. Reconciliation comes when criminals and murderers confess their crimes, take ownership of their crimes, repent of their crimes, and actively make reparations for their crimes. Claiming that they are puppets of demons circumvents every one of those things and is totally inappropriate.

    • O’h scribes and Pharisees if you really means the court of Jesus Christ,then I think you should carefully study the book of John chapter 8, now consider vs 5, look at vs 7, then vs 9 says, went out one by one , beginning from the oldest ,and Jesus was left alone. Old law must step out allowing grace to judge.then give your full attention to vs 10 and 11. Down vs 12 if you follows this principles you shall not walk in darkness. We give thanksto God for the good works He is doing in this our generation.

    • They are always later handed over to the authorities, get your facts straight. You people just act on hearsay. for us who cherrish truth, we even travel all the way from Zambia to come and see for ourselves what others claim TBJ is able to do, and we find that not even quarter of the story is told.

    • no respect left to you as you are arrogant un colored stupid fag i only have midle finger for u, you share it with ur father satan

    • Can your hear your stupid self? I guess you are not a Christian. U sound more to me like an atheist. God is ready to forgive anyone their sins when they repent. No matter how grievous or heinous the are!

  3. I wonder ,I jst cant understand why a god of tb j is Hellín yo f
    eliz the skul girls.

  4. Anyone who doesn’t see this T B Joshua as a false prophet by now must have their head examined. The man has uttered so many false prophecies and that should tell anyone that he is a liar and a false prophet. Where is the missing Malaysian jet after TBJ claimed it has been found? Why is Boko Haram still active after TBJ claimed they would be silenced by 2011? What is the matter with all these people who claim to be “Christian,” but continue to defend a false prophet?

  5. Yes, he sure does love Boko Haram. They have provided an excellent distraction from his miserably failed plane prophecy.

    • Failed prophecy after failed prophecy makes T B Joshua the biggest false and deceitful prophet in Nigeria! Beware of false prophets,… for they shall deceive many. Matthew 7:15; 24:5,11,24.

      • Look an idiot quoting the bible! U know nothing Mr terrific. Pls change that name of urs to Mr Dunce

  6. @TBjoshuawatch,u re jst a frustrated fellow.u claim 2 knw d bible very wel bt u ve come across d verse dt says “thou shall not judge”dt whteva meaure use in judging another shall be used unto u…rememba u re going account 4 all d souls led astray with ur devilish posts….remenba d judge day…i ll urge u 2 stop dis blasphemy against prophet TB Joshua & watch urself…all ur posts re misleadingQuestion 4 u & i want an answer…did God asigned u 2 watch over prophet TB Joshua & his minstries?

    • Constance,
      The Bible commands Christians to warn their fellow Christians about deceitful workmen who come to lure them away from the true faith. This is what tbjwatch is assiduously doing. Tbjw is obeying a biblical command as ALL good Christians should. If you are a good Christian, you should do the same and expose the shameful works of darkness. Thanks.

      • @daemondada,bt can’t u see d more u ppl re trying 2 pull Prophet TB Joshua down d more God raises a standard against his enemies.rememba d same God said & i quote “touch nt my anionted & do my prophet no harm..tbjwatch is harmin d prophet of God &there is a great repercursion 4 dt..my bible said u shud remove d spike in ur own eyes 4 u 2 see clearly & remove d plank in anoda’s or dnt ur own bible ve dt verse..tbjwatch is nt a saint either .u ppl shud leave TB Joshua alone n watch urselves or beta stil rush down 2 scoan 4 ur deliverance cos dts wht u ppl need..is a good advice,take it & stop makin noise since u can’t help d situation

      • Bt tbjwatch sounds like a frustrated guy who was nt given a way in scoan bcos of his unrepented altitude bt whteva it may be pls leave prophet TB Joshua alone u re nt God.it s a case btw prophet TB Joshua & God nt tbjwatch

    • See, Constance, you know that phrase, but you don’t seem to understand the purpose of it.
      TBJWatch does not claim to be a prophet, and is not seeking fame and fortune by promoting heresy and making false prophecies. Therefore, that verse is completely inapplicable. TBJWatch is not being hypocritical. Because hypocrisy means condemning others for doing something you yourself do.
      The other point I would like to make is, any time you say that questioning TBJ is “blasphemy”, you yourself are committing a heinous blasphemy. In the context of Christian theology, the misbehavior of blaspheming is so horrendous because it is directed at God. It is not possible to “blaspheme” TBJ in that way. He is not God. He is not Jesus. He is not equal to Almighty God. If this is an issue with English, you followers of SCOAN might want to rethink your constant use of that word, because what you imply by using it is something very, very terrible. You imply that TBJ is equal to God, and calling him a heretic is the equivalent of blaspheming God.

    • Jesus also said “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.” (John 7:24)
      There are multiple commands in Scripture TO judge. To judge good from evil. Right from wrong. Heresy from truth. God does not have a problem with us using discernment. He only wants our judgments to be made righteously and without hypocrisy.

    • It id written:

      …”Let two or three prophets speak and let the others pass judgment”….1 Corinthians 14:29

  7. By the same concept, TB Joshua covers his own mis-stakes and mis-deeds. He just delivers him-self from the cause, and the victum needs some lessons in forgiveness and no-one will ever receive right and fair judgement and rectification. This kind of use of deliverance, excuses the prepator and makes a fair claim by the victum impossible. The concept denies the huge offering of Jezus on the Cross, for our sins. Our sins are forgiven, but we still have to deal with sin and repentance. The way TB Joshua presents deliverance is more likely a magician at work. Afirca is rooted in devil-worship and witch-craft-practizes. They have a deep understanding of the spirits-worlds. They can remove or add what-ever they want in a human-body. TB Joshua claims to co-operate with God, by His powers, still i never saw another god-man in the Spirit, working by the Holy Spirit, as TB Joshua does. The violence of the power, the strange manifestations, the wicked confessions, the humiliation of human dignity, it seem to be far from how Jezus would act His ressurected healing and deliverance-power.

  8. TBJWATCH,
    If you recall, I told folks that this missing girls crisis was the Moment of Truth for tbj. If he has overplayed his hand, then it’s all gonna come crashing down around him like a stack of cards. If he has changed, the girls will be home safe and sound. Fingers crossed we’ll get the latter. Safe.

  9. ALL,
    I am not gonna call tbj a false prophet because, as a Jew, it is not a light thing to do such to anyone. The measures taken to arrive at the conclusion that someone is a false prophet are rigorous and exhaustive and in almost all cases requires an unreserved admission to being a false prophet or a blasphemous statement by the accused himself/herself before a false prophet/prophetess can be ascertained as one. We are not the ones who called tbj. We are not the ones to punish him. Hymaenus and Alexander were handed over to Satan by Apostle Paul in order to be taught not to blaspheme/deceive the brethren even though they themselves were Christians. As I have said some time ago, an apostle is the only officer in the Body of Christ who can bear the enormous task of bringing tbj back to earth and dealing with this interminable conflict once and for all in the same manner with which Paul dealt with Peter’s error as per the circumcision of the Gentiles with Paul being an apostle as Peter was. Be safe y’all.

    • At least there exists One tbjwatch followers who seems too wiser.
      Daemondada,thank you,I m very delighted by your comments .

    • T B Joshua is by every means a false prophet and also a false messiah, one of the many antichrists who the apostle John spoke about. He is not only in error, but also misleads many and as such is a very dangerous wolf in the body of Christ. T B Joshua must be exposed relentlessly!

      • There you go again Mr Dunce. You are just a blind, stupid and foolish man. It will be better if u keep your partisan opinions to your stupid self. Oh I forgot dat every ass loves to hear himself bray!

  10. @daemondada,
    This man has perpetuated falsehoods severally in the name of God. I think it is not being harsh calling him false

    • vooke my man,
      I am not trying to stir the hornet’s nest here. I read Jesse’s post where he said that one need not be an apostle to rebuke a brother in Christ. He’s absolutely right. We all have been on tbj’s case for quite a while. The time for intervention by force has come. The violent must conquer by force. Even Apostle Paul said that he refrains from using The Rod on those Christians who saw him as being weak and that is why he rebukes them via epistles (The Staff). Yet, he did say that if push comes to shove, he would test his power against theirs for the Kingdom of God is not of talk but of POWER! The time for talking with tbj is OVER!! It’s time someone handed this prophet of doom’s ass to him BIGTIME!!! I have explained hitherto why I desist from branding him a false prophet. The one person who is clearly labelled as one happens to be the right hand man of the Beast in the Book of Revelations. He is clearly shown to be a blasphemer and opposed to everything concerning God neither does he recognize that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. Pretty grave transgressions if you asked me. tbj has not yet degenerated to that extent at the moment. I never said if one is not an apostle he can’t rebuke a brother. I said that to deal with this tbj imbroglio permanently, an apostle needs to take him on pronto using the grace given to apostles to act on Christ’s behalf in the edification of the Church. Just as Apostle Peter dealt with Simon the Sorcerer who was an infant Christian caught in the error of seeking to buy the Power of God with money. Even if it requires the flesh to suffer for the soul to be saved, tbj should be brought to order. In my human mind, I see tbj as a Christian in error. That IS the safest way to approach this palaver. What say you bro?

    • What evil has he committed you big fool? May God forgive you. Pls stop misinforming people.

    • The God of prophet TB Joshua is a true Amighty God,d Alpha &Omega bt tbjwatch is practicin satanism,he wnts 2 take d children of light 2 his kingdom of darkness bt Jesus said capital NO & is prophet TB Joshua dt ll deliver u tbjwatch, repent 4 d kingdom of God is at hand b4 it takes u unaware

      • Yes tb joshua is a real man of the living God. His life and ministry proves that God is with him. there is no evidence on the bad things people say about the man of God. No one can prove even a single claim. it is just jealousy of the help he offers to people. I think most of these op posers are satanic because the man of God deals with THEIR FATHER SATAN properly.

      • ” tbjwatch is practicin satanism”
        @Constance,
        Where do you find Satanism on this site, I missed it

  11. it amuses me the only good thing for this site is the way they push people to start learning the bible. concerning deuteu 19.22 tb has just resume his mind on it just as the message in his stickers you can change experinencies and revelation that people have with emmanuel tv

    • @BM
      ” you can change experinencies and revelation that people have with emmanuel t”
      Can you change lies ?

  12. I am intrigued that TB Joshua claims that the Boko Haram men who confessed in his church is now in police custody, although the police deny it. GOD ALMIGHTY is the ultimate authority and when one confesses before him he can not then be handed to the human authority to be put in jail. If that be the case then there will be no need to confess, someone will simply leave his deeds and come to sit in church for fear of being handed to the authorities. The fact is you cannot screen Live on TV someone’s confession because that should be between GOD and that person. So it is possible that the man is now cursing the god of TBJ and the christian faith and everything to do with it. Those who were maybe one day going to give themselves to CHRIST are thinking why the risk and will never come forward fearing persecution.

  13. Scoanites keep sayin Tbj keeps growing everyday and am sure most of u mean he is getting richer and his ministry keeps getting popular. Even people who do not Know God getting richer by the day and v companies all over the world. What most of u scoanites don’t know is the wealth isn’t measured by earthly possessions, buh rather its measure by how much one has grown in God’s sight. Cuz every thing in this world is vanity. Is it until ur loved one is affected by this man tbj u wud know u have to speak up. God forbid!!!! Speak out now for this man is a false prophet who spends his time Mocking God.

    • EJ I can see how foolish you are. Read what you wrote and tell me it makes sense to you. T.B Joshua’s is the only man of God who doesn’t live a flamboyant lifestyle. I expect u to be talking about the likes of Bishop Oyedepo, Pa Ayo Oritsajafor and Co who acquire private jets with church money when there are so many people in their churches who cannot afford to eat a three square meal in a day. Tb Joshua spends the church money on charity. Check your facts before you speak. You are so annoying!

  14. @Constance, the approach you’re taking of attacking the character o TBJW instead of addressing the matters raised in their posts has been logically, intellectualy, legally and biblically shot down too many times before. You may wish to take another approach because you are just exposing your lack of even basic scriptural knowledge here. That is SHAMEFUL.

  15. Jamie ! Please Jesus love sinners .That is why if TB Joshua begin to hate boko haram , then he has missed the message of The one who send him.(Jesus). A careful study of Matt. Chp: 5 vs 38 – 39 .please look at vs 43 to 47. See how vs 45 put it , so that you may be called the children of God . Please ‘ if you a true child of God Pray for boko haram , Jesus as a son of God He didn’t wait for anybody’s apology before He said father forgive them for they don’t know what they doing. Luke chp: 23 vs 34. Jamie Pray this prayer ; Say lord Jesus help me to understand you ways and Act , in your holy name.psalm chp; 103 vs 7.

  16. @ All,
    I am getting lost on all of this. Nowhere in the bible it says that you have to be an apostle to rebuke someone. If I was living near there, I would go. I have done it before a couple of times. But I will not waste my money on this and effort to go there again. I have washed off my hands of all of this. What the bible does say is that you have to fight your enemy on the mount Zion.
    The latest things that have come about has shown more than enough for me that he is a false prophet and that he lies and makes up stories as he goes along. Why would anyone bother with that ? I really don’t get it ? If you figure out that someone does this for a living, why be associated ?
    To me it is clear they believe their own lies. Wait, I am going to repeat this. To me it is clear they believe their own lies. They lie so much, they will uphold it because they have been doing this perhaps their entire life. They have no ability to know or do otherwise. It becomes their first nature.
    If you Dada cannot understand what the bible writes then you must ask yourself how you are going to explain it.
    I am gonna put it again before you.
    John 8:44
    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:for he is a liar, and the father of it.
    And also
    Jeremiah 23:32-34
    Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the Lord, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them:therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the Lord. 33 And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the Lord? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the Lord. 34 And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the Lord, I will even punish that man and his house.
    I am going to impress this very hard on you about these verses. God Himself speaks here to their own condemnation. But TB Joshua has a human will and God does not directly overrule human will. Human will is given to mankind by God to make A CHOICE, a choice to choose what you must do WHAT GOD wants you to do and OBEY ! The bible says and teaches us, Obedience is better than Sacrifice !!!
    Secondly I want to make clear to you this is what God says and it is not me but Him. Obey God to His Word ! So we can say that every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and Him alone. Do not sit upon the fence, choose this day Whom you will serve !
    Jeremiah 23:16-21
    Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you:they make you vain:they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord. 17 They say still unto them that despise me, The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you. 18 For who hath stood in the counsel of the Lord, and hath perceived and heard his word? who hath marked his word, and heard it? 19 Behold, a whirlwind of the Lord is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind:it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked. 20 The anger of the Lord shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart:in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly. 21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran:I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
    I have to remind you of Gods counsel, when He speaks people repent. There is no repentance in Nigeria, there is no repentance anywhere when TB Joshua speaks and when he makes it up as he goes along. That sir is a false prophet, one that has figured out to access the spiritual realm and abuses it as God is clear He has not spoken, because GOD WILL NOT SHARE ANY GLORY WITH ANY MAN !
    If this is not clear to you as it is to me I am calling you back upon that your consciousness in the Spirit speaks and not BY SIGHT or by OBSERVATION alone ! We are dealing here with an impostor and one that is paving the way for the Anti Christ spirit to express himself in this world and not that of God but merely self glory. Think again who is so adamant on self glory and promotion of SELF ! That is not God, that is Satan ! Down right Satan. Very simple and clear. Having experienced this power when he laid hands upon me as been spirit filled for many years caused deep depression upon me when I was there. A depression that I NEVER HAD in my life! Just to make this clear to you. He violated the Holy Spirit in me that was clear to me otherwise I would have never felt like that. But whatever, I have said this so many times, but most of you are just ignoring me about it because I am just one man that went through this. Apparently it is not enough. What else is there for me to say then ?

  17. The best witness to things of God is the Holy Spirit because God is Spirit.My own testimony is that TB Joshua’s teaching has drawn me closer to God than ever before.God’s word says “you shall know them by their fruits”.TB Joshua preaches love, reconcillition,forgiveness,patience,repentance, and all that is associated with the Holy spirit.That, to me is the mark of a True Man of God.To God be the Glory

    • Does he preach repentance? Does he preach about the cross and substitutionary death of Christ? Does he preach water baptism? Does his church administer holy communion? Superficially, sure, he says a lot of the “right things”, but look a few inches deeper and you’ll see at best he’s preaching empty platitudes, at worst he’s preaching outright heresy (c.f. anointed water labelled “for the salvation of your soul”). None of this is the Christian gospel.

      • You are ignorant of so many things. The most painful part of all this is that u think u know something when u know nothing at all. And the foolish ones are following you misleading footsteps. God will judge you for blasphemy. I won’t be surprised if u are an atheist. But if u mistakenly happen to be a Christian. Then u must be some frustrated, jobless and foolish guy who doesn’t know what to do with his life and time. Oh I forgot that every ass likes to hear himself bray. Keep braying…Ass!

    • @christian,
      Apart from your testimony and mine about TB Joshua, what do the edited prophecies tell you about this man?

    • @ Christian,

      What do you say about this when you compare this to TB Joshua. TB Joshua might have received this gift from God, but is now disconnected from God as the true signal sender and uses his gift and lies to attract people to the church and to run the church. Can anyone agree with this ?

      Watch this video. http://youtu.be/nb1u1ju0ROU

      John 6:44-47
      No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

      Hebrews 4:2
      For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them:but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

      Hebrews 3:10
      Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

      Hebrews 12:1-2
      Chapter 12
      1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

      Therefore Christian we see that God draws them to God, not man, nor TB Joshua, nor Wiseman, nor me or you.

      God is the one Who draws them. All further antics from mankind is not guaranteeing or proving your salvation. You better think again who is bringing you to God ? By what means ? Are those lies, tricks, fake things ? You better look inside of yourself how did you get saved and by what means ?

      Philippians 2:12-13
      Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work OUT your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

      Your salvation does not lie into watching someone doing good works, but by your own Faith in action.

  18. Previously,when daemondada share with us his most worries abt his christian life.Most of his fellows here ignored to give him some supports when he needed it most.
    But there we go,because he just said he will never call TBJ a false prophet,then many of his fellows now have the heart to give him some support.lol a fake love.

    • @ ???

      Perhaps you can’t read what I wrote did you now ?

      Further see my new post that is coming up especially directed at Christian.

      • Jesse,may be you are the one who does not understand what I wrote because you are only busy to fight TBJ.

      • @ ???
        Those three question marks do they stand for 666 ?
        Secondly my answer me fighting TBJ ? When truth comes to you, you say I am fighting, when you say something to defend TBJ what are you doing then to me ? Strangely enough whenever the defence comes, my name is always on the front with pro TB Joshua followers. Coincidentally ? Or is it that I am irking you and them too much that you and them don’t have no paw to stand upon and you just don’t want to relinquish and for a change follow Jesus instead of 419 scam empire in Ikotun Egbe ? Is that it ?

      • haha jesse you are so funny,you can give it whatever number you like,i don’t care.
        Especially when you didn’t know what I was talking about.So I won’t waste much time to explain to you.Your focus is some where else I m not interested in.

      • @ ???,
        Yes, your focus is clear and known to me, without me looking. which is, How you can expand your scam empire and personal convictions with supporting lies and deceit and desperately keeping up the already crumbling foundations of SCOAN for the world to see. I really hope and pray these of the world will come and see how Genesis 3 actually started from the Bible and now is more and more visible without any spiritual discernment necessary. The Lord Jesus is coming, though He may tarry for a little while, you still have time to repent of the shoddy architecture that was raised to honour the Devil and corrupted people that deliberately choose so. My instructions that I heard recently is that Jesus Himself will deal with it personally. So all I have to do is to see it come to pass. Maranatha !

  19. @???
    For one I have learnt that he is a charlatan.
    Secondly I have directed other friends of mine to this site to see for themselves.
    And thirdly, I have tried to engage other visitors to this site in a bid to understand them better

    Before I forget, I have a deep appreciation of the extent of brainwashing going on in the body of Christ

  20. @vooke
    Exactly ,I m doing the same thing. Everyday i m learning that there are many christians pretending that they are caring about others when truly they dont.
    I have also directed some of my friends to not ignore their brothers and sisters in need because in the body of Christ ,LOVE is the greatest gift of all.
    That is all I have done abt it so i won’t go further discussing this again.

  21. Constance,
    how do you mean when you say that tbjw is “harming” tbj? How can calling out shameful practices be harmful to anyone. Are you a tbj apologist? If he or any other scoanite believes that he is being slandered or lied against, the onus is on tbj and his devotees to provide EVIDENCE to the contrary. You forget that Christ himself commanded Christians to Watch and Pray. Therefore even as tbjw and supporters pray for tbj and his deceived sheeple, we still have to keep our eyes open to WATCH for the next episode of deception that regularly proceeds from SCOAN. We are not the ones telling people to believe lies and edited prophecies, tbj has that as his stock in trade. He is the one claiming to be the “shepherd” not us. We are just here to present information to people who may require it as they decide if they wish to get indoctrinated into this Massive Deception as you so obviously have already been brainwashed into. We know that you scoanites who are already in too deep are almost beyond redemption. That is the least “help” as you put it that we can offer to would-be scoanites.
    Unplug yourself from the matrix! You have been warned!! A word is enough for the wise!!!

  22. Christian,
    Buddhists and other Oriental religions devotees practice all the fruits of the Spirit even better than most Christians do today. Does that mean they are Christians? Doctrine is not a light thing to be trifled with. This is why Apostle Paul commanded Timothy to guard his salvation and DOCTRINE jealously. tbj’s doctrine is so farrrr from Biblical standards. Remember that Apostle Paul said that even if he himself or an angel from heaven should come preaching another gospel to you, he was to be ETERNALLY CONDEMNED! Be wise brother.

  23. What is the difference between TB Joshua and Boko Haram?

    TB Joshua is also sitting with more than 200 enslaved girls and boys!

    They are just hi – jacked in mind and now in body!

    TB Joshua is very Islamic – just like:

    Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, kept slaves.

    THE QUR’AN AND SLAVERY

    The existence of slavery is accepted uncritically in the Qur’an, and slaves are often mentioned. Captive women could be taken as concubines, special permission being granted to Muhammad to allow him to do this in a Qur’anic verse:

    …”O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts who migrated (from Mecca) with thee and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her this only for thee and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess in order that there should be no diffculty for Thee. And Allah is OftForgiving Most Merciful “….(Qur’an 33:50, Yusef Ali)
    .
    I pray that the world will free those captured people in TB Joshua’s cult – together with the girls captured by Boko Haram!

    Prophet TB Joshua alias Mohammed the 2.

    • Pls read what u wrote and tell me it makes sense to you. You are so dumb! Olodo rapata. If u don’t have any sensible thing to say. Its better u stay quite than say something so senseless and absurd

  24. TB.J is not God but God sent and he is not a magician either and remember God’s ways are different of men like you watchers……with all he has been doing you still find something to say about him, who are you to judge? If he is false why don’t allow God judge? If Jesus himself can go through what he went through from you watchers then I have nothing to say to you but to leave you to God’s judgement.

      • Why do all you pro-TB Joshua-fans, believe we are just hunting TB Joshua? TB Joshua is a leader for 900.000 people each day, and he causes error. Thats why I take a stand towards him., out of responsibility and acting on the word. It must not be to difficult to understand for people with some common sense. Every healthy person can see that there is something seriously going wrong in scoan. If you dont see it yet, then keep watching him.

  25. @Jesse ,Hi Jesse,I missing you so so much.
    jesse said :”Nowhere in the bible it says that you have to be an apostle to rebuke someone. If I was living near there, I would go”
    And daemondada said:”I said that to deal with this tbj imbroglio permanently, an apostle needs to take him on pronto using the grace given to apostles to act on Christ’s behalf in the edification of the Church. Just as Apostle Peter dealt with Simon the Sorcerer who was an infant Christian caught in the error of seeking to buy the Power of God with money. Even if it requires the flesh to suffer for the soul to be saved, tbj should be brought to order”
    Jesse,if you are really a true Apostle the way you claim to be,then you have no excuse according to what daemondada just said. Apostle Paul had no excuses to do the will of God even if it was involving to give up his own life but Obviously you cant do that.
    LOL ,it always makes me laugh when i see you with that phoney attitude as if you think no one knows who you really are.lol,You can never changed.
    By the way why don’t you come at our best place (WTBJ) so we can discuss freely without disturbing others?May be I will then get a chance to reveal all the secret behind that phoney.
    You know the last time we were discussing,you just left suddenly in the middle of the discussion.What did you fear then?

  26. Again – the Word of God commands us to judge prophecies,
    It is written:
    …”Let two or three prophets speak and let the others pass judgment”….1 Corinthians 14:29

  27. @ all
    New update about Jim Lyke.
    Does anyone still believe he is delivered from anything? Really ? Read this:
    http://www.360nobs.com/2014/05/nadia-buari-dumps-jim-iyke-over-anger-issues/
    How long will anyone believe that all these staged deliverances ARE IN FACT FAKE ! When you are delivered, you are delivered and then you change your life. This man has not changed. He is the same and so can his girlfriend witness for you all of what he is.
    He is not delivered. He is not delivered of anything. Not one demon or if there was any demon. He is the same. Clear and over and out !
    Facts will not change for the conviction of TB Joshua followers. And they are all in it for deception to extract money from foolish people who cannot discern one iota. FACT !
    And also fact that President Jonathan and his wife are just as fake as anyone. Because these girls are not important, what it important 5 star presidential hotels and other delicacies. Not a burned down school done by Boko Haram. That is just a side dish that is given to Ficky the Dog under the table. Let’s proceed says Nigeria. No interest in whatsoever. Maybe even staged to deceive the rest of the world. Mark my words.
    DO NOT LET ANY MAN DECEIVE YOU !!!! EVER ! Fasten your eyes upon Jesus. He is faithful and will get you through. Take Him as your Captain through any storm. Don’t get fooled by this world ! God bless.

      • @kiki So if you were a mechanic and you told me you’d fixed my car, when I see that you clearly haven’t and call you out on it, I assume you’d say “could you do it better?”!

        TB Joshua claims to have delivered Jim Iyke, Jesse is pointing out evidence to the contrary. If Jesse was making similar claims to TBJ, you’d be welcome to judge them by the same standards, but since he’s not, give up with the diversion tactics and face the facts!

      • Tbjw and jesse,are you perfect?
        Where it is written in the bible that deliverance means perfection?
        Deliverance deals with demonic possession only.Who told you that to be delivered means you to be immune to temptations or making mistakes and bad choice?The need to work daily on our salvation must still a free choice to anyone in order to maintain it by learning how overcome temptations.
        Its ok,if jeese needs to discuss anything ,i am waiting for him at WTBJ where there is freedom of speech.

      • @ TBJW,

        One only can hope that Kiki is able to understand of what you just said. I think you will get more positive response if you talk to those Synagogue pillars and ruins in Sardis.

        When you boil Jell-O and then cool it down it will set. That is how it is suppossed to be. Then when you let boiling water drip slowly over it it makes tracks all over the set Jell-O. Usually not a nice pattern. Those tracks are not changing if you keep doing that, because one choose to willingly do so and is not interested to be proven wrong. So is the thinking pattern of Kiki. The only way to change this track pattern is to reheat the Jell-O to bring it back to the state as it should have been and designed for.

        One can only hope and pray that this will trickle down one day in Kiki’s thinking pattern and ability of stated facts in his comprehension. I guess the renewing of our mind is simply not applicable on Kiki. I guess it is only laid away for those who will admit they were wrong in some point in time and repent from it and not for those that build their foundations on lies and deceit willingly and have their consciousness seared with a hot iron and want their ears to be tickled with fables from false prophets. Shame !

      • @Jesse,its even a Big shame,if you were not a False apostle yourself you would be able to do what Jesus sent out his true Apostles to do: to deliver, heal and proclaim the Kingdom of God.
        Not just some meaningless irrelevant comparisons ,anyone can talk anything and quote even the whole bible but it is written that The Kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power.
        Lets not disturb tbjw. I m still waiting for you at WTBJ for a good chart.You keep running from me,do you fear something?

      • Well, Kiki, you are actually pointing out exactly where TBJ/SCOAN theology falls apart.
        in SCOAN theology, everything from bed-wetting to mental illness to terrorism is caused by demons. TBJ even said very clearly in his latest talk about Boko Haram that it is not the people doing these things but demons. IOW, human beings are puppets if demon possessed, completely incapable of making their own choices, and by default, not culpable for their own sins. This is thematic in every “deliverance” video broadcast from SCOAN.
        If that is true, then deliverance should eliminate these sinful behaviors.
        Yet now you backpedal and say that it doesn’t make people perfect. OK. Then there is NO POINT in all the hubbub about deliverance. There’s nothing actually special about it. So why do you all fall at TBJs feet begging constantly for deliverance (and more deliverance, and more again)? What’s the point?
        The truth is, we all fall short of the glory of God. We all sin, by our own will. The heresy is in putting the blame on demons in the first place. It’s OUR sin. It is OUR fault. There is no demon making men sleep with every woman they set their eyes on. Demons are not controlling Boko Haram. Demons do not cause bed-wetting. Every single human being suffers under the burden of having a corrupted nature, thanks to the Fall caused by Adam and Eve and their first sin. Every human being suffers under the fact that the earth is fallen and subject to problems and disease.
        That is why we need Jesus. It is not casting-out demons that saves us. Jesus saves us by covering our sins with his blood. End of story. There is no other additional process to salvation, such as “deliverance”. And when a believer is saved, they are filled with the Holy Spirit, and the idea of “accidental” demon possession is beyond ridiculous.

      • @ Kiki,
        “@Jesse,its even a Big shame,if you were not a False apostle yourself you would be able to do what Jesus sent out his true Apostles to do: to deliver, heal and proclaim the Kingdom of God”
        Where did I claim or say I was an apostle ? You don’t hafta be an apostle to cast out demons, to heal the sick and proclaim the Kingdom of God. You just keep telling yourself that as you keep telling others the same nonsense.
        And no the way of maniacal ways of people who jump out of meetings I have dealt with that already many times over. I do not believe one shred of what is happening there is for real. Show me one Marine demon in the bible. Or show me any other concocted up demon that you see in the bible. You can start with the dog and cat demons. Go on tell me the evidence where Jesus/Paul/Peter did cast out cat and dog demons ? So give my portion to Ficky the Dog concerning that. Further I agree what M says. Your own contradicting stories of what TB Joshua says is rampant and you still refuse to accept in our own reasoning that should be just and true falls apart at the seams of your personal convictions of what you support as real. If I can’t point it out and M can’t point it out or TBJW and even Just Wonder and quite a few others the WHO CAN ? If God knows that you don’t want to change, He is sort of Ok with that, but not what the Fathers Heart is about that you would come to the knowledge and absolute Truth about Him that can only be found in Him through His Holy Spirit. Nobody can take you there, I can only point it out and then my job is done. And again this IS NOT about me, but about Jesus Christ and His Father, the purpose of the Works of the Cross, the shed Blood, The Communion with Jesus, the Fellowship of His Holy Spirit and So go there and discuss it with Them, they are waiting for you.

    • Pharisees and Teachers of the Law fought the Son of God. These were the least we would expect to fight Jesus because they were the top religious leaders. If it happened to Jesus, what would make us think it would not happen to one of His simple folowers, TBJ? In fact religious people like you will criticize and criticize until you cricism humbles you because while you are busy criticizing, you have nothing to show for it for us to know that you are better than the person you criticize, or that you do things for God better than the one you criticize. If you are speaking on behalf of God, surely God will back you up, and sooner or later, multitudes will pay attention to you. Then we’ll soon be flocking to you, Jesse, instead of TBJ, because then we’ll have discovered that Jesse is actually better than TBJ. The kingdom of God nis not mere talk, but deeds, deeds with power demonstration. Do your own thing, and leave TBJ to do his own thing, then God will mark you both, and men will see who to follow between Jesse and TBJ.

      • @ darkness concocts imagination,
        Don’t flock to me, flock to Jesus. Told you a million times. I don’t need the money or attention from people who so needily have to have someone to follow. About Who is it anyways ? Jesse ? No ! TBJ ? No ! You ? No !
        As far as I know the Bible ONLY records that ONLY Jesus says Follow Me ! I did not read in any chapter Follow this or that, so or so.
        It is crystal clear to me what is Light and not how you plaster it with your imaginary darkness. Your own darkness is so dark that you can’t even see how deceived you are yourself. How great is your own darkness if you follow a man you want to make to a unconditional person to follow because your moniker is Led Love Lead ? But what is love ? These false misrepresentations of a shameful demonic folly foolishness ?
        If TB Joshua claims to have the power of God, the first act He should do in what he claims that he knows where the kidnapped girls are, take his “anointed water” and demonstrate how he will overcome Boko Haram all by himself with that bottle in his hand. Since he claims it is bulletproof and fireproof.
        I can count on my fingers on one hand HE WILL NEVER DO THAT BECAUSE THEY BOKO HARAM WILL SHOOT THROUGH HIM UNTIL HE LOOKS LIKE A SIF ! Since he claims that Boko Haram is full of demons then this would be for him peanuts to do so. So you tell him and let him start his bags from this message has reached his eyes.
        When you will tell me about that report about to who the Arm of The Lord is been revealed, I suggest you stop talking to me and even stop mentioning my name in any post you deem necessary to write about me.
        And no I am not going anywhere near Boko Haram, because I am busy doing things that need to be done elsewhere. Boko Haram is in Nigeria, not where I live.
        This #bringourgirlsback is one of the biggest scams this world ever has done. Mark my words and you will see what will unfold next. The road of the rise of the Anti Christ will be in progress.
        Do not let ANYONE deceive you folks and don’t let a false scamming lying prophet take you for a ride. If you do you will soon find out what God will allow to happen to you. That you believe the lie because He knows that you have chosen to be beyond redemption and do not want to hear of what a unknown man speaks from his wilderness. God will use me as He already is doing and there is nothing you can do to stop that. I am specifically born and destined for a time such as this.
        1. Special question to ponder. What does a prayer rosary (faith bracelet) rooted in Islam and Catholicism do for a BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN AND BELIEVER that knows the Holy Spirit and is his/her personal omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent prayer partner ?
        2. Another one. Those that walk/march with God, will always reach their destination sooner or later.

      • @Jesse
        daemondada said “an apostle is the only officer in the Body of Christ who can bear the enormous task of bringing tbj back to earth and dealing with this interminable conflict once and for all in the same manner with which Paul dealt with Peter’s error as per the circumcision of the Gentiles with Paul being an apostle as Peter was”

        Jesse’s answer was”I am getting lost on all of this. Nowhere in the bible it says that you have to be an apostle to rebuke someone. If I was living near there, I would go. I have done it before a couple of times. But I will not waste my money on this and effort to go there again. I have washed off my hands of all of this. What the bible does say is that you have to fight your enemy on the mount Zion”

        Well,Jesse ,I know I m not good in English language but I m not stupid as such.
        By these 2 quotes,it is clear why you were defending yourself as why you won’t go there again.
        Daemondada was pointing out the name ” Apostle”,if you were not believing to be one, you would not have reacted like that.
        Not forgetting that a couple months ago,you were admitting to lay hands on sicknesses or give words of knowledge something like that.
        Hmmm,now its a good occasion for you to twist what you made long ago people to believe.
        Hehe, i don’t want to disciss this here, as I said let not disturb others. We have our best place where we can discuss freely ,and i will show you that you are lying.

        Of course every bad choice we make,does not mean we are possessed but in some cases I would have no doubt to believe the one testifying how his/her life was destroyed by that case.
        For example this barbaric act from the likes of boko haram,no one will ever convince me that its just a free will for them to make such evil choice.No human being created in the image of God can choose to do such horrible thing if there is no influence of demons in him.

        As for the deliverance happening there at scoan,if you believe its just a show,well really I don’t believe TBJ will have that amount of money to pay like hundred people every week, not mentioning that among them there are even rich people who do not need to embarrass themselves in the eyes of the whole world just to get TBJ’s money.
        If you believe so I have nothing to add on this,that is your choice.

      • @ Kiki,
        So now I have to go by the standards and convictions of Dada, which you are going by ? What made you think he is an authority of making these standards ? Or you just want to put this here because by your convictions he is and so should we all abide with that because you take the freedom to choose so ?
        When I said, I won’t go, it had nothing to do with SCOAN in Nigeria, but I was talking about another country I was in. I said, if I was living near SCOAN, I would do it. I don’t see what that has to be me being an Apostle or not ?
        So you are saying that everybody cannot say no to sin when they are oppressed, depressed, possessed ?
        So we blame the Devil for us sinning willingly by choice ? How are you going to build your case from what Gods Word says ? Ahem, King David a man to God’s heart, did what ? Ahem Samson a Judge, did what ?
        So why did Jesus teach us “Lead us not in temptation, but deliver us from the evil one” what excuse does anyone have today, while the whole world knows Our Father, Hallowed be Thy Name ? It is totally your own choice. It says stop sinning. Your will is stronger than what the Devil supposedly “made you do it” the condition is SUBMIT YOURSELVES UNTO GOD, then……..
        The bible is clear what makes you to do sin. The lust of the Flesh, The lust of the Eyes, The Pride of Life.
        There is no one to be blamed than you alone. As I said Genesis 3 all over again. The blame game. While God said, No you yourself were to blame, so now go out of my Garden of Eden and I will make sure you will not return here again.
        This is the same for you, this twisted thinking that you want to put here, your lies that come from where you dwell and keep regurgitating as truth and condone your lying masters that practice it in the process.
        We are all responsible for what we do, Hence therefore the Judgment as described in Revelation. If we have to believe you in the end of the journey you will stand in front of God and blame everything upon the Devil and not your responsibilities and your own choices and of all you think they did that as you say.
        Now it is clear for all to see whose side you are on. The lying side.

      • @jesse,”When I said, I won’t go, it had nothing to do with SCOAN in Nigeria, but I was talking about another country I was in. I said, if I was living near SCOAN, I would do it”
        Hahaha,i cant believe this,what are you twisting again?”another country”? which other country the discussion was referring to?
        Well we shall go in length with this on the other side.
        And about deliverance,if you can tell me that Jesus and all apostles would have just ignored the issue of casting out demons because demons possessing people are harmless in the lives of those they possess,in that case I would understood more your point.
        For what I know,satan and demons’ job,is to steal,kill,and destroy.But i have never see them in person doing so unless they use humanity.These are spirit beings,so were you thinking they do their job?
        Is not The Holy Spirit working through God’s servants to do the Will of the Father? That’s the same,satan and demons are also spirit evil beings,so how were you thinking they do their job?

      • Kiki, I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again. Your comments are 99% noise, and 1% signal, and that’s being generous. Like all other SCOAN supporters, you major on minors and minor on majors. You don’t give any examples of so called “falsehoods” on our site, and you make no attempt to justify TB Joshua deceptions exposed on this site. You don’t do you or your prophet any favours.

      • TBJW,It is noise for you of course especially when you do not like anyone to touch your best follower jesse .I was not the one who brought this issue of deliverance.
        We are all mature to protect ourselves in what we say but it is up to you to take sides and protect who ever you want.I have no power over your site ,so I will respect your will.
        When i insist for jesse to discuss at WTBJ,its because I knew this would come sooner or later so I m not surprised.
        WTBJ moderator is not there to protect anyone so Jesse is welcomed there to continue our discussion.
        I wish to finish here by telling Daemondada this:Big brother,hold on the wisdom God gave you,i understand very well your vision concerning TBJ and where you want it to go, I m with you 100%.Take care.

      • @ Kiki,
        1. Demons, Evil spirits, lying spirits and Satan don’t do nothing unless you give them foothold and/or you commit sin.
        2. Even if Demons and Satan are removed from this earth, Mankind will still be evil and will continue to sin. Aka Kill, Steal and Destroy things or people. Although there are people that choose good over evil and have a moral stance in their lives to do good instead of evil. That still does not mean they will stop sinning one way or another.
        Root cause is again: The Lust of the Flesh, The Lust of the Eyes, The Pride of Life. 1 John 2:16
        What is the Reason of 2: Because sin is ingrained in our flesh. Google Sarx, but since you are too lazy and only focused of what you think you know here is the link for you to study about it of what I mean.
        http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/sarx.html
        There is nothing to discuss further so leave it because you and I are always opposite of each other. I can’t change you, because you don’t want to. You want lies, fake deliverance, and heresies. No problem, you can have them. I told you before, it is your choice, not mine. But I think it would be better for you if you admit you were wrong in defending your false prophet and your own inner person. Just a suggestion. You only accept things that are so called “Apostles”. I accept only things that are spiritual that come from Jesus Himself. See the difference ? No ?

      • @ Kiki,
        “Not forgetting that a couple months ago,you were admitting to lay hands on sicknesses or give words of knowledge something like that.”
        Again you don’t have to be an Apostle nor even be a Pastor to do so. You just do it whenever the Holy Spirit is leading you to it. Which can be anywhere. Inside, outside, anywhere. Jesus style. You will know when because in my case a fiery hot flow will come over my head and the top of my body. Does that answer your concern ?

      • Jesse because you allowed to talk whateva you like and wheneva you want and I am not,our next discussion is on watchtbjoshua where the moderator plays no partiality for fear to lose followers.

  28. Excellent! I sense that we are all soon to witness a demonstration of power to separate the wheat from the chaff. Can’t wait. I wish I could be anointed by Christ right now so I can take out the trash. Loving it.

      • @ Dada,
        You don’t need to be an Apostle to take out the trash. There is no validation about what you say anywhere. What is written though:
        Mark 16:15-20
        And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
        But the interrogation of demons as in SCOAN is not written there. When you pay attention to what you should NOT pay attention to, is there a valid reason to practice it in front of the world and make your fake deliverances to a validation ? Jesus would have said so if that is the practice.
        This interrogation of demons is coming from the catholic exorcism practice. It’s not a practice ANY true Apostle or Disciple of God ever did. It says “Cast them out in His Name”, that’s it ! No show, no foolishness.
        You have to believe me, but I know the Bible is God’s last Authoritative Voice and Law for this earth. You obey it or you don’t ! Your choice. You are free to choose, not what mankind has made up for you to choose, except what the Law demands.

  29. Regarding the demon possession thing, I think it has been shown that someone like Mary magdalene who had 7 demons cast out of her was the same whore who wiped Jesus’ feet with her hair and tears. The pharisees were present and would have sounded the alarm that Christ didn’t know he was being touched by a demon possessed woman. It was not specified that she showed any obvious signs of demon possession except her proclivity to play the harlot. In all the recorded cases of exorcism in the New Testament, the sufferer was clearly known by the public to be possessed. So which do we go by? It might be possible for one to be possessed without one being aware of it. What do you all think?

    • “the sufferer was clearly known by the public to be possessed”
      @daemondada,
      There was the boy deaf and dumb.Can you honestly say that the public knew this boy to be demon possessed?

      • It was not specified. We are just told that a demoniac was brought to Christ. We do not know for certain if the knowledge of his state was known to the public before or after his deliverance.

  30. How someone can seriously assert that tbj has done no wrong by editing out the “fine details” of his “prophecies” is beyond me. The devil is in the details people! Every time a time bound prophecy wasn’t carried out in the Bible, valid reasons were given by the prophet for such. Either the date is moved forward as in the case of King Uzziah or the people involved repenting as in the case of the Ninevites. At no time are we left in the dark about the reason for the changing of the details of a prophecy in the entire Bible. That is a pretty hard sell you desperate scoanites are resorting to come up with in your indefatigable quest to vitiate tbjw’s and supporters conscientious efforts at exposing tbj for the manipulator that he truly is. Give it a rest and repent!

  31. The Bible tells us that the Church is built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets. The apostles have a ministry to edify the Body of Christ. Paul stated that he did not want to use the authority Christ gave him for building up the Church to punish the transgressors. It is the apostle’s prerogative to act in Christ’s stead in ALL matters concerning his Bride. That is why they are made a spectacle and a laughingstock before angels and men. Not forgetting that they suffer the most amongst all of the five fold ministry

    • Let me reiterate, I see tbj as a Christian in error. I am not one to throw away the baby with the bathwater. I have seen more than my fair share of horrors and that’s why I will always search for the appearance of good in every badness I come across.

      • @ Dada,
        There was no baby in the bathwater to throw away. How do you look for appearance of good in every badness ?
        If a fruit is bad or rotten, will you still eat it or give it to your children ? If you do, are you not concerned you will likely or your children get sick from it at some point down the line if you keep eating it ?
        Let me draw your attention to:
        And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered. Luke 11:9-14
        If you don’t know if you have to the Holy Spirit, Jesus says here ASK. Pray that you receive Him and it will help you to understand things better.

  32. I want to ask about this man’s huge generosity….if he is so bad why would he spend thousands – if not millions – on all sorts of charity, including scholarships for youth? No doubt an enormous amount of good arises from his actions.

    • @HJNDMN,
      FIrst, tell us how much he earns from SCOAN and how much he gives away each year then we can compare his relative contribution. It may be a very small fraction. But supposing it were a significant chunk, how would that subtract from the theme of this blog; irrefutable evidence of a charlatan?

    • Jim Jones killed close to 1000 of his followers. He was a *very* generous giver, and his whole cult was originally centered around taking care of the poor and the elderly.

      TBJs “generosity” (which is suspect by virtue of the pomp and display he puts on when giving) is what it is. It doesn’t invalidate the fact that he’s a liar and a rank heretic.

  33. Prophet TB Joshua prophecied about Banku vs powers and u are not saying anything about it now…WHY…? Is it because its a petty issue to u…?? How does an issue become petty to you..?? Is it after the prophecy becomes wrong or what.? Oh i see , now that the prophecy has come to pass the issue is no longer important,but I know you have been following it to make sure it goes ur way so u can prove the prophet wrong..But I thoght you guys always have some thing negative to say about the Prophet..EG Ah that was a guss..Ah it was fake…Ah the fight was not real the Emanuel TV team photo shoped the fight…

    • Oooooh. PLEASE. Any game or fight is a 50-50 chance. Or an even easier guess depending on how well you know the players/fighters and the odds. People “prophecy” on games and fights all the time, and many of them guess correctly. It’s called gambling.

      It’s irrelevant. If TBJ is a prophet of God, speaking God’s word, he will make NO errors when he is prophesying what the Holy Spirit tells him.

      Tell me, where is the Malaysian airliner? Are the Nigerian girls home? Has Boko Haram stopped attacking in Nigeria?

  34. A bad fruit may still have viable seeds in it that could be planted to get even more abundant crop. I must not eat it. There is always a silver lining to every dark cloud. As for your advice on the Holy Spirit, I have run the gamut. Still I have not given up though I am no longer as eager as I first was to tell the truth. Thanks anyway. Yet I want to know how come you could be led by the Spirit and yet remained in SCOAN for such a long time? None of my bizness though. Safe.

    • @ Dada,
      I understand if you are pointing out to me. No problem. Let me ask you what difference does it make now ? I am out and now stand on the other end of the fence and not sit on it.
      Please comment on the following article for me please in the light of TB Joshua prophesied that Boko Haram was a thing of the past.
      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/25/boko-haram-militants-kill-dozens-in-latest-nigeria-attacks
      Who do you believe ? Me or them or TB Joshua, Wisemen and or disciples ? Please elaborate. Have I not been here for three years now and have contributed daily of what I stand for ? I am been called a liar here and on the other side and called a nobody but I refuse to back down when we see and myself see EVERY SINGLE day now how TB Joshua is wrong and yet still crazy pro SCOANITES ARE STILL keep up their lying deceiving prophet that hides himself in charity but promotes his name and organisation for self aggrandisement not for anything else.
      I want to remind you despite your questions about me. Sit down take your bible and read.
      Jeremiah 5:26-31
      For among my people are found wicked men:they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men. 27 As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit:therefore they are become great, and waxen rich. 28 They are waxen fat, they shine:yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked:they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge. 29 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the Lord:shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?
      30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;
      31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and MY PEOPLE LOVE TO HAVE IT SO: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
      I am not attacking you and I am furious that it has to take this long and I am up in arms to get this out of our scopes, because I am not having it the promotion of this false prophet anymore. Or he repents or he goes away and stop spewing his lies over the world scene that are no use for anyone involved. Do you understand that Dada ? Why should I take a leaf in front of my mouth. I am really angry that you let yourself put in doubt or do I have to say that you are just here to sow doubt in people’s mind. Think again mate. If you need convincing go down in this website and read my posts over the years and make your mind up. I have been around, seen it, done it, got that T-Shirt, now my cupboard drawer cannot be closed anymore. I think the time of joking is now over and let’s get serious and make this known what we are dealing with when spider eggs are hatching in the dark and the creation of the web of deceit claims even more victims. Ezekiel 33.
      God bless, take heed, let God be true and any other man a liar, Jesse
      Jesus is Lord, do not be fooled by any appearance or any deceiving man, woman or child that is sold out to Jesus Christ.
      Hate me for it, but that is what is required from us if we serve Jesus Christ and not fancy trickery men with clown suits and catholic rosary/Islam inspired prayer beads.

  35. @ all,

    Correction “Jesus is Lord, do not be fooled by any appearance or any deceiving man, woman or child that is sold out to Jesus Christ.” In above post.

    This should be “is not sold out” sorry, my mistake.

  36. Even people did not believe Jesus Christ as they sided with the demons at their time ,so it is happening to this new generation .Those who live to believe shall enter into the kingdom with the believers, but those who are at the opposite shall also carry their own cross. TB JOSHUA is saving the lives of this new generation believe it or not ,u would come back to give ur own testimony like others in Jesus name”””’ AMEN

    • @Edwin Agbetorwoka
      Jesus was not into video editing or cooking prophecies nor was he a charlatan. So you are comparing guavas to coins 😉

      • @vooke
        The bible we carry must connect to our heart, as he always say go and follow Jesus,this one alone is enough for the believers like u and i to charge .
        if God himself stand in front of your house and call rain to fall,still some of you would live to reject him.This is because you are in between the light and the darkness.but when we charge and follow Christ u and i would enjoy the internal life..The prophet has come to save us from our sin.
        And to your comment l can say thus what u think just make a move to SCOAN u would see yourself very light .

  37. @ Edwin,

    I really would like to know from you what this means ? “TB JOSHUA is saving the lives of this new generation believe it or not”

    And how does he do that ? Are you implying that TB Joshua has saving powers ?

    No wonder that you are so deceived and brainwashed with the demons that have high jacked your brain and gullibility and now you siding them with telling us and the world that TB Joshua has saving powers.

    No-one will ever saved if it is NOT for Jesus alone. No other person, past, present and future will ever save any other.

    I really don’t get how you even can assert or purport that TB Joshua saves or can save people. Boy, if I were you, I would run to the shop and get myself a good copy of the Bible and start reading at page 1 until your close the back cover some time in the future to figure out if TB Joshua indeed has saving powers. You must be going to SCOAN, otherwise you would have know it was not so.

  38. @ Edwin,

    “The prophet has come to save us from our sin.” Who made him a prophet ? You, anyone ? You will never be saved from sin unless you will apply the Blood of Jesus Christ and when Jesus Christ Himself saves you. No other man, past present and future is unworthy to become a sacrifice for God’s wrath over sin. YOU MUST be going to SCOAN otherwise you would have known…..

    Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no Saviour.

    Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

    Hosea 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

    1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

    Announcement: BRAINWASHED, BRAINWASHED, BRAINWASHED, ALERT !, ALERT !, ALERT ! Please attend aisle 13 row 2 please and do deliverance on deceiving and lying demon infestation in Edwin Agbetorwoka.

    • So you are desperately searching for fame through the name of Prophet TB Joshua…???And yes you guyz are going to be famaous to fools who run after the wind…..

      • @ Thuntshaa,
        Yeah we seek fame to expose your false prophet and expose his false “anointing water”, fake deliverances and personal false prophecies and claims to be “infallible” of whatever he says. When will you admit ? Please inform yourself with this article what in reality is going on.
        http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/06/04/suspected-boko-haram-militants-kill-dozens-in-nigeria-church-attack/
        Now take your fake “anointed water” and run into Boko Haram and start delivering and interrogating their marine demons, queen of heaven, crocodile, snake, giant man, Indian man, oh and their spiritual wives and spiritual husbands because according to the liar and false prophet TB Joshua you will be bullet proof and fire proof and it will also release the kidnapped girls. So good time to try it out. I think it is better you keep your mouth shut because you only embarrass yourself way too much.
        PS. Make sure you take a camera with you and a bag full of microphones that you can shove in their faces.

  39. @tbjoshuawatch God will judge you for misinforming people about TB Joshua. You will certainly not go unpunished for this evil and wicked act of yours. Go and mark down today’s date on your calendar. The day misfortunes start befalling you…just know that it’s a punishment from God for your wickedness

    • If T.B. Joshua’s anointing were not of God, the ministry would have wound up a long ago. I was among the first verbal attackers on T.B. Joshua, that was when the SCOAN was being aired on the NTA. I believed and supported all allegations and attacks leveled against T. B. Joshua them, by Pastor Chris Okotie. (from what you can see now in Pastor Okotie’s way of life, is there anything Godly in it). After over 20 years of SCOAN establishment, in spite of all attacks and allegations, the ministry is spreading globally. What more evidence do you need.

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