TB Joshua bribe recording – FULL TRANSCRIPT

We’re not sure who to credit this transcript to, since it is duplicated across many sites on the internet. It seems fairly accurate.

TB Joshua – I want to thank you very much for your patience and for your time. In fact if i finish talking to you now, you will see,just pass through over 2 thousand people I’m attending to. They are from all over the world .No single Nigerian. I’m attending to them.

So I asked them to give you a copy of the cassette. There is 750 thousand which at least, it will be 50 thousand each for fuel. To buy fuel for your car.

(Speaks to his staff). I think you have it there, so you hand over to them. Then the cassette,they need one,one cassette.

Journalist – But man of God, we were expecting that  you would come up with an official statement .

TB Joshua – I have said it, you know i’ve talked to you(Is your camera recording..you know it’s not nessecary. It’s a private issue )

Journalist – The one in the church was not audible enough. We need something substantial for us to air

TB Joshua – Ok but you know we have to leave the security people to do their job. I don’t want to interfere, I don’t want a situation where i will become a hindrance. Because the country ambassador of America,the UK,they have sent me a letter and i greet them. South Africa Ambassador are here,Ghana Ambassador, they are here. They want to see their people. It is a very complicated issue.

Unknown Journalist – Sir say something, A sympathy comment

TB Joshua– No no no,it is too early now .Lets finish the whole thing. Have you been there?

All chorus -Yes

Unknown Journalist – So sir are we expecting you to call us back

TB Joshua – By the grace of God and i will be very happy if you can help me correct some of the things that is inside the papers

Journalist – We commiserate with you the church, what we expect is if you can’t give us a later day maybe you can give us an official statement outside the official one. You know when there is no information outside, people will continue to give rumors

TB Joshua– Which official statement do you want me to give

Journalist – We know investigation is ongoing. At the moment we know some lives have been lost, some people are in the hospital .

TB Joshua – why cant you talk of those who have been rescued You should have started from life first

Journalist -eh eh like so commiserate with them

So some people have been rescued, some people unfortunately have gone.

TB Joshua – I want to assure you that alot of people got rescued there. Many of them are even at the prayer now. Some people that are in the hospital are recovering

Journalist – SO can we say you are wishing them quick recovery and you are sympathizing with them ?

TB Joshua – Can’t you hear what I said in the church,I talk of the hero and Martyr. I talk like a man of God. I can’t talk of death inside the church. You know people will begin to say oh I salute the martyr

Journalists – Thank you sir,God bless sir .yes sir..

TB Joshua – SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE NOW

Just like you said…journalist chatter. as he greets them

121 thoughts on “TB Joshua bribe recording – FULL TRANSCRIPT

    • Perhaps he should also try bribing NEMA officials with millions of Naira / dollars to retract their legally scathing report as first the respondents and rescuers to save his slippery skin from the new South African move on a class action law-suit against him by an opposition political party called DA.

      http://thezimbabwemail.com/south-africa-opposition-party-pushing-for-a-class-action-suit-against-tb-joshua/

      NEMA official spokesman Mr. Ibrahim Farinloye’s press report to Associated Press as admissible evidence and proof in a court of law that for almost two days (48 hours) from Friday to Sunday, synagogue church authorities (ostensibly acting under their prophet’s instruction as we all know that they would do nothing without their lord & master’s knowledge and consent especially in such grave circumstances) deliberately denied and hindered NEMA full access to the collapsed building site…this invariably led to the loss of so many lives that could have been saved because most of the building’s rubble would have been sifted through if the rescuers had been working round the clock day & night during those crucial 48 hours after the incident.

      http://entertainment.verizon.com/news/read/category/africa/article/the_associated_press-nigeria_church_obstructed_rescue_lives_lost-ap
      If only they gave the dead just 48 hours to live…many of them will still be living!

      Excuse my grammer…Damn only 48hrs to Live!!!

      My submission is that perhaps only a few fatalities, possibly less than a “dozen” could have materialized in this incident and not over a “hundred” dead Christian brethren that did not need to die…May their innocent souls rest in the peace of Christ Jesus, Amen!

      This inciting, incensing and over bearing question: Why that “wicked” prophet did not want those “trapped” people rescued “on time” can only be answered by him when he is docked as an “accused” before an impartial judge. Perhaps he wanted to have as many “casualties” as possible before proper rescue operations can commence for evil reasons best known to him; or he was in a state of malicious damage, delusion and denial that his church authorities were capable of carrying out any meaningful rescue operation to save the lives of those people he knew only too well were still “trapped” in the rubble which is both ethically and legally unacceptable.

      Therefore he deserves a “fair trial” to conviction…unlike his victims whom he denied a “fair chance” to survive!

      Believe…If I were a professional lawyer I would have personally and single-handedly taken on this “evil-beast” of an African church and prophet legally speaking in the court of law right here in Nigeria and no doubt secure a guilty verdict and conviction. But I trust the indomitable fighting spirit of our South-African Christian brethren who lost many souls in this international incident will take up this international challenge and give us a good report and resounding victory as they did against Apartheid in Africa…Justice must be served and seen to be served to the glory of God!

      Great Mandela’s fighting spirit still lives in Y’all!

      Peace & Love,
      Brother Nosa.

  1. Can I ask again that we pray earnestly for the disciples of this false prophet to be released from that cult soon and unscathed? Maybe serious prayer for their deliverance from that hell hole in the next 3 day? Let us stand together in prayer for them to wake up and leave that place.

    • Yes, Just Wonder….let us pray for the veil of deception to be removed from those who wish to follow Jesus, and let us pray for those who are deceiving and misleading to repent. For Christ’s salvation work on the Cross of Calvary is available to every human being on earth until their dying day.
      God Almighty, expresses Himself in Holy Wrath and Mercy, Love and the Truth are the essence of His heart. He is Righteous, He is Just. He is God, He is not man…..May His Will be done.
      I rest my case.

  2. Thank you Jeremiah and let us also pray earnestly that that situation will not end up in a Jim Jones situation.

  3. What do we do we expect the man of God to say? What do we want to hear? Nothing he says .or do at this stage will be acceptable to all critics! Relevant people will be communicated to i.e.all those affected! Some of us must hold our peace and pray!

  4. What is the man of God supposed to say? Nothing he says or do at this stage will gratify critics! All affected parties have been communicated to, isn’t it obvious since they are also quite! Curiosity killed the cat!

  5. THERE IS ABSOULTLEY NOTING WRONG WITH HIS CONVERSATION WITH THE JOURNALISTS, I SEE NOTIHGN WRONG WITH IT, TB JOSHUA IS A REAL MAN OF GOD.

  6. Till date, this false prophet has not shown any repentance for the souls he has destroyed, but keeps devising more lies and bribing journalists to help him cover up his misdeeds.
    Well, well, all I will say is that this false prophet, TBJ will stew in his own pot of concoctions, deceit and lies and would have no more excuses……..
    Just wait and see!

    • He is the man of God dat all what ever wrong thing he does if its like that .it non of anybody’s business but his and God . Because only God can judge thnk you

  7. TB showed yesterday and today condelences and in the sermon of Racine their consideration with the lost ones was mentioned. , and his sermon was comforting. TB Joshua admitted his time and seazon and asked for support, teaching and preaching., and he offered his service once a month to South Africa. Dont under-restimate what they have to face, there are no easy solutions for it, it is too complicated. TB is openly saying that he needs help. So, lets offer compassion and suitable advize. , without loozing discernement. Even when tb is responsible for the accident and earlier havoc, then still we need to come fore-ward with God-given direction. I gues we have expressed our grieves and in-justice more then enough. What to do, to let TB see what is the right way to walk on? He is as much a produkt of his culture as we all. And as much teacheble as we all.

      • I dont agree with that. the bible is full of examples of servants who failed, as David, and God called him ‘a man after His own heart”. God used the sins of David to teach him obeyance.

      • @jamie – as Jeremiah says, true repentance is demonstrated by its fruit. If TB Joshua was truly repentant, i.e. not just putting on a show for sympathy, he would see that his whole ministry is corrupt from the bottom up, he has built something where he is a mediator between people and Jesus, and many people call him messiah. The only godly way forward would be to dismantle the whole thing and step down as a minister. The issues with the ministry are not just with him, they are with his followers, how they idolise him. It would be years, probably decades after he disappeared from the limelight before he could enter ministry again and not be treated in the same way.

        All this speaking as if he’s a Christian minister who has fallen, but that is a big “if”. When/how was he born again? In his mother’s womb?! Who led him to Christ and discipled him? Has he been baptised in water?

    • Jamie, I too saw and heard part of his service today, and I agree that this is the best response on his side concerning the matter-excluding the term martyrs-, so far. However, please be cautious. Repentance bears fruit and one must witness such fruit. Fruit concerning all impeding matters down to the core of heretic teachings and doings. This is a procedure which involves time, so don’t be too quick to let down your guard. I have witnessed repentative moods yet ulterior motives surfaced in the long run. And repentance here does not involve ONLY the situation at hand. You know what they say: Love everyone and trust only God. I will add: Trust NO ONE but pray for all.

    • Jamie,
      Now, do not go soft on TB Joshua. He is a master deceiver and can play the martyr role superbly.
      He is not a man of God and he is just playing on our feelings to soften us up for his next trick. He has other plans in line that will suite himself. I could still not make contact with my people up there? If he had any humanity in him, he would get them to contact us, to assure us of their well being. Nothing has yet changed behind the scenes. He is still a feeling less psychopath.

  8. I can never know why ppl are after miracles so much.i can never understand why ppl believe so much in this “men of God”.the bible is the main prophet.

  9. If tb joshua is 1 of the apostate of hell,thats his own cross to carry.all i can say is each and family/friend/relative who are affected by this,take heart.its a gruesome tragedy and it cnt be changed.

  10. The fact TBj knew fully well that people where still trapped in the building and decided to hold a Sunday service two days after showing he’s congregation the CCTV footage of the collapsed building is very Cruel, wicked and Heartless. It means he has no respect for the living or dead, cause a human being with feeling whether christian or not wouldn’t do such. Tbj is obviously a respecter of no one. Like oh well, I called them Martyrs, that is a enough honour, what more should I say about the dead. If this is not a wake up call, I wonder what will. This isn’t about touching the Lords anointed or Judging the Man of God, This is a man whose actions speak for him. And everyday he steps on the intelligence of people hiding under the “Man of God” Canopy Soon he would run out of lies and Enough would be Enough.

    • Yes,eh U are very,very right.2 days.i was shocked to see him have chrch service that Sunday.even the people who were in church are their right up steers.are they telling us their didn’t know what had happened? This is very shocking.very.shocking.people coming for healing.the next thing.u are in the motuary.is fear? TB was suppose to say samthing.just imagine sam families have lost a bread winner, its sad,in yesterdays service,he says its good people have died,living these problem on earth,Racine said it,and it was running on the Emmanuel tv. And he said to a believer.its okay. because their have gone to a better place,who told him that? This is madness. No prayer in southafrica.on way..

  11. TB acts as a man in shock and trauma, it means he denies the emotions, because if he should allowed them, he would proberly become mad. I agree with Jeremiah, to stay alert and not to trust him, but i do trust Jezus in me,. I believe that love breacks all barriers. Even if TB is a criminal, he still deserves a humanly approuchement by christians. Even when he does not repent, because he does not feels he is wrong, then still only blessing, prayer and love will come through to him. It is a good excersise. For un-forgiveness, grieves,wrath, and critizm , in steat of righteous judging , and wisdom as we ought to do as a christian. Jezus loves him, as He does us. We dont have to become worser then he, by lifting situations out of context. I believe a mercyfull atitude will be norishment for all hearts.

      • ej, what will please you the most? To see tb hang? To execute him? To see him on his knees apologizing? To see him prison? I know the story of a world-war-camp-victum, treated very crual, and she saw her sister slaughtered before her eyes, lost parents, etc. She survived, and after the war she evangalized about forgivenesss. Until one day, a man came to her, after her speech, and she recognized in him the executioner of her sister and parents. He asked her for forgiveness. And she frooze, she could not do it, she felt hatred and bitterness, while she was preaching the Gospel for years about forgiveness. And then God came in, and moved her heart and arm with warmt, and she was able to forgive the man and shake his hand.. She received her test and became freed, and he could die in peace. I believe that is christianity. God will Always ask for the impossible.

      • Jamie, you don’t have the right to forgive TBJ on behalf of his victims. That is for them to deal with, personally, between them and God and TBJ.

        Forgiveness does *NOT* mean not holding a criminal accountable legally and morally for the crimes that they have committed. And a truly repentant sinner will beg forgiveness, acknowledge their crimes, and seek to make reparation any way they can. This is one of the WORST false teachings in the church, that to forgive means to withdraw consequences and allow a criminal or an abuser to keep on hurting people.

        Do you see TBJ repentant? Begging forgiveness? Admitting any wrongdoing whatsoever? He may eventually get around to throwing little packets of money at the victims families, but it will not be a sacrificial, humble reparation.

  12. For me, i dont see a crime in given the journalist a token money. He has been given out not to day. I can’t count this as a bribe besides, i now see dat we cant satisfy human being, he has done the right thing with the journalist.

    • Victoria,U will burn.in hell.never say things like that,lives have need lost here,do U have family? May be U don’t.how can TB what to cover up.accident. Why? It must be said.do U know god is are life?he head U.he head U very clearly. What U have said,just wait and see. God help us,mad people,heartless,

      • Hes giving money to journalists for what reason? Seems most of u forget it’s Church money he’s given out, what’s he’s business with what is written, if he was pure in his ways he wouldn’t care about what’s in the papers, he’s primary care is the families of the injured and dead and also coming clean to the public. 50,000 n you guys say it’s not bribe. Get out of ‘Disney land” and come to the real world. Did the journalists go to scoan for fuel?

  13. People of God, what you fill is what he is also filling, so let’s stop criticising and pray for him in these trying moments. And you will see how God will bless us let’s leave judgement for God.

    • U must be a fellow soul, criticism him will not solve the issue, all what we need now as a true believer of Christ is to help him in our prayers.. let submit judgement for God as u hav just said.

  14. he is supposed to be good at predicting football games, but he couldnt save the lives of all those people, right on his doorstep.

  15. All what we need now is for the believer of Christ Jesus to steadfast in prayer for man of God and pray as well for the victim family and the family of those whom have already pass away to the place of comfort, eh yah some time I hate this journalist with the stupid manner they use to fabricate fictitious story’’’ I don’t kn what exactly they are expected from Man of God after what he hav said 2 them.
    In all thing let us Give thanks to God, no one is perfect’ things happens in life as God wishes u cannot stop it therefore let us stop blaming prophet; please take heart.

  16. News are coming to my ears of some of the suffering people. There is a family with 4 kids. The mother and father died at the hands of TB Joshua. So now we sit with 4 orphans. One woman’s back is broken. She will be lame for the rest of her life. Fathers or mothers are dead. Families lost one parent. One small child has survived, but her parents are dead. Families with loved ones that were there, has come back with broken arm, leg, ribs etc. Terrible mourning is going on. People crying their hearts out and some still cannot get hold of the ‘church’? They do not know where their loved ones are. Dead or alive in hospitals. Poor people who spend their last sent to go to TB Joshua. Others are phoning everywhere to confirm whether people they know did go up this time and are save. Crying real tears of relieve, when someone is still OK. It is heart breaking and only Racine could really give a word of encouragement one week later. And what I hear is only the tip of the iceberg.
    1 Peter 4:17
    17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?

  17. I expereince very deep the love of Christ at the moment, and i can not see the wrongs any-more. I just dont see them.

    • That’s too bad, Jamie, because God is a god of justice and righteousness, as well as one of love and mercy. And in His Word, he has made it clear that we are to hold each other accountable in the Church, to right wrongs, and to expose and expel the wolves who come in to eat the flock.

      TBJ is a wolf. God may (and I pray he will) forgive him, but that doesn’t mean we are to stand silent as he kills people through his arrogance, negligence, and false teachings.

      • He is more of a were-wolf than a wolf, a lycanthropist of the ancient serpent whom he has embraced to the peril of defenseless people.

    • It is good that you are experiencing the love of Christ within your heart, extensively, at the moment. God does this to us Christians when the turnout of events has led us to an extensive period of pointing out error and distortion of the truth in others. It is a matter of maintaining the balance between love and the truth. However, this is not intended to become emotional. What I am saying is this: you saw and heard a rather remorseful TB Joshua today, and this has brought compassion into your heart. But would it be the same of you had also witnessed the heart brokenness and mourning of the families of the deceased, as well as the sufferings of those heavily injured? Manipulation is a very sly and dangerous game. Be watchful.

      • @ Jeremiah,

        Exactly, Nollywood actors are very good in letting the tears roll whenever they have to. It is clear that TB Joshua waited scheduled to show a sort of remorse “remorse”, and Jamie took it hook, line and sinker, because she had actually a bit of a crush on TB Joshua and was angry because he rejected her to be close to him. No ? Remember this Jamie. You better squint your eyes first towards TB Joshua and their fanatic followers and then assess what really is going on.

        Jeremiah 13:23 King James Version (KJV)

        23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

        We could that see too with Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart, Peter Popoff, Roberts Liardon, all big rolling tears, but they are back to their old tricks, trinkets and money collecting thieving again and do the same as they did before. No real change or remorse. In one week you can’t see any change, that will take years.

        I agree with you, DO NOT TRUST ANYONE, but you can still love them and pray for them.

  18. Just as the message of “Forgiveness” has been terribly misunderstood in Christiandom, so also has the message of “Judgement”. Yeshua said to the Pharisees who laid heavy burdens of extra man-made laws on people, and who couldn’t accept when a sinner (e.g. a prostitute or tax collecter thief) repented, that they should stop judging others. However, Yeshua also told us to judge the fruit to find out what tree we have. Further, Paul taught that “discerning of spirits” is one of the gifts of God’s Spirit for us. I’ve experienced this! Healthy boundaries is important. Look at how the prophets in Tanakh from beginning to end, and even John the Baptist, Yeshua, Paul etc., spoke out against those who were false prophets and lawless; Balaam was a “seer”, a witchdoctor who sometimes heard God; Israel put him to death, even though he prophecied some truth, because he led them into sexual immorality & idol worship and thus into God’s judgement. It’s vital to pray for the gift of discernment in these last days. The Beast will also come with counerfeit miracles and great show of (false) “humility”. We must firmly resist him (Dan.11:32; Rev.13, 17, etc.). Actually, TB (his real name is Fatai Balogun) could be likened with the Pharisees judging others and putting heavy burdens on them and being hypocritical, rather than one being wrongly judged by us… Yeshua would say of such a man, “You brood of vipers”, “You white-washed tomb-stone”, “You synagogue of satan”. His talk of “martyrs” sounds very Muslim. In any case: its UNBIBLICAL, unless he holds to his notion that an air’plane of some enemy caused the building to collapse and thus killed them??! Sounds like a copy of NY’s twin towers, but I won’t comment further until full investigation reveals hopefully some truth.

  19. I will never accept repentance from the charlatan as long as he continues blaming UFOs for his greed!

    You can’t repent over wrongs you are denying having committed. So let the thug cry us three rivers but UNLESS and UNTIL he admits the building collapsed due to his shoddy workmanship, he will go to hell. Why so? He is LYING and God hates a lying spirit. DO any of you really believe that TB Joshua believes in his own theory?

    Picture the woman caught in the act. ‘Hey, am sorry, see am crying. I will never do it AGAIN, but I didn’t do it’

    • TBJ knows the people are very deluded and very stupid and would believe anything he says, even if he tells them to eat grass or drink a spiked Kool AID like Jim Jones did.

  20. UNBELIEVEABLE! You need to know what TB Joshua asked Journalists to do with N50,000 each

    I’ve never been insulted like this all my life. For being brave to say the truth people have called me all kinds of names. Jeezzz #Synagogue,” Mr. Ibekwe said.
    This revelation of bribes are coming same day President Goodluck Jonathan paid the Synagogue pastor a visit, promising to investigate the cause of the building collapse. The visit has drawn criticism from various quarters many of whom are of the opinion that Pastor Joshua should be undergoing prosecution for the death of over 80 people in his church having failed to meet building regulations in the collapse of the six story building.
    Mr. Ibekwe berated the president and Lagos state governor, Babatunde Fashola for threading softly with a man whose Church left scores of people dead, wondering how he wielded so much power to be accorded such respect.

    http://www.osundefender.org/?p=187723&cpage=1

    • Like I said, Jonathan is deceived, just like Abacha was deceived before him, but if he doesn’t wake up now, he would need a bigger SHOCK than a collapsed building, and that will come, sooner or later. That is the day people would start running from the Synagogue of Satan like a big monster is running after them.

    • Churches in the Northern part of Nigeria and even Police stations have been strucked by the Boko haram attacks killing many and leaving others orphans, nothing was said about it, The World trade center buried hundreds of souls but it was no news.Now that SCOAN has been touched it becomes a forum for a so call journalist to make a name. TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED AND DO MY PROPHET NO HARM.

      I have discovered that very few people are involve in this negative talks.You spent more time getting satisfaction about an unfortunate situation that caused the lives of innocents souls, rather than putting your heads together to fight against the BOKO HARAM ravaging though your nation. Nigerians, be wise for once, unnecessary pride will lead you no where. God guide you Nigerians

  21. TB JOSHUA’S SYNAGOGUE CHURCH OF ALL NATIONS FACES INDEFINITE SHUT DOWN

    The state government said if there were any violation of relevant planning laws, the church would be shut down indefinitely.

    SCOAN FACES INDEFINITE SHUT DOWN

    The state government said if there were any violation of relevant planning laws, the church would be shut down indefinitely.
    According to Nigeriafilms.com, Nigeria President Goodluck Jonathan visited the site of TB Joshua’s collapsed building at the Synagogue Church of All Nations and promised to ensure that the incident is properly investigated and necessary action taken; to avert future occurrence.

    http://bjrworld.wordpress.com/2014/09/21/tb-joshuas-synagogue-church-of-all-nations-faces-indefinite-shut-down/

  22. The christian prince-husband of our queen, once said; ‘christians and their campaings , are worser then the maffia.” And Gandhi answered once on a question, why christians seem to have so many hindrances; ” Because they look at each-other, and not to Christ”. I believe they know where they are talking about. I am going my way, with Christ, with my expereinces with TB and christianity, nd find my way home in it. Before i became saved, i was hindoe, and there are a lot of moments in my life that i regret to have given-up the lovely way of the hindoes, for the never-ending fights and troubles, in christianity. They belong to the lifing-death, in steat of the Life in Christ. amen.

  23. More injured arriving in SA:

    Plane carrying SA survivors from Nigeria delayed

    One of the soldiers manning the main entrance to the Swartkop Air Force Base in Pretoria, where the plane is expected to arrive, said the plane would touch down after 10am….

    Mail Guardian South Africa 2014-09-22

  24. TB Joshua watch, i want you to publice the fact that i am leaving the site for a good personal reason. I am sorry for you all, when love does not fit in your stragedy.. I am not willing to be offended because of love. amen

    • @jamie
      I put your comments on moderation since you posted a particularly personal and unloving one directed at another regular commenter. I’m sorry you feel you need to leave the site.

      • I have been very sick, after i left TB Joshua, and i am recovering. i need a better perception in live, then endless messing around in Tb Joshua.,s inflated way. I need to forgive, for my own sake, so i will become whole again. Is TB Joshua a bad man? Yes and no. He is in the picture with every step and every calamity and endless opposite actions. What has changed this 5 years? Nothing. Did TB- Joshua- watch changed any-thing? No. Does any-one listens to the facts of this site? No. As far as i can see, no-one, no organisation, No governement, is interested in the misery caused by TB Joshua. They support him, as Jonathan Goodluck. Justice? What is it more then a word?

      • TBJ is a deceiver, just like his father, Satan. After deceiving the ordinary people, he went on to deceive his president, the late Sanni Abacha. Then he deceived Atta Mills of Ghana, then he deceived Banda of Malawi, then he deceived Johnathan, the present leader of Nigeria. In between them,this ignorant Nigerian fraudster and ordinary false prophet has deceived many others who imagine he is a “prophet of God,” and don’t realize TBJ is just an ordinary 419 criminal in a religious garb.
        Did not Jesus say there shall be many false prophets who shall deceive many?
        This is the time for this false prophet to prove his mettle. Let him raise the dead and heal the injured.
        Now some deluded people would say they said the same thing to Jesus, to come down from the cross, but Jesus came to die and TbJ is not Jesus but an ordinary criminal and false prophet!

  25. 26 survivors arrive home from Nigeria

    Published on Sep 22, 2014
    The plane carrying twenty-six South Africans who survived the building collapse at the Synagogue Church of All Nations in Nigeria has arrived. We now cross to Ofentse Setimo at Swartkop Air Force Base in Pretoria, who has witnessed the arrival of the plane.

  26. THROGH CHRIST EVERYTHING IS FINE,GOD KNEW WHAT OUR BROTHER,OUR SON,OUR PROPHET WILL GO THROUGH AND THROUGHT ALL THIS WE SALUTE THE NAME THAT OUR FAMILIES DIED KNOWING THAT GOD WILL BE DONE ON EARTH JUST AS IN HEAVEN,DITHI KUNI THUTHULEZAKANI,UTHIXO U ZO SULA INYEMBEZI,MAY OUR SIS & BRO RIP, ONLY GOD KNOWS
    BUT FOR ME I STILL SAY BRAVO TBJ MAY YOU LIVE LONG IN JESUS NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. Lagos – Lying in the rubble of the guesthouse, only able to tell if it was night or day through a tiny crack, Lindiwe Ndwandwe heard the screams of others beneath the debris slowly turn silent.
    For five days the 33-year-old was trapped inside a toilet next to the dining hall of the collapsed Synagogue Church of All Nations, breathing only through a small hole in the wreckage.

    In the end, she was forced to drink her own urine to survive.

    “It’s like a dream to me that really, it’s me that came out from here,” the South African told AFP on Saturday as she surveyed the remains of the church in the Nigerian city of Lagos.

    http://www.ofm.co.za/article/National/153045/Nigeria-building-collapse-SA-survivor-tells-of-days-of-darkness

  28. Why could TB Joshua not visit the injured in hospital and pray for them? Oh, maybe he will send 4000 bottles of anointed water to South Africa. I forgot…………………… My soul is vexed by what has happened and the aftermath of injured people!

    • Because he can’t control who records what and he will be exposed as a charlatan..Let’s just say he is a black version of Spielberg and SCOAN is Hollywood

    • This is true…..prayer or no prayer, a visitation to the victims in hospital is mandatory. Elaborate announcements should not substitute simple, basic Christian deeds.

  29. Ya, he cannot stage his healings. It is gonna have to be original and not faked and he is not good with true stuff!
    He will also not come to SA, you will see. He is to much of a coward! And they are waiting for him here. He usually promise a lot and produce nothing.

  30. One of the national papers in my country, publiced a critical story about TB Joshua and the tragedy. The head-line is quoted :’TB Joshua, more mighty then his president”. The content of the story is written by an ex-disciple, who tells about the manipulations of videos and facts, and the abusive treatments, the isolation of the disciples and his fear for repressailles. http://status.nrcdigitaal.nl/static/frontpage/NN-2014-09-22.jpg

  31. Jamie, Tbj watch has helped me personally, trust me. And a lot of people who you are not aware of. I read in the news that a man sold he’s wife for N800thousand, and he said its the devil and he was remorseful, does that mean he shouldn’t go to jail? There was a girl in one of the universities in Nigeria that killed her best friend, her parents where in full support of her going to jail, does that mean they don’t Love her?
    We are all sinners, nobody is claiming to be “holy” pass another, all we do is write the truth, and hope that people would be aware of who tb Joshua is. No one said you shouldn’t love him, I never said I want to see him hanged and I want is Tbj to step down,come clean and stop deceiving innocent people. That’s all I want, that’s what this site is preaching.

  32. And what needs to happen more, before any-one, an organisation, governement, police, will take the accusitions serious, so TB can be fairly judged? After he repented in his church, in full public his wrongs? I forgive him, for my own sake. Even when he changes tomorrow, it will be only to save his position. TB only loves TB, and sometimes even God, if it comes to pass. Love your enemies, thats what i learned by the bible. I could never imagine that Truth would be this harsch reality. even when TB has to go to jail, because of found quilty, it will not change anything.

  33. Jamie, it is true that sometimes commenters get out of line in their comments, but then again, doesn’t this happen in real life? Some may do it out of character, others out of a need to blow off steam, others because they have suffered so much that this is where they feel they can express their anger or anxiousness for justice. Don’t forget this is a site and you can know so much about someone, as much as he or she wishes to reveal. And it may seem to you that this site is not accomplishing much, but I will tell you this:
    If not for this site, all of us who have shared our stories/experiences at SCOAN, which have been in their majority negative and extremely painful, would not have been able to anywhere else without censorship. At present, where else could we have revealed on an international scale our pain and hurt? Believe it or not expressing oneself, even just like this, can be therapeutic for the mind and soul. Of course we should follow Holy Bible principles and display Christ-like character, but we can’t demand that from all. We must all learn to handle opposition and this could actually make us stronger…because at least, here, your voice is heard! And not only that…here you have the chance to warn others based on your experience, and where do you know? Someone who is in turmoil this moment and doesn’t know what to do, may be benefitting from your words.
    When I first posted my story, I was adamant about not commenting, as I considered it a waste of time. But as time progressed, I saw that commenting was not actually for the sake of commenting but a form of open discussion where all sorts of views are expressed, as well as mine. If you handle it in the right manner, you can actually grow through this. The secret is, when you feel that you are not ready to respond to someone in peace then just DON’T DO IT. Just because someone refers to you, doesn’t mean you must answer. Did Jesus answer all? And He certainly possessed the peace and wisdom to respond to all. No one is perfect, not even one, but we learn…
    Meditate on the Word, be led by the Spirit and pray, and everything will fall in place.
    For in Christ we live, we move and have our whole being. 🙂

  34. Hi Jamie,
    Do not let your gentle and loving spirit be hurt, but be very careful for the deceptions of false Christianity. TB Joshua is the worst case scenario of a fake Christian and that is what makes me so angry at him. You will not get anyone as false as him and unfortunately you got involved in this chaos. All the hurts that emanates from anything to do with him is unreal. Hope you will stay, but if not, remain blessed in love and truth in Jesus.

  35. DA in South Africa is pushing for a class action suit against TB Joshua

    The Democratic Alliance (DA) plans to write to the Minister of International Relations and Cooperation Maite Nkoana-Mashabane urging her to assist South African victims and their families to file a class action suit against Nigerian Pastor TB Joshua’s church.

    More than 80 people, many of them South Africans, died after a building collapsed at the Synagogue of All Nations in Lagos. Several others were injured.

    The DA’s Member of Parliament Stevens Mokgalapa believes the church may be criminally liable, as he believes many lives could have been saved if rescue work had begun immediately after the disaster.

    http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/55262080458d987ba064a7c7c599c9eb/DA-pushing-for-a-class-action-suit-against-TB-Joshua-20142109

  36. @tbjoshuawatch..
    just listen to yourself….
    this is the Same ministry, you were all part of…..simply because you did wrong nd got punished…. you devise a means to tarnish the image of the man of God……
    there is absolutely no proof here that he offered money to bribe them….try and listen to the conversation again…..help me correct what you wrote….. Not
    take this money change what you wrote…..we are in a world where technology has taken over…. simply put there is nothing wrong in what he did or said…..you have seen the clip nd have also read the papers….

    • @ Msi,

      “simply because you did wrong nd got punished”

      So you accusing me that I did something wrong and got punished ?

      Come again ? I left because of lying to me, ostracizing me, no results in anything, absolutely nothing, while I treated everyone friendly, being hospitable, feeding them, let them sleep in my beds, drive them around, looked after his own daughter with care as I was her father, interacted with nearly everyone in the church,

      Then after all that, here you come along and tell me I did something wrong and I needed to be punished for that.

      How warped, twisted, selfish on your own agenda person you are. In you everybody can see how nasty piece of work you are of accusing me while I did do nothing to be punished for. Go on tell me what I need to be punished for then, eh. In other websites I am been accused I am the Devil incarnate, I am first suspect now for letting the building collapse, I am Boko Haram and God knows what I am in your and their train of thought. Well go on then if I am what they say I am let them arrest me and I will do my confession to any Law authority there is out there. I will even go by simple invitation if they do so, I am itching to tell my side of the story what I went through with SCOAN and some other churches. So start out printing your WANTED leaflets and posters, I dare you ! I am ready.

    • He offered money clearly in exchange for good press.

      That is called a bribe.

      If you think there is “nothing wrong” with that, then you, like him, lack integrity.

  37. Thank you Jeremia and Just wonder, for your kindness. I did not mean to offend the TB Joshua watch. It is a general feeling that nothing changes in scoan, not even when they face hell on own property. It is true that being able to talk on this site is helpfull,. Still, how much does it impresses TB Joshua? It is such a great des-illusion to me, that when one calamity is in full movement, the other is already coming-up from the dark. I am perplexed that so much wrong is one man, i can hardly bear it. I forgive him each day, and it still hurts. TThis site was mentioned in the News-paper too. They wrote that the TB Joshua -watch is for the painfull harmed family-members who lost beloved ones because of TB Joshua.

  38. TB Joshua Watch, not sure why you are so obssessed about the Man of God. May God forgive you for all your lies about this humble servant of Jesus Christ.

    • @ dtshikele,

      Our so called “lies” would have prevented the dead if they would have listened to us. Nor any of our “lies” caused anyone to die by our decisions in what we do. TB Joshua caused this by writing his autograph on the dotted line, without consulting God whether it was the right decision to do so. We don’t read in our bibles that God made buildings that collapse when He told them how to build them. Look at the tabernacle, look at the temple. The temple was destroyed by the Romans 70 AD. It did not collapse, even the wailing wall still stands. TB joshua was building his own empire. First it caught fire many years ago, that was because they needed new equipment for the audio and video department. Now we have this. And when add up all this, TB Joshua ‘ s train of thought is. Oh my followers all over the world will feel sorry for me when I can tell them Boko Haram did it, aeroplane did it, agents of Satan did it, my government is with me anyways because I am their money milk cow for the country and elections are on the way so time is right let’s do this, I got away with the stampede in Ghana, so let me declare them martyrs of faith and everybody will scramble and every other false pastor and false prophet will speak for me, I will just sit back. The false ministry is worth billions of dollars. You really think they are going to sit back ? Never ! The smell of money is too good for them.

      • JUST WONDER I REPEAT YOU FOOL START READING THE BIBLE PROPERLY AND STOP JUDGING.THE WORD THAT I READ SAYS THOU SHOULD NOT TOUCH MY ANNOINTED ONES & DO THEM NO HARM,BUT YOU ARE BUSY HAVING THOUGHTS THAT YOU ARE GOD STOP AGAIN FOOLING YOURSELF.REMEMBER GOD IS IN CONTRL. SOMETHING VERY POWERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!VERY INTERESTING IS COMING TO TBJ’S SCOAN AND WATCH TIGHTER NOT TO MISS THAT POWERFUL RESPOND FROM JEHOVA GOD,MAY GOD BLESS SCOANE HALLELUJAH AMEN “JUST WONDER”

      • WE ARE PROTECTING TBJ.WE ARE SAYING LOOK TO GOD AND YOU WILL RECIEVE YOUR ANSWERS.THAT IS WHY I SAY WATCH THE SPACE,BIG THINGS ACTUAL BEAUTIFUL THINGS ARE COMING TO SCOAN & RSA,JUST WONDER DO U THINK YOU PROVOKE PEOPLE OF RSA TO HATE TBJ,INFACT YOU ARE NOT FAVOURED IN RSA BECAUSE WHAT EVER YOU SAY IS OF BAD INFLUENCE AND NO ONE WILL LESSON TO YOUR ARROGANCY.THERE WAS BOMING IN NIGERIA FEW MONTHS AGO WAS THAT THE WORK OF TBJ PRAYERS,KIDS ARE MISSING, WHT DO U SAY ABT IT”200 GIRLS”IS YOUR CONCEOUS CLERE ABT DAT.YOUR ARE LOOKING TO WRONG THINGS THAT DOES NOT NEED U 2 WORRY ABT.THIS—- GIVE IT TO GOD,IF TBJ GOT SOMETHING 2 DO WITH THIS MASSACER, GOD IS NOT THE ONE 2 LIE TO,REMEMBER GIVE EVERY THING 2 GOD & GOD WILL TAKE CONTROL.BUT DON’T FORGET! IF GOD IS ON OUR SIDE WHO CAN BE AGAINST US

  39. @Mash,

    No we don’t leave TBJ for God. Because that is WHAT YOU WANT ! There is no such command either in the bible.

    However in the Bible state. Just Judges you shall have in the land, which means accountability to all members of the Church as well the Law.

    We have read the Bible slow, fast and in between and God appointed Judges to speak justice and as a matter of fact God says in His Word THAT WE THE BELIEVERS must put these matters to the LEAST esteemed in the Church. So yeah all church members and the ones in the Body of Christ have the right to arrest anyone who is a murderer, drunkard, etc and put them to justice.

    Your agenda stinks because you want to continue in your false miracle trick circus which TB Joshua is practicing in the so called “more anointing” he supposed to have. And if he wants to use his
    “Acquired by strange fire” anointing, he can start now by visiting the sock and injured in the Hospitals where they brought them. I assure you that that “speshul” anointing all of a sudden won’t work and will be selectively BE AWOL.

  40. The end of TB Joshuas deceptive powers are in sight:
    1.first there was the disappearance of one wise man leaving four in SCOAN
    2 Then the closure of one branch followed by another branch , then the next branch .
    3 Before this there was the recalling of branch leaders to Lagos-some of them left, one after the other.
    4 Also the anointing water stampede and accompanying deaths leading many people to shun TB Joshua
    5 Then the collapse of the Lagos guest house leading to the following questions- why did he not see it ?; why did he not pray to prevent it?; Why cant he heal the injured ?

    • Johnson Karman,
      It looks as if he wants to retire in South Africa, pulling everything back at scoan? But the South Africans do NOT want him in their country. Except for a few deceived ones. The DA party is filing for criminal charges of culpable homicide against him.

  41. Scoan email shatters family’s hope

    Durban – The family of a Durban North business couple are shattered after finally receiving confirmation of their death in the Nigeria church guest house collapse.
    Dickie and husband, Dennis Ngcobo, who founded the Ukuphila Wellness Centre, which treats people suffering from chronic illnesses and HIV/Aids, are among the 84 South Africans who perished in the collapse, church and SA government officials confirmed to the family at the weekend.

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/scoan-email-shatters-family-s-hope-1.1754580

  42. NIGERIA COLLAPSE: EMOTIONS RUN HIGH AS SA SURVIVORS RETURN HOME

    Her son, Clint said he was overwhelmed.

    “She’s alive and I can’t describe the emotions going through me right now.”
    Meanwhile, details have emerged about the extent of the injuries suffered by the victims of the collapse.
    1. Government says one South African survivor has developed gangrene and doctors are in the process of amputating his toes.
    2. The legs of three other survivors were amputated in Nigeria.
    Radebe said a man who developed gangrene was the first patient to be rushed from the airport to the hospital this morning.
    3. He said some patients also have minor injuries.
    4. “Other have fractured ribs and another is in kidney failure and is on dialysis.”
    5. IVY LANGFORD’S FAMILY RELIEVED
    The family of a woman who was trapped for two and a half days beneath the rubble say they’re relieved to finally see her alive after 10 days of panic, confusion and worry.
    6. At the same time, Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan visited the site of the collapse on Saturday, offering his condolences to Joshua, who has been the focus of anger among the South African public after he described the victims as “martyrs of faith” on his Facebook page.
    7. Two siblings, whose parents died in the Nigerian building tragedy, will now be released into the care of their family.
    The siblings, aged 18 months and two-years-old, were among the 25 survivors who returned home this morning.

    http://ewn.co.za/2014/09/22/Nigeria-collapse-Emotions-run-high

    • Yes, it is not just the deaths. Those are horrific enough. But the injuries inflicted by this, some of which will cause lifelong suffering, physically and emotionally.

      There is no way TBJ can every make reparations for the damage done. But humbly admitting fault and begging forgiveness would sure be a good beginning. 😦

  43. AND TB JOSHUA COULD NOT EVEN PRAY FOR THOSE TRAPPED PEOPLE ON THE FIRST SUNDAY AFTER THE ACCIDENT, NEITHER COULD HE OR HIS WISE MEN GO AND VISIT AND PRAY FOT THE INJURED IN THE HOSPITALS. THAT IS HIS ‘JOB’ FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. ISN’T IT?????????? NOW HE WANTS TO BE ‘HOLIER THAT THEE AGAIN’ BY PROMISING TO COME TO SA FOR THE DEAD??????? WHAT ABOUT THE LIVING DUDE???????????????

  44. Can anyone post the video of the alleged South African 15 years ago played on Sunday and exactly what was said? Read the summary of it on TBJ Facebook but didn’t understand a thing. Something about sharing the Grace God has given Tb with the whole world or else he must be brought out into the world…?? Was it suppose to be some kind of prophesy or what?

  45. DO YOU REMEMBER THE US MASSACER ON 11 SEPTEMBER,THE STAMPED IN FNB STADIUM? WHERE IS THE DIFFERNCE? NOW WHY THIS SO DIFFICULT TO BE ACCEPTED AS AN ATTACHED? YOU THE BLOG YOU THINKK THAT EVERYBODY YOU TALK TO HERE WILL LEASON TO YOUR FOOLISH WAY OF YOUR SO CALLED BETTER CHRISTAINITY LIFE IN YOU,WHO DO YOU THICK YOU ARE? PROPHET OF THE WORLD TBJ,IS THE THE PROPHET JEHOVA GOD HAS SEND TO HELP US THROUGH ALL THE PROBLEMS WE ARE FACING AS GLOBAL WORLD IS CONCERNED. IN RSA WE BELIEVE THAT GOD IS STILL SAYING SOMETHING,WE ARE VERY SORRY THINGS HAPPENED WHERE THE BLOG NEVER EXPECTED,THIS IS THE WORLD. IF IT HAPPENED IN RSA & OTHER COUNTRIES WHY NOT IN NEGERIA ESPECIALLY AT TBJ’S PLACE.WE SERVE THE AWESOME GOD.IM HAPPY TBJ IS COMING TO RSA,WE WAITEDED FOR THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME,NO ONE IS GOING TO TOUCH HIM WE ARE SO MUCH FOND OF HIM IF NOT LOVING HIM.IF GOD IS ON OUR SIDE WHO CAN BE AGAINST US,MAY GOD BLESS TBJ,BLESS SCOAN & EMMANUEL TV FOR BEING PART OF THE NATIONS IN JESUS NAME AMEN

    • @ Ian,

      “PROPHET OF THE WORLD TBJ,IS THE THE PROPHET JEHOVA GOD HAS SEND TO HELP US THROUGH ALL THE PROBLEMS WE ARE FACING AS GLOBAL WORLD IS CONCERNED”

      Really ? Well strangely enough he did not help me with my problems when I arrived at SCOAN. Nor did he concerning my wife. Or my neighbours, or my friends, my acquaintances, or the ones that I stood proxy for. It took first 6-7 years before we went, after extensively talking to friends and pastors about this man and watching the videos that were posted. Even the Nigerian Embassy was an obstacle but they finally let us go there.

      So you stand in the prayer line with your pamphlet and the several video interviews when you are finally get ministered to. Then zap, zap, zap, shake, jump, shudder, puff, zap, zap again and then pause, coming back zap, zap again, quickly in between ministering to another knocking them down and come back zap zap zap again. Done !

      Huh ? Why do I feel so depressed now ? I did not feel like that before. So why now ? Feeling heavier than before coming home only to get more sick than I actually was. Six weeks of raw coughing day and night, slime all over the place at any place I went. Thought I am going to cough out my lungs so raw they were. Went to the doctor got a penicillin antibiotic prescribed, nothing helped. Got back to the branches, standing under the numerous sprays of “anointed water”. Nothing improved. It kept going and going making me tired every day, sleeping in my bed. Wasting the day on resting and feeling depressed. Going every week telling the leaders how I felt and there the excuses came, it Is this and that and so and so. But none of their advice worked. None. And their favourite stick horse excuse was I am not God, go ask Him, and why don’t you visit again to TB Joshua, which I did but again nothing. While in all my might and belief and strength I went there to find Emmanuel as they claimed, but clearly Their Emmanuel was AWOL when it came to me. Praying everyday, fasting, praying with others, everything tried and tried, result nothing. Then spent another few year in the branches week in week out still nothing. After this I had enough. Now I am called the Devil incarnate, Boko Haram, first suspect of bringing the Hostel down, by his followers. So there you have evidence that his followers are cuckoo. Biblically illiterate and fanatics. Zombies without any ability to function on their own and get through their life with God. But I am ready to be interrogated by the authorities. Let them invite me or arrest me and I will sit with them as long as it takes what think about SCOAN and the whole of the Pentecostal community and their lackeys, because I will not take a leaf before my mouth and am ready how I wasted more than 25 years on their lying promises of their superimposed god their serve with false promises. So send out the warrants about me and let’s begin to destroy these money grabbing evil filth companies they have been building.

  46. stupid tbJoshua watch you running out of negative stories now, can you imagine someone being trapped for 5 days and survive it? Its the grace of GOD you evil people .it was GOD s will for this to happen and prove to idiots like you

    • @mist
      it is God’s will for a plane to blow away a 5 story structure?
      It certainly is God’s will for you to use your brains 😦

  47. Here we go again…………….. All TB Joshua’s supporters can do is curse and swear like their master the false prophet TB Joshua, who left a trail of stealing, killing and destruction behind. So typically them. Blind following the blind and on their way cursing and swearing.

  48. mist says:
    …”it was GOD s will for this to happen and prove to idiots like you”…
    Ian says:
    …”WILL LEASON TO YOUR FOOLISH WAY”…
    Ok, you who are clearly in the mist, let me shine some light on you. Maybe, just maybe, you will see something vaguely and wake up.
    The Bible says: “And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell”.

  49. “…can you imagine someone being trapped for 5 days and survive it? It’s the Grace of God you evil people…”
    Well…. sorry to break the news to you, but people have been trapped even for over 2 weeks under the rubble in earthquakes in Turkey, Haiti, Chilie, Mexico, not only that, infants/babies, the elderly, those who were buried in the mines in Mexico and so on….and yet they have miraculously survived. This is called GOD’S MERCY. He pours out His Mercy on the righteous and unrighteous the same. It has NOTHING to do with Grace. Where have you seen in the Bible God allowing a catastrophe simply to prove His Grace? His Grace was sealed on the Cross and is given to all those who are born again, through His Word and by His Spirit. If anything God has allowed for such incidents to happen to the people of Israel for one reason alone: HUMILITY AND REPENTANCE!
    It is ludicrous that in such a tragedy people would speak about it as if it were some kind of “miracle”, sign and wonder on the side of God to prove Himself being with someone or a ministry. ON THE CONTRARY. THIS IS AN INDICATION THAT HE IS EXTREMELY DISPLEASED AND AGAINST ONE.
    And please….don’t mention the case of Job. There was, there is and there shall be only ONE Job…as in one David, as in one Joseph, as in one Paul. As Christians it isn’t the spirit of Job we have imparted into us but the Spirit of Christ! And Christ has passed the ULTIMATE test for each and every one of us. It is called SHEDDING HIS BLOOD FOR US. When will you stop seeking for “men” and “women” of God to follow, as in the Old Testament? It is Christ we follow and the Holy Spirit is our ONLY mentor.(1st John 2:27)

  50. During the sunday-service, the connection with emmanuel-tv ‘fell away”. 4/5 of the world was not able to watch the service. I believe it was calculated. So there would not be to much critizm and comments on the service and they could hide facts about the disaster by it. It seems that TB is functioning on his best in crisis, and is expert to veile reality in times of chaos and confusions. ‘everything is permitted in war”. The Spirit told me, that the cause is a weack foundation and that TB Joshua is in chastisement:. And i stick to that. If the tragedy should have to do with the air-plain, the Spirit would have confirmed it, and He did not. We can never fully understand Gods ways, but we do can respect Him and just wait and watch how this resque-operation will develop in His Light. Tb is doing stupide things, but i know God is teaching him . TB will hold on to the end that the problem is demonisch, to destroy him. To admit that his Faith-foundation is wrong and not working effective, , seems to be a too great correction for his will to survive. He is wrong, he is not living by the faith he is teaching. He teaches some home- recipts, but this recipts dont produce the full bakened bread.

  51. JONSON KARMAR,PROPHET HEARS FROM GOD,HE DOES NOT TELL GOD WHAT TO DO.IF GOD WANTED TO REVEAL HIMSELF AGAIN AS HE DID TO ABRAHAM,GOD CAN STILL DO THE SAME,BUT NOT AS HE REVEALED HIMSELF TO ABRAHAM.OUR GOD IS GOD OF MIRACLES,YOU MENTIONED THE WISEMEN THAT HAS LEFT AND ALL THAT YOU STATED.EVEN IN OUR CHURCHS PEOPLE COME & GO WHAT IS WRONG WHEN THEY LEAVE SCOAN,IS THAT NOT HUMAN?????????

  52. JEREMIAH WHY CAN’T YOU LEAVE TBJ ALONE.CANT YOU GET TIRED FIGHTING SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT ON THE BATTLEFIELD.JUST PRAY AND ASK GOD INTERVENTION.YOU CANT, BECAUSE YOU ARE SCARED THAT WHEN YOU DONT CONDERM TBJ,PEOPLE WILL SOON BE GOING TO TBJ AND START TO REALIESED THAT THEY WERE FOLLOWING THE DEVIL WORSHIPPER,MAY IF YOU JUST KEEP QUITE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TELL GOD WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT TBJ’S FUTURE AND STAND AGAINST IT,AINT U HUMAN???????????.CANT YOU FEEL SORRY FOR THE HURTS AND THE LOSTED ONES.GIVE THEM TIME TO MOURN,THIS IS WHAT WE RESPECT IN RSA,RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!THAT ALL WE ASK FROM YOUR BLOG RIGHT NOW,OTHERWISE CRY AND COMFORT THEM RATEHR THAN FIGHTING THE BATTLE YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST

    • Ian, “may if you just keep quiet” , NO I WON’T. I have explained myself more than a few times concerning my experience with SCOAN’s doings and teachings and if you wish to read, it is available on various posts on this site. But I will tell you this: if you have chosen to campaign against those who are voicing the truth about SCOAN and aspire to shut us up, you have chosen the wrong site.
      Concerning the victims of this tragedy, I was among the first to stir up acknowledgement of the deceased as well as the respect due to them, while your “beloved” SCOAN was in FULL DENIAL of them for a whole week! And what is more? They held a WHOLE service on that Sunday without even mentioning the dead, desperate to present their “defense” in the face of evident legal repercussions. Less talk about mourning….And by the way, I am not fighting, Someone else extremely Mightier than me, whose name is Adonai, is fighting for me.

    • lol. All of a sudden his followers are concerned about honoring the victims. Amazing. For the first week, just like Jeremiah said, you were all too busy finding ways to justify your false prophet master, and sending him condolences to bother about the people who actually suffered and died.

      Now that there is clearly NO way to defend him, now, and only now, do you want to start talking about the victims. To distract from the fact that he is a false prophet, a criminal, and a shady, lying, heartless charlatan.

  53. Ian, if TB Joshua is, who he says he is,; called Profhet of God, with a mandate and commision to reach-out to all Nations, with all the Gifts of The Spirit, with great powers and profhetic abilities, and with 4 wise-men who are his copies, . If he teaches The Gospel of Christ, by Faith and love, and he shows at one hand wonders and miracles, witch atract people, and he advertises with wonder-Waters, stickers, bracelets, witch atract people . And the result of the this great campaign is, that 1 of 1000 people receive healing or a miracle, and 10 of the 100 receive a testemonial deliverance and the rest seems to be very satisfied with a ‘touch of God”, . And at the sme time numerous people become duped, not healed, not delivered,not receiving their miracle, abused, mis-leaded, manipulated, humiliated, deceived,. And still the whole show is going on as if;’everything is availebel for thoose who believe”, even when a building collapses in their back-yard, causing death to many, and still the show goes on as if it is of no importanty to their faith, but at the same they dont act by that faith, if fact, they ac by corrupt solutions, not even strong in faith enough to lay hands on the injured people of the tragedy, but very strong in veiling the reality of a Hand of God on their situation, then somehing is seriously wrong in this church. Tb ruiined lifes, and so he will reap what he sows, on own property, until he awakes to the will of God for his church.

  54. JESSE I FEEL SO SORRY ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE IN SCOAN.DID U PUT GOD FIRST OR TBJ? WAS YOUR FAITH PRACTISED,DO YOU KNOW THAT PROPHET HAS NO PWER UNTIL GOD DO SO,HE IS HUMAN,AND HE LIFT UP TO GOD.NOW ,MAYBE YOU PUT YOUR TRUST TO PERSON RATHER THAN TO GOD,REMEMBER GOD IS ALPHA & OMEGA,IN EVERYTHING GOD TAKES FIRST PLACE.AND GOD TIME IS THE BEST.OK!! HEAR MY TESTIMONY I HAVENT BEEN TO NIGERIA TOO SEEK GOD INTERVENTION,BUT I KNOW GOD HAS ODAINED SOME WOMEN & MEN IN THIS WORLD WHO CAN BE GOD VESSLS,I HAVE BEEN HAVING LOTS IN MY LIFE AND NOT EVEN HALF OF MY PROBLEMS ARE NOT YET SOLVED. BUT I KNOW GOD IS IN CONTROL NO ONE CAN STAND IN MY WAY OF MY BREAKTHROUGH AND BELEIVE THAT GOD TIME IS THE BEST.START TO PUSH HARD…. TILL YOU GET WHAT GOD HAS PUT FOR YOU.YOU DON’T KNOW, MAYBE YOU ARE TOMORROW’S GOD VESSEL.WAIT FOR THE LORD AND YOU WILL NEVER REGRET. I ‘VE TOLD MYSELF THAT I WON’T GET TIRED WAITING FOR THE LORD BECAUSE WHEN GOD OPEN NO ONE CAN CLOSE.BELIEVE IN HIM AND YOU WON’T REGRET.GOD IS GOD OF POSSIBLITIES AND THE GOD WE SERVE IS SO WONDERFUL AND HE IS ABLE TO DO THINGS EXCEEDINLY ABOVE ALL.HE IS ABLE DONT FORGET THAT HE IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!

  55. The ANC Youth League (ANCYL) has said it would not allow Nigerian preacher TB Joshua into the country.

    “TB Joshua should not be allowed to come to South Africa until we know what happened to our fellow countrymen at his church,” spokesperson Bandile Masuku said in a statement.

    “We will make sure we engage with the department of international relations and cooperation to make sure they do not issue him with a South African visa.”

    “This is important, as we demand answers on what happened to our compatriots at the Synagogue [Church of All Nations]. The South African government should also assist in this regard by sending a forensic team to assist the Nigerian government.”

    “Upon conclusion of these investigations, those found culpable should face the law without fear or favour.”

    Source: http://mg.co.za/article/2014-09-23-ancyl-to-block-tb-joshua-from-entering-sa

    I agree with the Youth League here! TBJ must not come here in South Africa, we have many false prophets already who make people eat grass. The last thing we need is for him to come here & do a PR exercise/damage control.

  56. SINCE THE JOURNALIST CLAIMED THEY REJECTED A BRIBE WHY DID WE NOT HEAR THEM TALK OF THE REJECTION OF THE BRIBE,, LIKE THIER WORDS OF REJECTING OF MONEY, IM SORRY FOR ALL OF THEM, THEY HAVE LIED AGAINST A MAN OF GOD AND GODS WRATH WILL BE UPON THEM.

    • ANC YOUTH LEAGUE SPEEKS LIKE A POLITITION.THEY ARE NOT TALKING LIKE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITH THE SPIRIT WORD.THE WORD OF GOD WILL NEVER PERISH EVEN IF EVERYTHING ON EARTH CAN PERISH.THE WORD OF GOD SAYS WE ARE ALL FOREIGNERS.THAT MEANS EVERYBODY ON THIS EARTH,WHETHER IN SOUTH,NORTH,EAST & WEST,GOD CAN VISIT YOU.IN OTHER WORDS EVERY DEATH IS PAINFUL AND REMAIN STIGMA TO THOSE INVOLVED.WHAT DO THEY SAY ABOUT THE FOREIGNERS WHO ARE DELIBERATLY KILLED BY FORM OF NECKLACE AND THEIR HOMES DESTROYED BY FIRE IN RSA, ARE THESE CAPABLE OF SUCH DEATH?IS THAT NOT CONSIDERED? I MEAN DELIBERATLY.IN THIS CASE THE CHURCH WAS ON SERVICE WHILE OUR FELLOW SOUTH AFRICANS WERE STILL AT THEIR ROOMS, MAYBE PRAYING OR STILL PREPARING THEMSELFS FOR THE SERVICE? I BELIEVE NOBODY KNEW WHAT GONNA HAPPEN THEN—- ACTUALLY BEAR IN MIND THAT, THERE, PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PLACES GOR THERE TO WORSHIP & PRAY. WHY OUR BROTHERS & SISTER WERE THE ONE DIED IN SO HUGE NUMBERS?WHERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES,I KEEP WONDER WHY US AND WHY DID IT HAS TO HAPPEN TO US,I FEEL SO SAD WHEN TALK LIKE THIS AS IF I AM NOT A SOUTH AFRICAN AND A CHRISTIAN TOO WHO KNOWS THAT WE HAVE GIVEN OUR LIFES TO GOD AND EVERYTHING WITH GOD IS POSSIBLE, IT HURTS SO MUCH BECAUSE WE HAVE LOST OUR PEOPLE BUT WHAT GIVES ME PEACE IS THAT THEY DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD.WHY CANT WE THANK GOD FOR THAT EVEN IF DEATH IS SO PAINFUL OUR BROTHERS DIED KNOWING IN THEIR HEARTS THAT THEY WERE THERE FOR GODS INTEVENTION IN THEIR LIVES.I WISH THE FAMILY OF THESE LOVES ONES CAN STILL TRUST IN THE LORD AND GOD WILL PROVIDE THEM ACCORDING TO HIS POWER AND AUTHORITY ABOVE.WHY DONT WE TAKE THIS AS GOD IS SAYING SOMETHING TO RSA.GUYS TBJ WAS IN CHURCH PREACHING AT THE TIMES.GOD AT TIMES LEAVE THINGS TO HAPPEN TO SUCH EXTEND THAT EVEN THE PROPHET CANT BE ACKNOWLDGE ABOUT THEM.ONLY GOD KNOWS WHY IT HAS TO HAPPEN AT A TIME SUCH AS THAT.MAY WE GIVE GOD THE GLORY BECAUSE RSA,GOD VISITED US. REMEMBER THE BLOOD THAT WAS SHERRED ON THE SOIL OF RSA,OUR BROS & SIS WE LOST CARELESSLY BY US PUTTING TIRES,BOOMING & KILLING INNOCENTS PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT SURPOSE TO DIE LIKE THAT ANT YOU HUMAN? WHERE IS THE SPIRIT OF UBUNTU!!!DONT WE THINK THAT GOD IS RECTIFING OUR LIFES,WHY DONT WE GIVE THANKS TO GOD AND GIVE HIM THE ADORATIONN HE DESERVE.LET US NOT JUDGE,LET US NOT POINT FINGERS,LET US LAY OUR LIFES BEFORE HIM.BECAUSE HE IS GOD AND HE IS IN CHARGE. AMEN

      • @Ian, my fellow countryman, let’s not make excuses for TBJ. Knowing how TBJ operates, if this disaster would have happened somewhere else, he would have probably released a heavily edited video to claim he predicted it. Let’s not fool ourselves. Let’s not romanticize this incident. This incident is yet another indication that TB Joshua sees nothing into the future. He is not a prophet [at least not of the God of the Bible].

        When people come to God, God is moved with compassion:

        Matthew 9:36 “But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them…”
        Matthew 14:14 “And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them…”

        If God was really in SCOAN, He would have certainly had compassion on those people who put in a lot of effort to save up money to get to Him. This just proves there is no God in SCOAN! Just last year there was a stampede that killed four people in SCOAN Ghana. From a spiritual perspective it is worrisome that so many people have died while seeking divine intervention through TBJ, a man who is “supposedly the greatest prophet” the world has seen since the time of Christ. This is unprecedented in the history of the Church! Do not be deceived, TB Joshua is false prophet of Matthew 24:24!

  57. Every one has his own opinion .Every person claims to know the existence of God but no one is talking about the sources behind . Wait .wait and remember God lives but satan also is amongst every dark secret. Just give it time he plays us all . God that we claim to know is far greater then any thing we cwn imagine. Be very vatefull what u say .there is only one God and he is not divided. So y r we.

  58. NONSENCE.YOU STRIP OFF COMMENTS THAT ARE NOT FAVOURING YOU AND YOU FAVOUR ONLY CRIMINAL TALKS LIKE U.GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU

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