Victims of the SCOAN building collapse

The current number killed by the collapsed building at SCOAN is 115. Many families have been devastated, at least two young children are now orphans after losing both their parents. Many are now suffering major injuries that may impact them for the rest of their life, including amputations and gangrene.

There is a time to kick up a fuss and demand justice is done, and there is a time to mourn with those who mourn. Let’s pray for those who have lost loved ones, and those who are injured. We encourage you to leave messages of condolence in the comments.

172 thoughts on “Victims of the SCOAN building collapse

  1. I am sick with anger and sorrow over this. Disgusted by TBJs self serving response, and disgusted by his lackeys who see nothing wrong with lying, bribing, and covering up. Truly, they think he is the messiah, because only the messiah could be sinless as TBJ is presented as being.

    I am HORRIFIED that there are so many people in the world that are willing to crawl in the dirt and lick his feet still, even after this disaster which is his responsibility. Still more horrified that some of the people who were in the collapsed building are so brainwashed that even now, they credit him and his ministry in some way for their salvation from the building. “It was God’s will.”

    Oh really? So why the rush to cover up and blame an airplane and blame Boko Haram, etc? If it was “God’s will”, there’s no need to blame anyone.

    • M Say, please disaster occurs to both christians and non christians be it building collapse, earthquake, tsunami, plane crash, etc. That it happened in a church premises and to a great Prophet of God does not still change this fact and the fact that TB Joshua is a great prophet of God.Death is a price every christian must pay, it doesn’t matter how it may come that is why we must stand ready at all time. Just watch what you say and please pray for the families of the victims and the man of God. You may not know the pains and sorrow he may be going through. Do you know how it feels to be genuinely used by God to see and solve people and nations problems and God decided to allow such a disaster to happen in your own premise. This is a test of faith for the Prophet and God will strengthen him. Mystery plane or not, God knows why it happened.

      • @ Okwy,

        Ofcourse when we would follow your train of thought, Death, by negligence is a christian attribute in the Spirit I suppose ? On the contrary.

        Ever heard about when you as a Christian get an accident that you cause that you are personally responsible for the damages and law suits whether you are a Christian or not ? I guess you come from a country where they don’t have Law imposed or rather Lawlessness so than one can do what they want without being sorted out by the law.

        Can we say then that this calamity was perhaps thought out long time ago and that he, TB Joshua forced his eldest daughter to study Law while she rather would have been a teacher. Hmmm.

        Why are TB Joshua followers such wriggly worms and always have an slithery answer to get away with killing, stealing and destroying. But their fruit you shall know them. If I have to sit in prison because I did something that is outside the Law of the Spirit, should I not be punished by the Law of the land ? Only in Nigeria and other rogue countries this is the case. Why you think Law is written ? Just for the show ? Or is it written for the outcome of Justice for the victim and those involved that perpetrated.

        Where do you read in the Bible that God has done away with the Law ? Not even Jesus who physically said, that He came to fulfil the Law and not take anything away from it. The Law is not applicable for those that walk in the Spirit. But Paul says clearly we uphold the Law. Where there is transgression there the Law is applied. Surely this is fair and right is it not ?

        Further I wish all family members involved my personal condolences for their personal loss and time of grief and frustration. There are no words to express of how one could be consoled in such a circumstance what has been unfolding in the last week. I pray that God will help you all in this deep untold disturbing time in where those who lost a loved one will be able to overcome their personal problems and other situations will be resolved.

      • One thing I know, TBJ is still alive, and suffered no injury, unlike hundreds of his victims. Stop minimizing the damage he did to others through his negligence.

        This is not a natural disaster, nor was it any kind of attack. This was CRAP building. He had his guesthouse expanded improperly and illegally, and because of that, people died. He was greedy, people died. That is not an “accident”, nor in any way comparable to a natural disaster such as a tsunami.

        Whether or not you’re totally OK with people suffering and dying as a result of this, the Biblical and legal truth is that it is unjust and morally reprehensible to create suffering, which is what TBJ did. If “we all die anyway” is acceptable to you, then you should not complain about Boko Haram slaughtering people in Nigeria. You should not speak a word against abortion. Everybody dies anyway, so why speak up about unjust and criminal causes of death? That is your reasoning, taken to its logical conclusion. I know it is not God’s reasoning because Jesus was very vocal about the abomination of injustice and cruelty towards others.

        TBJ has solved exactly ZERO international problems. I doubt very much whether he solved anybody’s personal problems, because you all claim he has done so while yammering about how you may not see it yet but the change is there, you’re sure of it.

        I certainly pray for the victims and their families.

        I pray that TBJ receives the justice due to him, and repents before it is too late.

      • You say these foolish words because you haven’t lost a loved one from this satanicly perpetrated incidence. You declare this fraud a man of God, and you can hardly discern the way he misrepresent the word, calling his victims martyrs. He has killed gullible well meaning ignorant people who are not even saved and you salute him for that. You applaud him when he makes a mockery of them calling martyrs! What’s wrong with you people?

      • @OWKY TB Joshua should be charged with homicide, he must explain why there were people inside the building which is under construction, what were people who were visiting his church doing inside the building which is being renovated?

    • To:M

      you talk foolish words as if you not a Christian,I wish God could open you spiritual eyes so that you cannot speak like this.You condemning other believers when you say such words.So please decide instead to live in such a way that will not cause other believers to stumble or fall.If you dont hve anything to say please just keep quite rather than judging others.

      God bless you.

      • @ Anointed,

        I would like to know how your spiritual eyes are open. Go on describe it to me ? Is the the third eye, is it coming out of your body, is it staring at someone, go on tell how your spiritual eyes work ? Please don’t come with sweet babblings, I want the evidence from you how you see in the Spirit. And how you acquired it and by what means.

    • We’ll never live forever in this planet but neglect should not be tolerated. Devil saw an opportunity to get blood from poor people through negligence of certain individuals. Si if it’s proved beyond all doubts that someone was of this faulty building, that person must face legal charges. May God be with all families in tears.

  2. In times like this….we need “prayer”!!

    I pity the Man of God.. T.B JOSHUA.
    We need to pray fo him to strong in times like this.

    • “I pity the man of God TB Joshua.” Are you serious???????? Are these your words of condolences to the ones who are suffering due to this tragedy?
      I wonder…if it came to it….would you all who support fanatically SCOAN and TB Joshua, stand up in the same manner for Christ?
      Sorry to say, but your priorities are really screwed up.

    • Pity yourself because you’re so deceived and under his spell and have neglected to test the spirits and hid the warning of 1Tim 4:1-2. Wake up and read the word for yourself before it’s too late

    • Yes times like this we need prayer let us talk good things wen he did bad 2 people….let us cntinue talking good things about pastor n pray for him wen knw that u lost ur loved ones we also feel srry for the families n pastor he wl stil remain as a man of God no 1 can change that read.first corentains 2v2

    • Amen! May He mobilise true prayer warriors in South Africa to stand on the gap and prevent the launching of this synagogue of Satan in South Africa. This mass killing is a ritual to lay a foundation of this cult in our country

      • Now that “someone somewhere” has fully understood the secret purpose of this massive “ritual killing” to acquire more power and status as is common place in Nigerian politics & religions likewise Africa in general, let me open the spiritual eyes of our true Christian brethren here a little. This prophet is now desperate to relocate his spiritual base of operation to a “spiritually friendly” country as the prayers of the few Elects of God resident in Nigeria is becoming too much of a torment for him and his operating demons to cope with. Hence it is mandatory for him to first sacrifice many “heads” from the land where the new proxy altar will be set up even as it was initially done in the present altar. Believe it or not, many occultists are required to submit the “heads” of their family members or loved ones as human sacrifices to their demonic gods for power, wealth, position, promotion and so on. So it is in the satanic realm of witchcraft, marinism & occultism pioneered by Nimrod the great occult grandmaster of old and hunter of the souls of men he initiated into the satanic kingdom of Babel or Babylon (Genesis 10:9).

        Indeed words are indescribable to console the bereaved but sometimes justice served is also a source of consolation. If the murderer of our loved one is locked behind bars it helps to reduce and ameliorate the pain of such a terrible loss; conversely if the murderer is still walking free and talking trash about him coming to our house every month to visit and bless us…Lord have mercy, we might flip out and “take him out”, out of provocation if you catch my drift. There is a beast in every man but civilized men restrain it…especially as a Christian. Therefore we must mourn with our South African brethren and other nationalities with one mind while demanding justice with one mouth!

        But I guess the South African people are wise and bold enough to know how to checkmate this new threatening move of Satan from his “special prophet” to set up a “proxy altar” in their land by detaining him the minute he arrives for proper legal investigation, interrogation and possible prosecution over this unfortunate affair; quite unlike my fellow corrupt and jinxed Nigerian people who encourage such prophets to thrive in their midst and have sadly made Nigeria become the global headquarters of false prophets & ministries from Orthodox to Pentecostal to White Garment churches since the Nigerian preacher Benson Idahosa first brought Pentecostalism from America to Africa about 30 years ago. That is why you see many of my Nigerian compatriots posting shameless comments in support of such shameless evil acts hence Nigerians are now ridiculed and renown for so many evil acts like 419 internet fraud; boko haram terrorism; militancy; insurgency; religious riots; incessant plane crashes; corrupt politicians, journalists & officials; human rights abuses by security operatives and of course false pastors, prophets & churches. No wonder the Bible says…Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach indeed!

        Thank God we still have a few decent Nigerians left who still stand by and for the truth regardless: like the incorruptible Journalist who refused to accept bribe from the prophet and the courageous Lawyer who intends to sue the prophet if the Lagos state is too much of a chicken to do it!

        To correct a popular trend on this forum about always praying for that false prophet to repent which is as futile as praying for Judas Iscariot to repent after he betrayed Jesus Christ; kindly save your godly breath for you need not pray for the repentance of such chronic and confirmed false prophets from the satanic mountain of Esau who have sold their souls to Satan like Judas Iscariot the son of perdition & destruction and seared their conscience like Ananias & Saphira who blatantly lied to the Holy Ghost as theirs is the scriptural sin against the Holy Ghost that can never ever be forgiven from eternity to eternity (Luke 12:10…unto him that blasphemeth [sins] against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven).

        When these guys go out of their way to fight against the Kingdom of God by seeking to stand at the cross-roads and be misleading back to hell those believers whom the Holy Ghost has saved from the clutches of hell with the precious Blood of Christ shed on the cross for them, they horribly offend HIM and that without the remedy of repentance (Obadiah1:9-10,14,15…to the end that every one of the mount of Esau [false prophets] may be cut off by slaughter, for thy violence against thy brother Jacob [true believers] shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off forever…Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his [saved believers] that did escape [from hell];…as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head…).

        That is why the Bible calls them the enemies of the Cross of Christ whose eternal judgment has been predetermined like that of Judas Iscariot even before their death making it impossible for them to ever repent even if they seek to do so with lamentations of tears and sorrow. (Philippians 3:18-19…For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they [false prophets] are the “enemies of the cross of Christ:” Whose end is [eternal] destruction whose God is their belly, and whose glory is their shame, who mind earthly things [human praise & worship]…)

        (2Peter 2:1-3…But they were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers [pastors] among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many [deceived believers] shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth [sound doctrine] shall be evil spoken of.[rejected]. And through their covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of [extort] you: whose [eternal] judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their [eternal] damnation slumbereth not…).

        The Bible says (not I) that they have brought on themselves a “swift destruction and final judgment that will not linger or slumber until they are consumed forever in eternal damnation, just like Esau who sold his birth right for a morsel of bread but could no longer find a place of repentance though he sought it with tears because for him it was too late (Hebrews 12:16-17…lest there be any fornicator, or profane person like Esau [false prophets], who for a morsel of meat [tithes & offerings] sold his birthright. For ye know that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears…).

        The self explanation is clearly seen all through the scripture as all manner of sinners repented, be they liars, fraudsters, oppressors, thieves, robbers, prostitutes, fornicators, publicans, wicked kings, demoniacs, magicians, satanists, even pharisees (like Paul); but never ever did a single false prophet ever repent from Genesis to Revelation. Search and see for yourself, you will find none. Know why? Because they are regarded as the “Sons of Esau” who God personally declared that He “hates” even as He “loves” the Sons of Jacob! As the Bible says…Jacob have I loved, Esau have I hated! Whatever God hates, He hates for ever and must be eternally destroyed like sin which we all know God hates.

        Therefore whom the Word of God has judged and condemned let no man defend and commend. As it is written…He that leadeth into captivity [of hell], shall go into [the same] captivity…Revelation 13:10!

        I Rest My Case,
        Brother Nosa.

  3. Mind you, am not a member of SCOAN nor have I ever visited SCOAN but I know TB Joshua is a true prophet of God irrespective of what ignorant people who does not have the discernment spirit say. Please Respect that man of God, there are very few of his kind in the world, Take time to pray without a bias mind and ask God who is TB Joshua is

    • @ Okwy,

      We can without his kind who allow their sheep to die before the time of their life is starting like those 9 year olds who died.

      Maybe when it happens to your own family, you might think different. We don’t even know yet, for example that a mother and a father were in there and both died and left the children behind. How awful this would be for those children. No matter of consoling words could even express such pain for them. You can quote all the scriptures what you want and tell all the things about God, but they would not experience such as a resolve to their fate. In a video they say, that who is from above longs to be there, oh yeah ? What about Methuselah who became 969 years old and was born from Enoch who walked WITH GOD, imagine what Methuselah has seen in his father ? Besides This was not necessary if the greed for more and better was not the prerogative in ministry in SCOAN. There is a saying. He who wants have everything from the bottom of the can will get the lid on his nose. Apparently that kind of wisdom does not exist in SCOANS followers as well himself.

  4. These are my fellow countrymen, I feel for them especially the kids. My condolences.
    I heard that some of them are from the township I grew up in, I just haven’t established if I know some of them.
    Fellow South Africans I implore you all, let’s redirect our faith away from [this false prophet] TB Joshua to [the bread of life] Jesus Christ Son of God.

    • Yes, let’s come together and pray a hedge of protection around our country against this cult from launching. There are supposedly ministers of God who are caged because they got deceived by this cult, and have led a lot of people astray. Let’s pray for their restoration. Let the blood of those who have died in this incidence not be use to launch a satanic ministry in our country

  5. Although I do not know you, the survivors and your families and the families of the deceased. I am praying for you and am sitting with you, grieving and in mourning. I am shocked. I feel your pain. In my heart I have unbearable pain for what happened to you. I keep on thinking that all you wanted was to go to Jesus Christ for help and now you sit in this lifelong situation. I can just say; “Take heart, Jesus knows of every hair that falls from your head. He will comfort you himself. I carry your painful hurt in my heart for all of you every hour and am thinking about your situation continuously”. It just is an unbelievable situation for me and it angers me.

    Earlier, the SABC reported that 10 of the injured had undergone surgery on Monday night. It reported that most of them had sustained fractures.

  6. My thoughts and prayers go to the families who have lost loved ones,
    and also to the people are recovering from injuries.

  7. SA doctors operate on 11

    Among those wheeled into theatre was Durban businessman, Daniel Chetty, 48, whose foot was amputated on Monday night -21 September 2014.

    “People were not rescued immediately and that made it worse,” Chetty said.

    The wife said THE FAMILY DID NOT WANT TO MEET THE LEADER OF THE COLLAPSED CHURCH BUILDING, televangelist TB Joshua, who plans to visit South Africa.

    THE NIGERIAN DOCTER who initially described Chetty’s condition as “fine and not serious” to the Daily News said: “HE HAD BEEN GIVEN INSTUCTIONS BY OFFICIALS FROM THE CHURCH OF ALL NATIONS, OWNERS OF THE COLLAPSED BUILDING, NOT TO DIVULGE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EXTENT OF CHETTY’S INJURIES TO THE MEDIA”.

    http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/sa-doctors-operate-on-11-1.1755008

    • ha ha ha ha ha,people are not afraid of lying against man of GOD,tb joshua doesn’t use oil,another idiot saying he used oil to heal him and paid 150 ,everybody who has been to that scoan ,faith will never be shaken,no mattter how u try to lie against this man

      • @ Misto,

        Let’s look at this picture of the alleged plane that someone had on their phone as evidence. Would you agree that this picture of the alleged C130-J could be used and photoshopped then turned the other way and superimposed along side the Hostel of SCOAN building and put on a cell phone to prove that this was indeed a “C130-J” ? The resemblance of using this picture is uncanny and very likely so it is the one used to deceive us that this plane flew there, because on the security camera footage it is not visible as an C130-J. Answer me yes or no ? (very hard for SCOAN followers, because they are always dodging questions when evidence stares them in the face and go berserker).

        http://theaviationist.com/2013/06/24/largest-c130j-formation/

        Please let anyone tell me it is not so and tell me right here and TBJW that you deny it ?

    • Prophet TB Joshua will never pay any body to substantiate God’s healing power in him. I still don’t understand why people waste their precious time to fabricate uneccessary lies against a man that every aspect of his ministry is documented from the very humble beginning to date. You need not to be fooled, tune in to Emmanuel TV channels and decides for yourselves, all the factual evidences are there, both past and present testmonies. Synagogue Church of all Nations (SCOAN) is GOD’S ministry built out of the most difficult circumstances, and currently reaching out to many people across the Glob. My sincere condolences to families of the recent tragedy, may God Almight intercede on their behalves in dealing with the pain and loss.

      • So what you are saying is this: if Charles Manson, back in the late 60’s,-before the atrocities had taken place- owned a tv channel and portrayed himself as a benefactor and philanthropist, by projecting such deeds even in the name of Jesus, on a daily basis, this would be concrete evidence to declaring him a saint?
        One of SCOAN’s quotable quotes says: Packaging is deceptive. And I agree completely. I have experienced it at SCOAN.
        As for the beginning which was recorded, the prayer and fasting I mean, would you really bring a camera along when God Almighty called you to secluded prayer and fasting, concerning even a higher calling?
        Or would you be in awe and just forget everything and obey with the Fear of The Lord in your heart?
        And if we are talking about representation this ISN’T factual.

    • It is a fact that buildings have collapse every where across the world and thus, this would not be the last. The important thing at the moment is how to assist the grieving families in dealing with the tragedy and, in rebuilding their lives. All these insinuations will never take away the obvious fact that the building at the church premises collapse and killed 115 innocent souls who went to seek spiritual enrichment and God’s presence. At the moment the investigation has been taken over by team of experts to detetmine the truth behinde the collapse. How any body would have covered up the fact about this tragedy is mind burgling except for those who derive joy from this tragedy

  8. 115 lost! And who knows how many more severely injured for life? What can one say at such moments of grief and pain to those who are REALLY being tested, the families. And what can one say to young children who are orphaned for no apparent reason? Words are not enough….
    May our Heavenly Father, our Advocator Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit of Truth and Comfort, console your hearts, heal your wounds in time, and provide so that your loss is not unbearable.
    It is written. There is a time and season for everything under the sun. Now is time of being compassionate to those who are lamenting. Just as Jesus was compassionate to the multitudes and made a point to meeting their needs, may all those who are responsible and in a position of authority care for your own.
    And may God Almighty, who is a Righteous God, intervene so as to settle the kind of justice which is rightfully yours.

  9. Why don’t we all patiently wait for investigations to completed and then comment? Whilst waiting we pray for all those injured and in hospitals, pray that God strengthens family members discomfort those who lost loved ones! Let us unite in love and support our man of God. TB Joshua helps many people around the world and i believe that he must be pardoned if at all he’s guilty! We world need people like him.

    • Cecilia, the important thing at the moment is to assist the affected families, both the deceased and injured, in rebuilding their lives and in dealing with the pain and loss. The tragedy present a big challenge and lesson to most countries, concerning strict enforcement of building code and regulations. Prophet TB Joshua need to lend his unwavering and sincere support to the grieving and affected families, to investigationg, in finding out the truth. As regards to forgiving him, I don’t know what he has done, some body was paid by him to construct that building, the architect, engineer, specifically the contractor of the project. In addition, buildings have collapsed all over the world, some thing need to done to circumvent this trend.

  10. God is faithful to those that love Him and are called according to his purpose! May God open our spiritual eyes so we can see beyond the incident! Family members are in pain and children lost their parents, the best that can be done is to support all those affected in prayer and other means! TB Joshua is welcome in our country South Afrca, WE LOVE HIM! HE IS OUR FATHER!

    • @ Cecila,

      Matthew 23: 8″But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9″Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10″Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.…”

      This is what Jesus says, why do you do otherwise ?

      • Good point Jesse. There is One Father, our Heavenly Father, One Teacher, the Holy Spirit and One Leader, Jesus Christ. Leaders, teachers and fathers in the Old Testament sense are not valid any more. The New Testament has come to perfect the Old, “filling” in all that was insufficient due to the Law. What most people don’t understand is the term “Grace”. Most misinterpret it for Mercy. Studying the book of Romans and Galatians being guided by the One and Only Teacher, the Holy Spirit, revelation and sound doctrine on this matter will arise.

  11. How can you keep silent when your family and friends are involved and you do not know where they are?
    When I phoned -scoan – 12 September 2014 – and asked if my loved ones are OK, after I heard on the news that the building collapsed, they told me that nothing happened there. I told them to stop lying and call one of them. They just said; “They are not there to come to the phone and asured me that nothing has happened and that they will give them a message to phone me back”. I said to the woman who answered; “That she is working for the lying department in the ‘church’”. Well up to now, not one of my people got in contact with me, or anyone of them, although I got news that they are alive and not hurt from a group leader that came back.
    I want them to read the truth that is placed on this blog, when they come out. I want them to see how TB Joshua is a lair. I want them to see the true news not tarnished by his controlling lies and manipulation as a dangerous cult leader. It is for them that I do this.

    • It is very easy to criticise other people, but the fact is that no body is perfect including your self except GOD ALMIGHT. The funny thing is that you mentioned some verses in the scripture but you are full of hate. I have been to SCOAN many times in the past, I often wondered how those that render their services are able to cope with enormous work they are faced with at every given time. It was difficult to get through to those telephone numbers under normal times how much more on those caotic period of time. I hope the people in charge of communication in the ministry must learn from this tragedy, at least establish a call centre to deal with the volume of calls from all over the world.

  12. Just to proof that TB Joshua is a fake. He staged prayer in his prayer line for people whose feet are rotting off or legs rotting off, BUT when the real thing happens he ran away. When gangreen set into his guests’ feet and leg, he commands the docters to keep silent about it? And him and or his wise men did not go and pray for them in the hospitals. Now, afterwards he has a sudden attack of ‘compassion’ and wants to come to SA to do what? Really! It is too late dude. I hope some people will start to wake up to his deceptive lies.
    Perilous Times and Perilous Men
    3 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.
    The Man of God and the Word of God
    10 But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, 11 persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra—what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. 13 BUT EVIL MEN AND IMPOSTERS WILL GROW WORSE AND WORSE, DECEIVING AND BEING DECEIVED THEMDELVES. 14 But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus – 2 Timothy 3

  13. If TB Joshua had not brought up the juvenile UFO conspiracy slant, I would be more patient. But my & the victims’ intelligence is being insulted right left and center.

    While bridges have been known to collapse out of soldiers marching on the, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angers_Bridge and other far less violent causes, they all point to WEAKNESSES in the structures not conspiracies.

    The SCOAN saw some years as a two storey structure. Three more are added and it comes down. It does not take dreams and visions or spiritual discernment to see that the extra weight caused this. When it is further demonstrated that the extension was not approved, no amount of tears and pain should distract us from the fact that TB Joshua is criminally liable for this.

    Let not some super ‘spiritual’ believers imagine that calling for TB Joshua arrest and mourning & praying with the victims are mutually exclusive

    • @ Vooke,

      See my findings above what I replied to Misto. Watch the C130-J picture which I believe have used to make a story credible. You know they stop at nothing and the picture of that plane fits perfectly if you slant it the other way to the right with Photoshop. They put it on a small phone with a small display and you even see the outlining of a layer on the picture they posted of this picture on the the internet. A sort of ghosting aura. Which looks it is cut out and superimposed along side the building. People very rarely take pictures of aeroplanes, mainly because you need physically move the camera with the flight path the plane is flying. I have done this several times myself and I know from personal experience it is very hard to do. Many times I missed the target and you will only see blue sky no plane. The person with the phone uses a small phone with very small screen, which makes it even harder to make the picture because the plane is not standing still in the air it keeps moving hence you need to move the camera ahead of the target in order to capture it right in the frame. Do you see this man capable of doing so if he never would have done something like that ? Also this is the only picture existing of the plane. Why did nobody else make one from different angles.

      Here is the picture again: http://theaviationist.com/2013/06/24/largest-c130j-formation/

      And see what I mean.

      • @Jesse You could be right about it being superimposed, but I don’t think it’s from that picture. You can tell the angle of the shot is different from the distance between the wings and the tail. It’s a similar angle, but not identical. I’m fairly certain the plane in the photo is not the plane from the video though.

      • @ TBJW,

        It is very easy to change the pixilation and change the way things are in photoshop even add things.

        Check how they change a 100 year old woman to a young lady.

        They use photoshop inside SCOAN, I even know some of them of who they are.

  14. Insurer Wants TB Joshua Prosecuted for Flouting Compulsory Public Building Insurance

    He therefore declared that Joshua, being the owner of the church and guest house should be prosecuted for violating provisions of the compulsory insurance of public buildings.
    “The collapsed guest house is a public building going by the definition of the law and if it was not insured accordingly, the owner, Prophet T. B. Joshua is culpable. Government should prosecute him now for breach of the compulsory building insurance law,” he said.
    Otherwise known as “Occupiers Liability Insurance,” the insurance of public buildings, whether owned by individuals or government; is mandated by the Insurance Act, 2003 and the Lagos State Building Control Law, 2010.

    Section 65(1) of Insurance Act, 2003 provides that “Every public building shall be insured with a registered insurer against the hazards of collapse, fire, earthquake, storm and flood.”

    http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/insurer-wants-tb-joshua-prosecuted-for-flouting-compulsory-public-building-insurance/189759/

    • Just Wonder, how I wish you were God, no man will still be living today. There are many things in life beyond our human comprehension even when you have adopted the best practice and taken utmost care, they are bound to happen. Avoid expressing yourself out of hatred and anger. True vengeance belongs to God. Strong men forgive while weak men revenge but that does not in any way suggest that TB joshua was responsible for the collapse. The world by their human definition could hold him responsible but he may not be. I lost my only child as a result of a doctors carelessness by human definition but I know he has no intention to kill my child and it will never had happened if GOd did not allow it, so as a christian with understanding of God’s undeserved mercy, I refused to act foolishly. Today we are best of friends and I have no grudges in my heart and God has blessed me in different ways. TB Joshua is a true man of GOD whether you take it or not. God will comfort the families of the victims as HE did to me

      • @ Okwy,

        “even when you have adopted the best practice and taken utmost care, they are bound to happen.”

        In countries that are governed by the Law of the land, one who acts in negligence and deliberate disregard is punishable by law. This why we insure, pay respect to the speed limits, traffic rules, acts of terrorism, murder, material destruction of personal property, and the like.

        In normal European countries this is so, in America this is so, in Canada this so, in South America this is so, in Russia this is so, in Asia this this is so, but in Africa most people get away with theft, scams, corruption, 419 scams, lying and destruction. That is why you are saying it and in this way you deceive others.

        And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses sat to judge the people: and the people stood by Moses from the morning unto the evening. (‭Exodus‬ ‭18‬:‭13‬ KJV)

        And they judged the people at all seasons: the hard causes they brought unto Moses, but every small matter they judged themselves. (‭Exodus‬ ‭18‬:‭26‬ KJV)

        When they have a matter, they come unto me; and I judge between one and another, and I do make them know the statutes of God, and his laws. (‭Exodus‬ ‭18‬:‭16‬ KJV)

        For all manner of trespass, whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, or for any manner of lost thing, which another challengeth to be his, the cause of both parties shall come before the judges; and whom the judges shall condemn, he shall pay double unto his neighbour. (‭Exodus‬ ‭22‬:‭9‬ KJV)

        Where do you base your assessment on Okwy ? On your own self righteousness or when found guilty is it the law of the Land that judges people because of neglect. I know this is hard for you to accept, but this is how it is done and Jesus wants us to do this SO WE CAN live in peace. UNLESS THERE IS THE REVEALING OF THE LAWLESSNESS MAN LIKE YOU ARE NOW !

        2 Thessalonians 2 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

        Stop being ignorant and come out of your spiritual ignorance and learn.

      • @OKWY
        You are good at mixing issues
        Since you have taken the liberty of sharing your personal life, let’s examine it further. What if the doctor/hospital claimed that there was a solar eclipse around the same time in the hospital that made the doctor dizzy or something,and that is what caused the death? Whether you chose to forgive and forget or not, you would feel insulted. The doc blames the moon and expects you to be friends?

        Same case here. As long as intelligent men are being given stupid excuse for the building collapse,trust there to be indignation at the charlatan. We may love and hug him but not when he is in denial mode.

        Is he a true MoG? Study the evidence of his elaborate and serial deception here surrounding his prophecies and we can exchange notes after that

      • @ OKWY,

        “God will comfort the families of the victims as HE did to me”

        You are hiding in your religion that God must do this. You could not even start to guarantee this to people you don’t know personally as being their spokesman. How absurd, how cowardly too for excusing yourself like that. What do you know about their personal faith ? A one answer solution fit all is just disgusting. Clearly you have no clue how people personally experience their grief and problems flowing out of this. With all your “helping” you are not helping at all, you make it worse, so that one can walk freely away from negligence and deliberate disregard for life. Only when TB Joshua appears before God when he is judged before His Throne we must all accept His Righteous Judgment.

        You personally want to do it away in this earth and replace it with being lawlessness. I see in no wise Jesus condone this, unless it came from Him personally. And there is no way that you can convince me that Jesus already has dropped an Email from Heaven that that is so. I suggest TB Joshua continue to repent before heaven and earth and step down from your self elevated position and go translate bibles in Mongolia. You have lost many sheep now because of neglect and deliberate ignorance, even those that left your church because of your attitude and deception. Yet still you call yourself a Pastor.

        Luke 15:4-5 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.

        You did no such thing TB Joshua and Wisemen. You did not sort out your differences, you did not leave your offering in front of the altar, you went on a spree of your own agenda to enlarge yourself through the flesh and now you are suffering under your choices you made. Take responsibility for your actions.

        Matthew 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

        None of you did TB Joshua, none of that, you were too busy with yourself and others.

      • Jessey,You are already biased about TB Joshua and there is nothing anyone can say to pacify or convince you..You may say you are seeking justice for the victim but I only want to advice you to change your mentality, because not “everything that is fair is just” and not everything that counts can be counted. You may have convince people that adding extra floor is the cause of the collapse, l tell you, that is only within the circumference of our sensual knowledge, but it may be beyond what you think except you are saying that God hates the victims which I believe He loves them and will comfort their love ones. God does not judge as man does . If you are a true born again christian as I observed you quote bible, you should understand me.Your words are adding more pains to the families.. What they need now is scriptural mentality and Godly consolation and not incitement or hatred

      • @ Okwy,

        “you are saying that God hates the victims which I believe He loves them and will comfort their love ones”

        I never said anything that God hates the victims. Don’t know we’re you got it from my words.

        I know personally of a man that nearly lost all his family members in one year and has no children and with him the family name will be wiped out from this earth. There was no amount of words to speak out to this man to be consoled about such loss and up till today the question of this man is, Why had God have to do this ? To take everything away ?

  15. TB JOSHUA IS A REAL MAN OF GOD, I HAVE SEEN THAT AS MANY TIMES AS IN THE VISION. BEIELVE ME OR NOT, THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH

  16. @ Evan,

    Ezekiel 13:7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?

    Ezekiel 13:9
    Verse Concepts
    “So My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations They will have no place in the council of My people, nor will they be written down in the register of the house of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel, that you may know that I am the Lord GOD.

    Ezekiel 21: 29 while they see for you false visions, while they divine lies for you– to place you on the necks of the wicked who are slain, whose day has come, in the time of the punishment of the end.

    Ezekiel 13:9

    So My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations They will have no place in the council of My people, nor will they be written down in the register of the house of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel, that you may know that I am the Lord GOD.

    Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, (‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭18‬ KJV)

    Your deception is uncovered Evan.

  17. Yet again, all we see is the theory: ALL FOR ONE, as in SCOAN supporters towards their leader. You cry for remorse towards the victims but just can’t go without a minute not expressing your adoration towards your leader. Visions, the “voice” of God, shouting and kicking, cursing and rebuking, and ready to fall for just about anything that may be in favor of this ministry. It is almost as if people are afraid to be one on one with Jesus without human intercessors.
    PS. Just Wonder carry on posting the raw facts. It has helped immensely.
    Knowledge is power and the deceiver knows this. 😉

  18. Thank you Jeremiah for the encouragement. I have quite a few years behind my back of standing for the truth. These tipes of immature and childish screaming and shout and cursing from ignorant people does not touch me. It just proofs that we am touching a sore spot in them. To change me they must bring proof that these facts are wrong. I feel so sorry for them, because TB Joshua and most of the world’s famous preachers bring a gospel these days that does not save. Maybe, just maybe the truths placed on this web will stir an awakening in them. The fact that they are prepared to look on this web already says something. Why are they here anyway? They are inquisitive, maybe the light of God will down on them.

    • Just Wonder, you are right! When I first came across this site a few years ago, although an active member of SCOAN, I couldn’t help being intrigued because of the doubts I had concerning some aspects of the ministry. When I decided to follow 100%, putting my doubts aside, I just never entered here in order not to be “influenced” negatively. The fact that so many SCOAN followers do and even comment, means something is not quite right in their minds even if they don’t admit it.

  19. death is death prophecy no prophesy even JESUS did predict his death we should not waste time criticising the man of GOD .WE WILL ALL DIE.

    • @ Msowoya,

      Mawhahahaha, you did the joke of the week. Don’t you have anything else to do than sending curses on blogs ?

      Psalm 118:17 King James Version (KJV)

      17 I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the Lord.

      You are such a silly man. Ignorance is bliss. Did you also know when you speak curses, it first curses yourself, so better think again before you curse ever again. Because you are latching demons on your words.

      Deuteronomy 30:19 King James Version (KJV)

      19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 20 That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

      You rather love your false prophet than people who are innocent. You are hilarious and at the same time pathetic.

  20. Mathew 7:1 “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? …”

    1 Cor 4:2 “Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.
    3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man’s judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
    4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
    5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.”

    Wow! Who obeys scripture anymore? Jesus commanded us not to judge each other and Paul added that we are not to judge anything before the time until the Lord comes back and will tell who was right and who was wrong. People clearly look for every loophole and come up with a thousand excuses to justify themselves for refusing to obey these scriptures.

      • Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
        11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
        12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

        Romans 14 goes along with the other scriptures about not judging before the time, Yes in Romans 14 they were discussing what a person chooses to eat, but he concluded with the same idea repeated in the other scriptures – WAIT until the time. Anyone who chooses to judge their brother invites judgment upon themselves. Jesus warns us not to judge, why? Because the same harsh way you judge others, YOU will be judged, that’s what it says. That means that if you had a backyard deck built on the back of your house and a child leaned on the railing that accidently broke and was seriously injured YOU will be shown NO mercy either. To call for TB Joshua to be arrested without knowing all of the facts is just what Jesus was talking about. Harshly judging your brother before the case is fully investigated is a rush to judgment. Jesus warns how you treat others you will be treated. That means for the rest of your life, you better be careful to never make a mistake, because you will be judged for it just as harshly and as mercilessly as you are judging TB Joshua.

        John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

  21. Watchman…. “There are supposedly ministers of God who are caged because they got deceived by this cult, and have led a lot of people astray. Let’s pray for their restoration”…..
    You know, I have spoken with three people that got delivered, just by themselves, after the collapsed building of TB Joshua. Vomiting, coughing and urinating…. And all felt delivered from something afterward? All was involved with scoan in the past and left after discovering the truth about the place. I feel that the collapsed building is a symbolic sign of what happened in the spiritual world. This is amazing to us and we are keeping an eye on other people as well.

  22. Why I put out the TB Joshua bribery audio

    BY NICHOLA IBEKWE
    The last 72 hours were probably the most intense in my life. The love, kind words and support I’ve received in that period from, mostly, total strangers have been overwhelming. I want to thank everybody who saw the good in what I did. Though, to be honest, I think it was a little stupid. What was I thinking putting my life and probably my career on the line in an attempt to change something so entrenched it seems unchangeable? But really I’m not fazed by the trash talk from those allergic to the truth.
    It’s a long time coming and someone has to put the Big Ben on the fat cat, I guess.
    During the same period I’ve also been insulted like never before. I’ve been called the most uncomplimentary names and all the curses in Deuteronomy hurled towards me. They should be ashamed that the brushed ego of their spiritual Godfather meant more to them than the over 90 lives that perished under the rubble.

    http://www.thecable.ng/why-i-put-out-the-tb-joshua-bribery-audio

  23. @Jesse and Just Wonder, this incident is an accident, a very unfortunate one for that matter, our friends died, people we knew very closely. Almost all provinces in .SA are affected but we choose to love and forgive. Being angry and insulting to a man of God will only attract dire consequences! I understand how you both feel just learn to separate issues! And ask yourself this question “what is it that hurt me so much that i want to take it out on the man of God TB Joshua?

    • @ Cecilia,

      “Being angry and insulting to a man of God will only attract dire consequences! ”

      The bible says be angry but sin not.

      So what dire consequences are that ? I have been here for many years and no consequences have been happening. As a matter of fact I am and the rest of my family are extremely blessed and reasonably healthy. So what do you deem have to happen to me ? Why are you thinking that something will be happening in the first place ? Why are you speaking these silly word curses to another child of a God ? Do you know what Ducks back is ? It means your words slide off my back as water on a ducks back.

      Let me also remind you of,

      Proverbs 26:2 King James Version (KJV)

      2 As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come.

      So your words will do nothing, nor that of a false prophet. Stop wasting your time and wag your pathetic index finger to me as TB Joshua does.

      Like this and what does it mean ? http://youtu.be/QoZdRglQMrs

      Could you tell me Cecilia ?

      • @ Cecilia,

        Since you don’t answer me about the finger pointing let me show what it means the in the case of TB Joshua.

        7570: Moving the finger during Tashahhud

        I’ve seen people move their finger up and down during tashahud. Is this Sunna?.
        Praise be to Allaah.

        Firstly:

        It is proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to point with his index finger and move it during the tashahhud when praying.

        The scholars differed concerning that and there are several points of view.

        1 – The Hanafis say that the finger should be raised when saying “Laa (no)” in the phrase “Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (I bear witness that there is no god except Allaah)” and it should be lowered when saying, “ill-Allaah (except Allaah).”

        2 – The Shaafa’is say that it should be raised when saying “ill-Allaah.”

        3 – The Maalikis say that it should be moved right and left until one finishes the prayer.

        4 – The Hanbalis say that one should point with the finger when saying the name of Allaah, without moving it.

        Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: There is no basis for any of these definitions and manners in the Sunnah. The closest of them to the correct view is the Hanbali view, were it not that they limited raising the finger to when saying the name of Allaah.

        Tamaam al-Minnah, p. 223.

        So now your turn to explain it. Are we dealing here that TB Joshua is a hidden Muslim and a false prophet as well we know that his parents were Muslim.

        What do have to say Cecilia ? I come with proof, what do you come with ? All the time excuses to vilify your false private prophet. Who is declaring Christians as martyrs ? What right does he have ? A building that collapsed Cecilia and cause great distress, but not him. He just carries on and tells us that who is from above longs to be there. So let me ask you, why is he still here then ? Oh wait, people like him have others for him to stand in the gap and as long as he can get out of it he will. Mr General, you go first in the firing line ok, just like David did to Batsheba’s husband. Go die first in front of me, let me carry on with my deception as he does and you still defend him ?

  24. @ All,

    I have noticed there is a strange cut on the right side of the face of TB Joshua at the height of the right eye cheek where the skull starts. He did not have this lets say 6 months ago. I have just noticed this since I have not been watching EmmTV for a while.

    Usually this type of cuts of this nature are done by Witch doctors to initiate children or young people in to spiritual attachment of demons. This is very common in Africa. Please someone tell me if they have noticed this too.

  25. @ All,

    Has anyone but me noticed that each and every one of these rabid jackals of Boko Haram and ISIS shakes those forefingers in the face of civilization when their terroristic rants get going? That gesture must surely be directly tied to the area of their brains that stops working when they start talking. I wonder if we tied that hand behind their backs it would make them shut up and sit down. I think it’s worth a try to get TB a Joshua also talking as nothing has happened.

    • @ All,

      Please see for video evidence of shaking finger TB Joshua that I addressed to Cecilia of post below of me.

      See also Boko Haram and ISIS shaking their finger same way, even Barak Obama does it. Closet Muslims ?

    • It’s funny the way people are convinced that TBJ himself had caused this building to collapse. I just can’t understand it. Let’s see: somebody came to visit me, while staying in my house, my house collapsed, I was not even present at this time but for some reason I did it. This is my fault. Wake up people. Buildings collapse all the time throughout history. Even during Jesus earthly ministry, He reported on a collapsed building. Check it in your Bible. Luke13:4 “Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” (‭Luke‬ ‭13‬:‭4-5‬ NIV) . Whether you believe TBJ is a man of God or not ,it is very unfair to capitalize on this. But also
      I remember David statement in 1 Chronicles 21:13” David said to Gad, “I am in deep distress. Let me fall into the hands of the Lord, for his mercy is very great; but do not let me fall into human hands.” (‭1 Chronicles‬ ‭21‬:‭13‬ NIV).

  26. The Namibian Sun reported that a prominent local pastor of Nigerian descent had lashed out at his fellow countryman TB Joshua’s intention to visit South Africa a month following a disaster at his church compound that left 86 South Africa died.
    Pastor Haruna Goroh of the Greater Love Ministries in Windhoek claimed that the envisaged visit was a ploy by the world-renowned preacher was to salvage his reputation after innocent lives were lost.

    http://en.starafrica.com/news/namibian-press-reports-on-exam-scandal-tb-joshua-and-poll-materials.html

  27. david caused the death of thousands of innocent pple thru a census he took, elijah caused deaths of hundreds of soldiers by calling fire from heaven,elisha called animals to devour youths who were mocking him ,abraham misled a king about his wifes identity and the list goes on of errors of prophets and man of God …..but they still remained man of God.the moral is even if there was negligence in building or what ever ,that does not make one not to be a prophet .period

    • @ Chinungu,

      Well where is that fire called from heaven now then of your false prophet ? Is it the bombing of ISIS by doing the same as ISIS does ?

      What defence do people have when you are bombed from above ? Then be heroes and fight them face to face not with overkill.

      Heroshima and Nagasaki comes to mind. Is God into bombing, daisy cutter bombs, beheading, murdering, killing ? Why do we vote for warmongers all the time who meddle in other peoples business so they can enrich their own countries and steal from the less fortunate and berate false prophets that love to tell about the doom and gloom and make their church large with followers “It came to pass” ?

      Why are there no politicians, prophets, NATO (make weapons into ploughshares, but don’t do this .) and fanatics all over the world ?

      Simply because they look at them for answer for their problems NOT TO JESUS CHRIST and His message of Peace. Why we endorse liars for our own consciousness to be seared with an hot iron.

      We are the ones that mess it up because we LOOK TO MEN for a solution in our problems. No wonder the roof of buildings are falling upon our heads because our ignorance.

  28. TB Joshua draws Namibian fire
    Pastor Haruna Goroh of the Greater Love Ministries in Windhoek claimed that the envisaged visit was a ploy by the world-renowned preacher was to salvage his reputation after innocent lives were lost.
    Well-known Nigerian pastor, Haruna Goroh, who runs a church in Namibia, has questioned the authenticity of prophet and faith healer TB Joshua, by saying that churches in the West African country “do not recognise him as a true man of God”.
    Joshua is embroiled in huge controversy following the death of over 100 people in the collapse of a church guesthouse in Nigeria recently.
    Goroh, from Greater Love Ministries – popularly known as Jesus Centre – questioned why Joshua is planning to visit South Africa following the disaster in which 86 South Africans were among the dead.

    http://www.sun.com.na/local-news/tb-joshua-draws-namibian-fire.71433

    http://en.starafrica.com/news/namibian-press-reports-on-exam-scandal-tb-joshua-and-poll-materials.html

  29. BREAKING NEWS: Cameroon- Government Bans TB Joshua, Calls Him Son of the Devil
    The Cameroonian government has blacklisted Prophet Temitope Balogun Joshua of the Synagogue Church of All Nations, saying that he is an agent of Satan hoodwinking unsuspecting members of the public with “diabolical miracles”.Cameroon Foreign Affairs minister Henri Eyebe Ayissi, in an official communiqué he issued last w…

    GREAT NEWS: 10 Batswana are said to have arrived back home safely from SCOAN in Nigeria yesterday.

  30. Sep 25, 2014
    Zimbabwe Moves To Ban TB Joshua + Family of Dead Victim Lament “He Lied To Us!”
    A source in the Zimbabwe Immigration Department has said although a written statement is yet to be issued publicly regarding the tragedy that killed several Zimbabweans in the tragic Synagogue building collapse – they intend to with Prophet TB Joshua very harshly. This new development is coming just a day after South African ANC Youths warned President Jacob Zuma not to issue TB Joshua anymore visas to their country.

    Read the sad story of Catherine Ndlovu below.
    http://www.mysugardaily.com/zimbabwe-moves-to-ban-tb-joshua-family-of-dead-victim-lament-he-lied-to-us/

    • @ Johnson,

      And it shows that he is a control freak and does everything to save face as well their followers. Step down TB Joshua relinquish your position,In Jesus Name ! Let my people go !

  31. @Johnson, how are hospitals supposed to care for the injured with unnecessary groups of curious people e milling all over the place? Let’s be reasonable brothers!!
    @Jesse you have a tendency of choosing only what you want to hear! Oh how i pray that God opens the door of your heart!
    I am sending lots of bear hugs to you and Just wonder!

    • @cecilia,
      Those are not curious onlookers but RELATIVES! Do you have to lose a close relation in unclear circumstances to know how agonizing grief under the circumstances is?

      Your heart is as callous as TB’s

    • @ Cecilia,

      And you have the tendency to choose you want to choose for. Your bear hugs will not change my observations which are studied with care. Tell your general to step down and let others fix this. He is out of his depth.

  32. If only South Africans can understand how blessed and honoured we would be to receive our
    major prophet TB Joshua! Poor Zimbabwens are throwing their only opportunity to be rid of poverty, what a shame, hey Africa, Africans it’s time to wake up!

    • @Cecilia,
      China has overtaken the US in GDP and they are not Christians. It is condescending and outright stupidity to imagine that TB’s greed and collapsing buildings are the panacea to Africa’s problems

    • @ Cecilia,

      Tell me which major or minor prophet has created an opportunity to allow 115 people to die + 4 in Ghana. Please tell me from history or biblical Scripture ?

  33. Pastor TB Joshua has vowed to hold monthly services in South Africa to pay tribute to the 84 South Africans who died in the Lagos megachurch tragedy.
    Notice. He is NOT coming for the injured. No compassion for them. He is coming for the dead, to save his reputation only.
    Hope he never puts his feet in SA again.

  34. Jessey and Just Wonder, all your postings on people’s, governments, agencies, etc comments and feelings are normal and expected in times like this but that does not in any way make feelings and assumptions true. Only the Omnipotent has the final say in this matter and no one else, so stop disturbing yourself pup-nosing into matters you are physically and spiritually impotent to solve. Leave it to the perfect judge to judge.

    Again let me open your eyes to a fact, read your bible well from Genesis to revelation, there is no single major true prophet of God without striking controversies, some are far worst than those of prophet TB Joshua. Some of them were responsible for the death of thousands of others while some cause years of afflictions for others just as Chinungu earlier posted. Jesus cause the brutal killings of thousands of his followers and early apostles and teachers after He has gone

    .And let me remind you, even if TB Joshua is found guilty of negligence as you said and he is sentence to death which is what will make you happy and your soul rest in peace, it is still not a new thing or change the divine fact that He is a genuine prophet of God. Every major prophet of God has a seal/mark of death written all over him and is never afraid of death. Go and check how Peter, Paul, James, John the baptist,, Jesus, etc, died, they were all brutally murdered for controversies on their divine assignment but only when God said their assignment was over. So is only if God says TB Joshua’s divine assignment is over that this problem will consume him but if God says his divine assignment is not over, he will surely overcome this trial of faith no matter the suffering he will go through as a result of this problem,

    No true major prophet is without controversies and their mode of operations are often misunderstood and doubted and often seen as using mysterious powers, they are not many of them at a time in each generation. Please never misplace major prophets with great pastors, preachers, teachers, evangelist, appostles etc, they are not the same. Major prophets perform unbelievable miracles that often looks suspicious Study your bible very well and and ask God to open your eye when you are not with a bias and poisoned heart.

    Like as I told you before. am not a member of SCOAN nor have I visited the place at any time or a fan, I took my time to pray and ask God who is TB Joshua and God told me that he is His Prophet and there is scarcely his kind in this time. This is just the beginning of his controversies, more are coming but in different form. Pastors and great preachers that talk evil about him are doing so not because God told them but is mere envy and jealousy. It takes true humility to acknowledge and appreciate what someone else does that you are not yet capable of doing.

    I will advice you to use your tongue and count your teeth, Life is a mystery and beyond what we feel and see. You may ask, if he is a true prophet of God, why did he not see in advance this coming as he claims to see others that are without. The answer is that this is why God is supreme.He only show us what He chooses, Why did he attribute the collapse to a mystery plane, the answer is that he is still a human, what he saw physically preceding the collapse was what he said, anyone else can say the same judging from current security threats in the country, so stop judging him with that. Why did he not wait as a prophet for GOD to tell him the actual cause of the collapse? the answer is, he is still human though a prophet. too many whys are there for you.

    The bible says in Prov 9:9 give counsel to the wise and he will yet become wiser,
    If you want to show love to the families of the victims and those injured, give them scriptural encouragement and stop adding to their Pains. This is the last time I talk on this issue. I am praying for the families of the victims and the injured, God will comfort, restore and strengthen them. Many are praying for you dear.

    • @OKWY,
      1. TB Joshua is no prophet, may be a professional video editor
      2. This is about property owner negligence and as such,nobody cares whether TB is a Levite

      Now, read slowly over and over this verse

      1 Peter 2:19-20(ESV)
      19 For this is a gracious thing, when, mindful of God, one endures sorrows while suffering unjustly. 20 For what credit is it if, when you sin and are beaten for it, you endure? But if when you do good and suffer for it you endure, this is a gracious thing in the sight of God

      It means suffering for sinning or wrongs is foolishness

    • OKWY, I salute your manner.
      Nevertheless, your arguments are highly debatable.
      First, prophets as in the Old Testament do not exist anymore. The Law and the Prophets are of old. Jesus came to fulfill the Law and set the boundaries with the last of the Prophets of old. The last and greatest of them all according to Jesus Himself, was John the Baptist. Mathew 11:7-15. Let us see what verse 13 says: “For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.” In that book of 1st Corinthians 12:4-11, this is what Apostle Paul speaks through the Holy Spirit:” There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working but the same God works all of them in all men. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit and He gives them to each one, just as He determines.”

      In the Old Testament we had Prophets, as spiritual leaders and instructors of Israel. Being Prophets was their very being, their IDENTITY. In the New Testament we have the PROPHETIC GIFT, as in prophetic words, a means to edify and prepare the body of Christ for service. The one who prophecies is NOT meant to act as a leader, the one who heals neither, nor the one who preaches knowledge or the one who possesses miraculous powers. All the above are NOT meant to be accounted as leaders, as mentors, as fathers. I will say it again: there is One Father, God Almighty, there is One Mentor/Teacher the Holy Spirit, there is One Leader, the Head of the Church JESUS CHRIST.
      Secondly, Jesus did NOT cause the brutal killings of thousands-which actually shall be millions by the end of time- of His followers. It was THEIR FAITH IN HIM that led them to such death. This is the true definition as I have stated previously of a martyr. Death out of negligence is not considered a martyrs death.
      Third, your train of thought is EXACTLY the train of thought I was under for over 8 years at SCOAN. It is called ” touch not my anointed” as in you should not ask questions, you should not have queries, you should not have an independent mind. Manipulatively using the Fear of God due to your own sin, we impose on you the fear of man. Whereas the Fear of God is to hate and abstain from all evil and NOT “do not judge”. Why don’t you turn to 1st Corinthians chapters 5 and 6:3 “Do you not know that we are to JUDGE angels? How much more the things of this life!” Judge not, is in the terms of false accusations, of hatred, of self righteousness. As born again Christians in fact we MUST judge, not according to carnal standards but those of the Spirit. It is called DISCERNMENT.
      Finally, you say that you have never been to SCOAN yet God showed you who TB Joshua is. I believe 100% in God’s Word. I ,for one, have been lied to, manipulated and deceived, others have been also abused, and this is called EXPERIENCE. Are we to take now your word over the matter because you were “shown” something or trust what we have first hand experienced? You have words, we have WOUNDS….please this underestimation towards anyone and anything else beyond TB Joshua is too much.
      There are two sides to a coin. Instead of continually justifying one’s actions or attributing them to forthcoming “promotion” why not sit down silently and think for just a minute, could it be that God is trying to say something other than “spiritually positive” concerning the matter? Maybe….something “spiritually negative” has offended Him? It seems to be out of the question for SCOAN followers, as if perfection has already been attained. What has happened here is not some kind of immediate, personal tragedy to TB Joshua so as to say he is being tried, neither did extremists enter his church and shoot down all the worshippers to speak of death due to their faith, but a catastrophe of HUMAN NEGLIGENCE AND ARROGANCE that has marked families and people involved for life. And I won’t even go into the way it has been handled by the church and its leadership.
      Controversies and Christianity will always walk hand in hand. But for you to see the Truth, it is time to let TB Joshua step down from the pedal stool you have placed him upon and time to rightfully place upon it the only One who deserves all honor, all bowing and all our worship, JESUS CHRIST.
      After all, as you stated so many times, TB Joshua is just human.
      Christ, the hope of glory within us, is the One Who is God and we do NOT question.

      • @ Jeremiah,

        “Death out of negligence is not considered a martyrs death.”

        Yeah, because it was not so they were thrown before lions, gladiators, communism, Nero, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, etc.

        They truly don’t know the difference between negligence, deliberate disregard and being persecuted for your conviction of your personal Faith. Who knows what certain Africans are capable of and willing to do to keep things in the dark about their scamming, 419, deception, theft and corruption. Should we not look of what kind of spirit is that who is behind that kind of behaviour. If we go by TB Joshua’s words, he told us and the world that ONE drop of the anointing water can change a country of his claim about the Blood of Jesus in it.

        Let’s look at Africa now then. What has changed ! It Is worse than ever and I know it will be way more worse and continue to be worse, because they cannot lay off acquiring money by deceit and lies. But to be honest, the whole world is guilty of that. Until this Satanic system is dismantled and totally destroyed we will not see any improvement and lives will be lost because of that. They do not know the way of Peace whatsoever. I believe it will take the return of Jesus to this earth to deal with this once and for all. But until then, brothers and sister keep resisting this kind of implementation with actions and prayers. Try to keep holding off to make us slaves of this system that creates more death than life in the near future.

  35. @Vooke, i observe some criss cross wiring happening when you read! Open your eyes and see opportunities when they come. I suggest you drink some gasoline maybe til help shake your mind to start functioning optimally!

    • @ Cecilia,

      “try to drink some gasoline ”

      Interesting from someone who want to hug me with bear hugs, then also telling me and Vooke to do so. Are we now cars, buses and ships ? Vooke. I wonder what your mileage is since you discovered Cecilias suggestion. You first, 😉

  36. TB Joshua taught that; “God must still mark your work”.
    Well God did mark his work. It’s got a BIG RED CROSS sitting on the building and that from the government.
    Tbj thought that he was above the countries laws and above God’s law.
    Well, what a wakeup call.
    But I am not so sure about that though.
    Listening to his followers, I still hear the sound of snoring…………………zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  37. ”But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” – Matthew 15:14.

  38. Group issues 7-day ultimatum to Governor Fashola to arrest, prosecute T.B Joshua

    The Vote for Service Initiative, a good governance and human rights advocacy group, has issued a seven-day ultimatum to Governor Babatunde Fashola to arrest and prosecute Temitope Joshua, popularly known as T.B Joshua, the founder of The Synagogue Church of All Nations.

    https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/168662-group-issues-7-day-ultimatum-to-governor-fashola-to-arrest-prosecute-t-b-joshua.html

  39. Nigeria: Patients discharged from hospital after building collapse

    Six people who were injured in a building collapse in Nigeria have been discharged from the Steve Biko Academic Hospital and have been cleared of any dangerous infections.
    “It was five but now its gone up to six that have been discharged,” the hospital’s deputy chief executive Dr Mathabo Mathebula told Sapa on the telephone. “None of the [25 admitted] patients had any dangerous infections, they are all fine.”

    http://mg.co.za/article/2014-09-25-nigeria-building-collapse-several-injured-south-africans-discharged

  40. Last I checked, none of the apostles in the bible died hiding in the synagogue, None! That building Colapsed, no matter how you tbj followers wanna sugar coat it, that building Colapsed!! Even if the government in Nigeria look the other way, God will always fight for his people, Always!!! God is seeing and he knows who he for him and against him. Time will tell.
    God is the father to the fatherless, mother to the motherless, a comforter to the lonely. May the souls departed rest in perfect peace, God will never abandon his people.

  41. Do you know one surprising thing about all of you that have made yourself righteous judge, if one investigates you very well, you must have been involved in serial killings of innocent babies through abortions and covered them up because you think no one saw you. You must have committed, aided and abetted series of cruel abortions but because those innocent babies can never come to this free internet to voice their minds, you may think you have escaped the judgement of the righteous judge, no, you have not. Their innocent blood is upon your head, crying against you and must surely seek revenge just as those of the collapse building will be upon TB Joshua if he is a fake prophet as you claimed.

    Those contraceptives and pills you used to stop those innocent babies from coming into existence during those your illicit sex are on God’s judgement sit waiting for you just as those of the collapse building will be waiting for TB Joshua if he is a fake prophet. But if he is not, God will definitely show him mercy even if the collapse was an error from him because no single man is without a grievous error.

    I am sure if you have conscience which I doubt, your heart must have started panting in guilt. God bless you if you repent and stop judging others. Am seriously praying for you, God is my witness.

    • @OKWY
      You are clinging to straws
      a building collapses and dozens perish.
      Owner claims UFO caused it. That is preposterous and highly insulting. You can as well join him in insulting those who can see through this nonsense. It don’t change nothing

      • Vooke, if attributing the collapse to a plane that hover 4 times on the building before collapse is the problem you have, then read my yesterday post on that, Vooke you and any human-being can do same under such circumstances. That is not enough to join issues . This is not the first time that a tragedy of greater magnitude has happened and is attributed to different causes. Some after an investigation has been concluded and a cause ascertained, many years later, a different cause for the tragedy is discovered.

        Addition of extra floors to the building without approval looks like it, but it is wrong to conclude until a forensic investigation is concluded and a cause is established. Engineering speaking buildings can be restructured/modified, the only problem is that approval was not sort from Govt as claimed. That again is human error and SCOAN can be charged for it but that does not make him a fake prophet. It is God that makes a man prophet and does not judge like us.

        Let us be patient and wait for forensic investigation to be concluded and see his arrogant or humble reaction. If he is found guilty and sentence to dearth by hanging or firing squad, it still does not make him a fake prophet.

        Don’t judge a man by evil or good that happened to him. It does not always follow. If you hate a man or you don’t believe in him because of what you feel or hear of him, it is childish to join issues when he has a problem.

    • @ Okwy,

      “you must have been involved in serial killings of innocent babies through abortions and covered them up because you think no one saw you.”

      Not true, no abortions ever occurred in my family or have been done by any members of the family. I guess you have run out of fodder so you try to find something to cling upon to make us look not worthy to judge righteously. If that is the case no one on earth has a right to judge then, not even judges, but God said that we have to appoint just judges to judge all kinds of matters. To bad that you don’t understand this. It does help to get out of your country once and a while and see if you can get away with, what you defend so vehemently. Do you have stocks, gilts and shares in SCOAN plc ?

    • @ Okwy,

      I see you love to handle the balance (scales) of Justice, errmm Deceit in favour who you want to defend. It means you are not suitable as a spokesman here. You are Biased for your own interest. Let go of that.

      Let the word of God about this be established in the renewing of your mind concerning:

      A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight.

      In Jesus Name, I pray. Obey the word of God.

    • Woooow. OKWY, you have jumped off the cliff of insanity. Now you are falsely accusing anyone who opposes tbj of being involved in abortion and murdering babies? How low will you go?

      This is why you guys will never persuade me. You speak with “authority”, and yet you make absolutely false witness. We know our own lives, and so we know your witness against us is a lie.

      This kind of lying, cursing, and false accusation is a hallmark of the “ministry” and followers of TBJ. If he is a minister and prophet of something, one thing we can be sure of is that he is not a minister and prophet of Jesus Christ.

  42. @OKWY

    “Vooke, if attributing the collapse to a plane that hover 4 times on the building before collapse is the problem”

    Do you know the difference between hovering and overflying? No way will a fixed-wings craft ‘hover’. The plane flew past SCOAN AND OTHER BUILDINGS IN ITS FLIGHT PATH. SCOAN is the only building that felt like collapsing. The explanation is the most boneheaded thing I have ever heard from any idiot

    “Vooke you and any human-being can do same under such circumstances”
    Not as long as I have a minimum of one brain cell. There is nothing ‘human’ here except shifting blame to UFO

    “This is not the first time that a tragedy of greater magnitude has happened and is attributed to different causes”
    Causes of collapse are not infinite, here is the list
    1.Explosion
    2.Earthquake
    3. Flooding
    4. Strong wind,typhoon,tornado,hurricane
    5. Collision with objects..could be another building falling on it or a plane like 911
    6. Structural weakness which in this age is 99% of the times due to negligence
    It does not take baptism of the Holy Spirit to rule out 1-5. It does not need an investigation either

    “Addition of extra floors to the building without approval looks like”
    You are almost there

    “the only problem is that approval was not sort from Govt as claimed”
    That is it!!! Do you know why authorities require approval before buildings are put up? It is precisely to avoid endangering the public. Since a MoG answers to Holy Spirit and nothing else, he went ahead and caused this mess. He reportedly claimed that the Holy Spirit is the architect. SO we should sue Holy Spirit? 😦

    “That again is human error and SCOAN can be charged for it but that does not make him a fake prophet”
    While I find it decidedly ‘funny’ that he could ‘prophesy’ over #MH17 thousands of miles away and AFTER the crash but he never saw this coming, it don’t make him false. What does is the body of evidence ranging from video editing to bold lies. Go through this site and revert.
    But while at it, think. ALL the injured had gone to SCOAN to seek miracles. Why can’t he go ahead and heal them off hospital beds?

    “Don’t judge a man by evil or good that happened to him”
    Trust me there is no ‘evil’ that has befallen TB, if you want to see evil, talk to the bereaved who are not sure if their loved ones died immediately the building came down or days after and in pain you can’t imagine

    ” If you hate a man or you don’t believe in him because of what you feel or hear of him, it is childish to join issues when he has a problem.”
    This blog does not ride on hearsay. AM sure you can read and comprehend English grammar. Go through this blog and revert. Why it hurts you so much is beyond me. I can guess it has to do with your affiliation with the MoG. To you the solar system revolves around him. Am sorry but he is a mere man, a charlatan and a cold heartless one at that

  43. @Vooke, if our major prophet T.BJ is,found guilty by authorities, is sued by the 115 families and pays, is hanged, what benefit will be derived from that? Ask your two brothers to help you answer i.e. just wonder and Jesse!

    • Cecilia, what Vooke will gain is that his only worst enemy and problem he has in this whole wide world will be no more, so vooke being the only perfect man this world needed will occupy till Jesus come. I know vooke is guilty of murdering innocent unborn children through abortions but his hardened hear will not allow him to solicit for mercy for this prophet of God who is undergoing the greatest trial of faith this period. How I wish Vooke and group could feel what this man of God will be going through now within him.

      • @OKWY
        “what Vooke will gain is that his only worst enemy and problem he has in this whole wide world will be no more”

        TB Joshua is not my ‘worst enemy’ nor my enemy. He is a charlatan and a professional video editor

        Ever read this verse?

        Proverbs 17:28 King James Version (KJV)
        28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

        You don’t have to post here for the sake which is the equivalent of speaking 🙂

    • There will be fewer unnecessary deaths caused by substandard buildings. It is a deterrence. No different from traffic fines. They hurt so you don’t break the rules. That’s how civilized world works; rule of law 🙂

    • @ Cecila,

      What makes you think that

      Matthew 5:38 You have heard that it was said, ‘AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.’ 39″But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.…

      Is not applicable concerning the Law, Jesus does not do away with the law here and Apostle Paul says, WE UPHOLD the law, because it is a terror for those that trespass.

      Do you expect God to say now, Well done thou faithful servant, you have taken care, but allowed 115 to die + 4 because of negligence ? In trying to be fast, fast, fast, more people to my church. Yay !

      What shoukd be done to such people, give the a beating and then let them go as the bible says. When are you applying the Scripture, give the matter to the LEAST esteemed in the church and let them speak. If you can’t bring matters among yourself to a righteous judgment.

      You cannot let one person get away because Law of the Land needs to be satisfied when evil is done. No one is exempt. The law must be satisfied that a penalty is applied for an act of negligence or deliberate disregard. The natural law of the land does not have a sacrifice of the Blood of Jesus. If that is so then go back to slaughter a goat and send it to the dessert. Yes ?

      • The only thing you don’t have a price to pay for is the salvation of your soul. It has been settled on the Cross of Calvary.
        For everything else you have unlawfully acted against your fellow man here on earth, you do.
        ALL OF US DO. “Then He said to them: Give to Caesar what is Caeser’s, and to God what is God’s.” Mathew 22:21

  44. Spare us the drama! 115 souls lost out of negligence and arrogance is enough. But if God allows justice to be done in any manner He desires, who are we to question? Concerning the beneficiaries, well…let’s see….. How about freedom for the thousands who are being deceived, abused and manipulated ?
    Are these enough for you?
    Although repentance is open to everyone until his/her dying day, the salvation of souls is by far no1 on God’s list of priorities.

    • @ Jeremiah,

      “Thousands…..”

      For a self made, self righteous man of God, it will never be enough, that is why he is continuing to minister, because he told his mind, I did not do anything wrong, I just signed the dotted line and got on with it all. Have you any idea what theomania does to certain people ? They think they are above anything and over anything, just like some people in court they say God told me to do it. Who questions God ? Who questions in insurance papers “an act of God” ? In where insurances hide themselves against this of strange nature and of alleged “powers” at work. They have for years brainwashed people who talk in that same way and they are now believing their own lies they infest people with who are online and are biased because they had somewhere gain from being connected with SCOAN. Example, they can work there and know they will be provided in whatever they need and pass it off that pagoda did that, but they don’t tell that the filthy lucre came from PEOPLE who are in that ministry or church. Telling stories is mostly laid away for those who are good in telling you tall stories and if you INCULCATE this long enough to the masses they will believe you unless you figured out from the bible that is was all a lie and it was close but NO CIGAR !

      People are very easily brainwashed by politicians, charismatic leaders, false prophets, false pastors and the like, whether or not fuelled by demonic speech or by high intelligence to turn a certain people to follow you with the lies they purport. People are very easy to be jolted when it comes to fear instilling. This is a primary weapon of politicians, false prophets and other charismatic men, women and even children. They follow those that have created their cults carefully with those that look upon the same page as them. People don’t like swimming upstream, they go by mass sheeple deception and it is the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life. Most people are too scared to say NO against brainwashing.

      • @ Jeremiah,

        The word “pagoda” actually was the word God, sorry auto spelling and hard to see in a small space of working.

  45. For one my friend cecilia, me and my family, high jacked by scoan, will be reunited again. The blessed ‘man of god’, has kept us away from one another for more than 2 years now.

  46. @Just Wonder, be reunited with your family, you don’t need another man’s permission to do so! To be submissive and humble doesn’t mean to allow yourself to bullied. No wonder you’re so angry, sorry, just correct the situation immediately, forgive and let go! Jehovah Rapha is faithful! Amen

  47. @Just wonder, be reunited with your family, you don’t need anyone’s,permission to do so. Being humble and submissive doesn’t involved allowing yourself to ‘be bullied! No wonder you’re so angry. Correct the situation immediately, forgive and let go! Jehovah Rapha us faithful!

  48. Families Of Dead South Africans In SCOAN Building Collapse To Sue TB Joshua

    Doro said, “It is not that the building collapsed, rather what was done after the collapse – we didn’t get any news from the church”.
    He said, “When I contacted them, they wouldn’t tell me anything. We saw reports that emergency workers were denied access initially, access that could have saved lives. The actions of the church after the incident are very telling,”
    http://www.aitonline.tv/post-families_of_dead_south_africans_in_scoan_building_collapse_to_sue_tb_joshua

    • People do not need more evidence to prove that T B Joshua has no healing or prophetic powers- why hasn’t he visited hospitals to heal the injured? One building has crumbled; Another will in the not too distant future- so if you are clever enough leave the SCOAN and its buildings and shun everything associated with TB Joshua. Cecilia, we love you very much , more than can be admitted.

  49. Hi Vooke:
    Yes, a very personal struggle for the release of my family and friends. On this blog are also more people having the same problem. TB Joshua is keeping our loved one in scoan for years at end, without valid passports. He also takes their passports from them when they are there and pays them very little money. They do not have enough money to buy a plane ticket to go home. He has separated many families, by high jacking their family members in mind and spirit. I would like to ask the governments of the countries to check out the foreign disciples’ visas! The disciple in scoan!

  50. Has anyone noticed there are actually two different ‘strange’ aircraft being alluded to?
    The one we see in the video from SCOAN suggests its a helicopter and the other image or picture from the witnesses shows it looks like a small aeroplane.

    The other intriguing aspect of this doctored video is the fact that for a “strange flying object” to fly so close to the building, one will expect atleast a couple of scoan visitors to raise their heads out of curiosity to look at the aircraft. Nothing of this sort is seen in the video…conclusion?this is a massively doctored video!

    • Dr TB Joshua, Honorary Doctor of Philosophy in Video Fabrication and Production. Thesis Title: The Marxist Psychology of deceptive Video Production in the Criminal age

    • Definitely not. It was really kind of obvious but I’m glad it’s getting out in the news. As always, TBJ is relying on lack of knowledge among his followers to bolster his claims. It’s not their fault they lack knowledge, but it sure does give charlatans a great way to fool them. 😦

      • @ M.,

        Is your husband still going there, or is he there ? Or has he come off his plans to travel and is he now convinced it is not as he thought it was ?

      • Thank you for asking Jesse. He is still begging them for an invitation, and begging for anointed water to be sent. He has only the same insane view as all the other SCOAN followers, that TBJ was the victim, and suffering like Jesus. :/

  51. Let me repeat this question.

    Since ALL the dead and the injured had gone to SCOAN to seek miracles and had PAID handsomely….transport,’prophet’s gift’,appointment and all that,is it aksin too much to demand that the MoG visit them in the hospital and ‘minister’ tot them from their beds?
    The injured had faith in God and in his ‘servant’, all necessary ingredients for miracles. Why not pray for their healing from both injuries and the other infirmities that afflicted them before?

    Another way of putting it is, those who are discharged from hospital,why would they go back to SCOAN for seeing they receive injuries and are cured of the same without TB input? What about the ‘lucky’ ones who escaped injury, why would they go back seeing their MoG failed to cure REAL ailments/injuries?

    • @ Vooke,

      It’s mind boggling, Vooke. If you see them writing on his Facebook page. Hitlerism is nothing compared to it. Fanatics. Religious fanatics.

      This is what inculcation does to you. Please let anyone do a study on inculcation.

      It is clear that their god (Emmanuel, god with us) is incapable to stop TB Joshua Watch, nor any of us individuals.

      What I do notice in all the fanatics who follow him, say things like Led love lead and at the same time want all anti TB Joshua detractors to be destroyed, killed, punished, go to hell, are full of demons, and whatever.

      It shows exactly of what spirit they are, they parrot TB Joshua but are out in droves to rain curses on us. And what did we all do ? We prayed, we wrote our experiences and yet we are all liars and what is in front of them is the belief that his anointing will increase 7 fold. So let’s take this hypothetically. If it does, what must be happening for him to take over the world ? 7 x 115 dead + 7 x 4 dead. Which is 833. So we have arrived at the Jim Jones number of dead people like that, but where is Jim Jones now ?

      Should we allow more sacrifices like that from of Christian stand point of view ! Is this where our nations are built upon, in loss of life !

      Did Jesus not DIE for all already so we have life, life more abundantly ? Why allow more dead from religious bigots that don’t care how much they sacrifice and make people worse than Nazi’s in the form of their convictions. What did the world learn here ? Apparently not much.

  52. T.B. Joshua’s Self-Proclaimed Protege Allegedly Kills Man In Abuja, Covers Up Death
    According to the wife of the deceased, the pastor contracted a man who administered a special kind of concoction to late Mr. Ezenagu. This sick man who needed a doctor or hospital didn’t get that when he needed it, but when he died, they deposited his body at a mortuary and ordered that the body be immediately embalmed, without the consent of anyone from the dead man’s family, not even his wife. Why so fast?
    http://saharareporters.com/2014/09/26/tb-joshuas-self-proclaimed-protege-allegedly-kills-man-abuja-covers-death

  53. MALAWIANS BASH CELEBRITY PASTOR TB JOSHUA OVER TRAGEDY AND HEALING CLAIMS

    BLANTYRE(Maravipost)—Scores of Malawians who have spoken to Maravipost, have no kind words for Nigerian celebrity ‘Man of God’ TB Joshua over his miracle and prophesy claims following the collapse of his guest house that led to 115 worshipers dying, including 84 South Africans on September 12.

    http://www.maravipost.com/201409267142/Society/malawians-bash-celebrity-pastor-tb-joshua-over-tragedy-and-healing-claims.html

    • All that does is confirm that the lower floors were not designed to hold several other floors. The bottom pillars blow out, causing a big blast of dust, but there’s no way there’s an explosion. The SCOAN story isn’t even consistent, sometimes it’s implying an explosion, other times they’re claiming chemicals were used to weaken it.

      • @ TBJW,

        Why wait two weeks to bring out that footage, but they were so quick with the first one. There is a pattern of calculated deploying things consecutively to keep the followers brainwashed and deceived. I sure believe that they need to press on now, instead of waiting another seven days. The more time the more they come with concoctions and lies.

        He is also the distraction of the world in looking at the Ukraine crisis about Putin as well ISIS this has been a steady build up of events. He is a false prophet and perhaps even used by these secret people of the Skull and Bones (who actually rule this earth, because of huge financial positions) which use the same sign as the Nazis did and had this sign upon their hat gear. The leaders of Gog and Magog go to war again and destroy everything to enslave us more with their evil lies. Let’s remember TB Joshua has not offered any solution to anything he allegedly has prophesied. Nor does he now. If he was truly the spokes man of God he could, but he is incapable. People who sow death are not out of God whatsoever.

        And Apple Tim Cook is a liar because he claims that iPad, iPhone does not have back doors in their gadgets.

        It is proven that they do have and they also know where you operate from.

        http://www.techtimes.com/articles/10970/20140723/ios-backdoor-entry-is-real-says-jonathan-zdziarski-not-for-nsa-says-apple.htm

        All these people they are liars. And all those celebrities who openly display demonic evils, TB Joshua is incapable to bring them down, but how can you if you are working on his part to deceive the entire world with the technology those companies do.

        This is more intrinsically involved than most people see, but a real fact and danger that is unfolding right in front of us. We need Jesus to destroy these plans they do.

      • @ All,

        Let’s use our gadgets to write about these implementations and make more people aware. As the the TB cult followers so are Apple fanatic followers. It is the same spirit that deceives us and wants to destroy us from the inside out.

        These spiritual lay lines as they are called are more and more stretched out over us and infiltrate everything that want to stand up against them to make them more powerful. Do not forget that TIm Cook recently has come out to openly support gay parades, what does that mean ?

        He is another false prophet and lies while it is proven he is. This problem is far more systemic than only linked to TB Joshua and Wisemen and his followers.

  54. Inside TB Joshua’s broken temple

    When we arrived at Joshua’s compound, the TV team and I were in effect incarcerated. For two weeks, we were forbidden to leave the grounds.

    As Joshua bent over him and implored the demon to be gone from his body, Kruger felt the tumour leaving him. He was cured, Joshua declared, handing him oil to rub on his head.

    The church took away the young man’s morphine and pain pills.

    Ruben Kruger died in 2010 just before his 40th birthday.

    And Wium Basson?
    Joshua never prayed for him. He said God had not sent him a message to do so.
    The young man left the church broken, disillusioned and at death’s door. He died a few days after returning to South Africa.

    http://www.citypress.co.za/news/inside-tb-joshuas-broken-temple/

  55. TB Joshua is just an underground Jesuit priest in the dress of Christianity.
    His connection to them is via late Dr DGS Dinakaran and his son Paul to the Jesuit orders of Rome.

  56. These are the end times,anything can happen anytime and anywhere,planes go missing,some crash,children in Nigeria were kidnaped,y do you hate TB Joshua this much?Did he call anyone to go to SCOAN?TB Joshua is the prophet of end times.Saul in the book of acts used to persecute the Christians before he was called by Jesus.T B Joshua saves lives he is the prophet of God.i pray that people’s spiritual eyes be opened.Anyway even Jesus was persecuted when he was on earth.I pray that God strengthens and anoints Him even more.No weapon fashioned agains him shall prosper,no matter how it’s formed,I Love You Prophet

  57. May God comfort all who are affected by this incidence. People of God understand what this incidence mean and Great man of God. TB Joshua has already learned how situation shall be handled. Foolish words will be paid back and good to keep yourself from speaking such words which doesn’t respect God and the people…

  58. may God forgive you all who lies against my prophet ,i beg God to forgive you bcos you dont know the consequences of what you say with your tongue ,most of or problems are tongue problem and saying what u feel to say ,if TBJ is not a man of God till now none of you prayed to delivered him from the evil you claims or cast the evil from him meaning ur God is powerless you worship God you do not know,we pray for both our love ones and enemy i pray for you guys that God of tbj the most high God whom is son is jesus Christ and TBJ a humble servant to forgive u of ur blasphemy as his anointed one ,read this Psalm105:15, MY PROPHET I AM PRAYING FOR U[PETER ETIM] NOTHING CAN SEPARATE US FROM THE LOVE OF YOUR GOD NOT EVEN FAITHLESS PEOPLE CRITICISM YOU ARE A MAN OF GOD CONFIRM

  59. As you comprehend profound loss, let yourself cry knowing each tear is a note of love rising to the heavens,God is with us

  60. In Zimbabwe each stage of an urban legal building is inspected,If that is the case in Nigeria,then the Prophet is absolved of any guilt. TBJ is not a builder. better ask the builder/ archtech and the responsible inspectors . all in all I believe it was God’s will.That is why even the best doctors, our Lord Jesus, prophet Elijah etc also died.How one shall meet his or her end is known by God.

    Stop demonising the man of God. May souls of the victims rest in peace.God Almighty see their families and friends through this terrible grief in Jesus’ name amen and amen.

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