Ex-disciple Gareth reflects on the SCOAN tragedy

Workers and visitors were housed in this unfinished building before it collapsed.

Workers and visitors were housed in this unfinished building before it collapsed.

I am sickened by the horrific loss of life at SCOAN. My heart bleeds for the injured and those who have lost loved ones. The responsibility for these deaths is with TB Joshua – he sees himself above the law and this tragedy is an awful culmination of his meglomania.

Nigeria, let justice be done. Bangladesh (hardly the bastion of transparency) handled the case of the Rena Plaza building collapse much better – a case was filed against the owners THE NEXT DAY. Why haven’t cases been filed against TB Joshua and SCOAN? Why are journalists and politicians even discussing the “unknown aircraft”?

Lets look at some of the bizarre events following the tragedy:

NEMA officials were prevented from accessing the site for 3 days.
This is criminal in itself. Why would it happen? TB Joshua see’s himself above the law and wanted to control the story. He was far more concerned about his appearance than the potential to save lives. Press and cameramen were also driven away for the same reason. Why on earth would you fight away the press and rescue officials unless you had something to hide?

TB Joshua denied the above with a cryptic statement. But who’s word do we take? Several independent witnesses or TB Joshua? My experience with TB Joshua has taught me to never take him at his word – always look at the actions. There is a huge difference between what he says and what he (or his followers) do. For example: “The church members however remained hostile to journalists despite the apology by Mr. Joshua“.

“A building, not the church auditorium as was reported, “The few people that were there are being rescued…”
This first “official” statement is wrong on so many levels. They knew there were many people in the building including large South African groups. They knew those people were missing. They knew because all of those visitors had paid to stay at the church. This statement is TB Joshua trying desperately to control the story – again with absolutely no regard to the victims or their families. He was more concerned that people thought his church auditorium had collapsed. The statement doesn’t even make sense – this is proof positive that it was directly from TB Joshua. If you’ve ever heard him speak, you know that he speaks in cryptic half sentences.

The Sunday Church Service continued as normal
I just don’t understand this. How can TB Joshua, all dolled up with make-up have a service as if nothing had happened. While people were still trapped just metres away! The service should have been cancelled to ensure the emergency services could operate effectively. But TB Joshua wanted to try and control the story. Sunday was his chance to try and blame Boko Haram and UFOs.

I could go on, but I’m sick. Lives are lost and this man is playing the media.
Please shout for justice to be done.

60 thoughts on “Ex-disciple Gareth reflects on the SCOAN tragedy

  1. Thank you. This is an excellent explanation of how tbj operates. He is a super 419 trickster. Straight out of the pit of hell. I pray that our Lord Jesus will open all the disciples’ eyes to this brain washing and that they will come out of that cult. Rev 18:4.

  2. Meet TB Joshua the Hypocrite:
    A hypocrite preaches one thing, and does another.
    The word hypocrite is rooted in the Greek word hypokrites, which means “stage actor, pretender and a dissembler.” So think of a hypocrite as a person who pretends to be a certain way, but really acts and believes the total opposite.

  3. I can only imagine what kind of disciple you were. I mean even if TB Joshua is your enemy whatever happened to praying for your enemies? I don’t see the love of Christ in this article. All I can see is your hatred for someone. Even all the tags are all fueled by hatred. I will pray for you.

  4. First of all your thoughts your a man of no faith and trust in God and you don’t regard facts,David was in sorrow at the time of his first son with bethsheba which came out of adultery and murder and he pleaded with God to save his son but to no avail afterwards hearin the news of his son’s death he bathed himself,praised and worship God,when the shunamite woman his son died and she still said it is well to Elisha she never pronounced death they r so many stories like that in the bible,Tb joshua is a man of Faith he still believed God though in tragedy as it was with job he still showed faith by actin as normal in terms of the sunday service,What makes think is lyin on aircraft coz the investigation r still goin thru,should we be happy and praise God when thingz r well only,Romanz 28 vs 8

  5. I think Nigerian government are coward. They are afraid if they prosecute Tb Joshua, something will happen to them…. Lmao. Nigeria government are the most cowards I have ever heard of in this world. Look at what happened and they are sitting idle without taking proper procedure. You have sentenced 12 soldiers to death this month because of mutiny even though the assault wasn’t successful but you are afraid to prosecute someone killed 115 people and injured others. Nigerian government are fools and cowards. Shame onto you. Which part of your law says a man of God shall not be arrested and prosecuted when he break the law. Do you have something like that in your constitution? If No, then stop being cowards and do the right thing. How I wish an active duty and popular politician could be among those killed, likewise they will act fast and do the right(arrest and prosecute) It’s time to think and do the right Nigerian government.

    • Goodluck Jonathan, the Nigerian president, is under delusion. He has been thoroughly deceived by the wolf and false prophet, TBJ, so much that he can’t even see that TBJ is a liar and a false prophet. If this disaster does
      not wake him up, perhaps a greater disaster would.

  6. Mat_5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
    Luk_6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

  7. Detectives to probe guest house collapse-
    Lagos – The Nigerian police have formed a team of detectives to probe the circumstances behind the collapse of a six-storey guest house within the premises of the Synagogue Church Of All Nations (Scoan) at Ikotun, a suburb of Lagos.
    The team, to be headed by an Assistant Commissioner of Police – not yet named – will INTERROGATE “prophet” TB Joshua on …
    …The team will also INTERROGATE Joshua on the structural condition of the building before it was raised from a two-storey to six-storey structure….

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/detectives-to-probe-guest-house-collapse-1.1756852

  8. Nigeria is a bad place to die

    Johannesburg – “You don’t want to die in Nigeria.” Another member of the international press, who had been based in Lagos for several years, was giving me her thoughts on the collapse of the Synagogue Church of Nations, or Scoan, hostel building.
    “Hell, you don’t even want to get sick in Nigeria. You are just another number. You will be told ‘people die all the time in Nigeria, what makes you so special?’”

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/nigeria-is-a-bad-place-to-die-1.1756849

    • That is interesting–I’ve seen it expressed by many who are defending SCOAN.

      I would not be surprised if that callousness is a result of many years of poverty and pain. But that doesn’t make it OK. It’s true that Christians can look forward to eternal life and that we do not need to look to death with dread. But so much of Jesus’ message was about caring for others, considering others above ourselves, alleviating suffering, and helping the poor, weak, and sick. When Lazarus died, Jesus recognized it as a painful event for the family, he didn’t blow them off with “Oh well, he’s in heaven now, don’t worry about it.”

  9. Lagos State Building Control Agency takes over control of TB Joshua’s church premises

    LAGOS State building officials have taken control of the Synagogue Church of All Nations (Scoan) premises as part of the ongoing investigation into why one of its buildings collapsed recently killing about 115 people.

    http://www.nigerianwatch.com/news

  10. Nigerian tragedy has impacted on SA’s psyche

    About 25 people suffered life-changing injuries and will require extensive rehabilitation. The government, however, stands ready to assist them in any way possible as they learn to adjust to their new circumstances and way of life. This tragedy has impacted on the very psyche of our nation and we all will take time to heal. I will never forget the tangible feeling of emotion welling within me as I awaited the return of our injured countrymen and women.

    http://www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/nigerian-tragedy-has-impacted-on-sa-s-psyche-1.1756871

  11. Oh yeah.u’ve said it all Gareth.God bless u.the “strange aircraft”had nothing to do with this.even my 1year old son can say it.maybe is because his wife and kids were not in that building.him and his contractors must be held accountable.lives are lost and all he cares about is his”church”.my sympathy is with the families who lost their loved ones and those who survived,i say”GOD is with you”.

  12. This guy is fucking pathological and reallyquite unbelievable. Have you seen their condolences video? Good Morning???!!! And then the guy, happy as a clam, can call them ‘martyrs of faith’ so easily. Beyond help.

    Absolutely no acknwoledgement of the hurt.

    • IF YOU WERE IN POSITION DO YOU THINK WHAT YOU WILL SAY THE WHOLE
      WORLD WILL AGREE WITH YOU BESIDES STOP INSULTING GROW UP

  13. “But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’ 21 And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’— 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him” – Deuteronomy 18:20-22.

    Take note: How many of tbj’s “prophecies”, on this blog alone, have NOT come out!

  14. On September 24, it was reported that Rabboni Centre Ministries pastor Lesego Daniel told his Ga-Rankuwa congregation to drink petrol and said it tasted “sweet”.
    About 3:19:

    • Those poor, deluded people. I saw that.

      No juice. Those people were guzzling petrol and trying so hard to believe it was juice. nonsense. You can drink a limited amount of that stuff without getting horribly sick. But eventually, he too will have a disaster. He’s brazen, to continue after being exposed as having his congregation eating grass like cows. :/

  15. Sadistic as the blood money might sound, what would one say to the fact that the preacher called his dead followers, martyrs. In reality, the anger of the families of the deceased is not more, about the martyr nomenclature, but for the mere fact that the choice of being a martyr or not is itself undemocratic.
    “Did the preacher ask my sister whether she wanted to be a martyr or not? Perhaps, if the pastor had informed them earlier that they would be martyred some of them might have not chosen that path. In any case, why cannot the pastor choose the martyr honour himself – assuming that journey would lead to a greater height”? One Nkandu from Zambia, who lost his father in the SCOAN disaster, questioned.
    http://www.katakata.org/prophet-t-b-joshua-to-sue-the-father-or-son/

  16. Keeping It Real With Adeola – Eps 138 (TB Joshua & The Collapsed Building)

    And 9.5 Million was smuggled into South Africa by a private jet from a Nigerian pastor?

    Start and 9:35

  17. Dr. Damages Show Episode 154: Bad Pastors, Bad Precedence: Our Pastors Have Gone Mad

    About the money that came into SA from Nigeria:

    Time: 13:38


    And
    Time: 0:00, 7:52, 9:00

  18. Dr. Damages Show 155: Why Prophet T.B. Joshua Lost the Power to Raise the Dead

    Time: 14:46

    The money is now frozen by SA government.


    Time: 0:00, 11:30, 20:22

  19. I have just read the message given by TB Joshua yesterday, on fb.
    Suddenly it seems to be all about the victims and relations. Is it?
    NO….this is an outright, grave warning towards his followers, lest they dare to have doubts concerning the matter and the ministry at large. DON’ DISTURB MY SPIRIT OR ELSE YOU WILL JOIN THEM.
    Join the deceased. Join the ones whom his God is going to get back to.
    THE POWER OF INTIMIDATION, MANIPULATION AND FEAR INSTALLMENT IN ALL ITS GLORY.
    Arrogantly imposing unaccountability through the means of spiritual threat. Through the fear of man.
    SO BE IT.
    I CHOOSE THE FEAR OF THE LORD.
    FOR IN CHRIST WE WERE NOT GIVEN A SPIRIT OF FEAR AND INTIMIDATION BUT THAT OF POWER AND A SOUND MIND.

  20. Jeremiah,
    We heard it too. We were just laughed yesterday at his ramblings…. “DON’T DISTURB MY SPIRIT OR ELSE YOU WILL JOIN THEM”….
    Oh, what a tread.
    The marta…yers of Christ all went to heaven, I suppose? So if you disturb tbj’s spirit, all will also go to heaven. Following the marta…yers?!?!
    So let’s warn everyone, because we will follow the “marta…yers to heaven. Hallelujah.
    It is laughable, really.

  21. Prophet TB Joshua has been attacked since the beginning of his ministry. But people how he started. People can say whatever they wan to say but that cannot change the fact that though people are talking against him.

    And if its God that is using him, he will be used even more than we are seeing him. I mean why all this persecution like as if he bombed he building. He is not intimidating anyone but saying hat he said from the biblical point o view.

    The man is doing everything to assist the families o the lot ones. The investigation is not yet over why can we wait for it to b completed and stop accusing the man o God with a lot o lies. H prayed for the deliverance of he generals of the kingdom of darkness

    Remember sathan cannot cast out satan and that settles the matter that TB Joshua is he man of God. Jesus said if you son believe what I tell you believe the works. What makes doubt him.

  22. Gareth may God forgive you as you are maricius TB Joshua has got nothing to do with what you are saying.

  23. to be honest, I think he is doomed. There are those unspoken verses in Hebrews no one wants to preach about.

    It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance.

    Its not possible.

    To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned.

    If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.

    There is no more sacrifice for deliberately walking like this.

    Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”

    It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

  24. The Commissioner of Town planning and Urban Development in Lagos says, “The manner of collapse looks like a controlled collapse”.
    Lagos Will Investigate Video Clip Of Unapproved Synagogue Building – Commissioner Pt 1

  25. Toyin_AyindeThe Lagos State Commissioner for Town Planning and Urban Development,
    Reading the Law on taking over the building of scoan:
    From 7:24

  26. @ All,

    Ah, jaaaa, the intimidation arrogance.

    Now we can see where all that cursing is originally is coming from. No wonder followers do the same.

    Even some are so desperate they have to jump from the balconies. Anybody went to a church were they jump from the balconies ? Everything is under control. Uhuh !

  27. @ All,

    Soooo true….

    Which spirit is he talking about ? Is he going to conjure up his fuzz balls ?

    He needs deliverance from his murderous spirit. Something is short circuiting upstairs. Cuckoo !

  28. Nigeria: Lagos Coroner Starts Inquest Into TB Joshua Building Deaths

    Lagos — THE Lagos State Government has instituted a Coroner’s Inquest to ascertain the cause of death of worshipers after a building collapsed in a church run by prominent pastor, TB Joshua.
    State Attorney General and Commissioner for Justice, Ade Ipaye, under section 15 of the Lagos State Coroner Law, began the inquest.

    http://allafrica.com/stories/201409291842.html

  29. Tb joshua is encourages people to worship him as an idol. He has replaced God for Scoan adherents. “Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the Lord. That person will be like a bush in the wastelands, they will not see prosperity when it comes. They will dwell in the parched places of the desert, in a salt land where no one lives”

  30. Man allegedly tries to commit suicide inside Synagogue Church to prove T.B Joshua is not fake.

    The spokesman of Emmanuel TV, the media outfit of the Synagogue Church of all Nations, Ken Emeakayi, claims a young man attempted to commit suicide during service yesterday, Sunday September 28th.
    While speaking on Channels TV’s Sunrise Daily today, Emeakayi disclosed that the man tried to jump down from the gallery of the church which would have immediately killed him upon landing.
    According to him, the young man said he wanted to show that he believed prophet T.B Joshua.

    http://dailypost.ng/2014/09/29/man-allegedly-tries-commit-suicide-inside-synagogue-church-prove-t-b-joshua-fake/

  31. This is so grievous……….they are never coming back! It only just hit me….One could go CRAZY with grief! It’s unimaginable the lack of empathy displayed. It is sickening that they even dare to provide an account for the thing ( in that condolence video). Are they unable simply to say sorry and shut up instead of wounding further?????

    I am so sorry for all the loved ones

  32. One needs to be either abnormaly daft or at best uninformed, both God given mental qualities, hence forgivable, in order to require more satisfactory proof that TBJ is indeed man of God. Man of God is trivialy distinct from God himself. Man of God, including Jesus, never claimed omniscience. God Himself revealed the impending disaster to TBJ and according to His own designs limited TBJ’s prophecy to his congregation on the approaching disaster. The Almighty does as He choses and TBJ conceded in his prayer “Let yo will be done” , after revelation to him of the impending disaster. Over-reliance on our grey matter in trying fully unravel or access God’s nature is indeed ambitious project, preserve of the psuedo-intellectuals only. It is probably wise for mortal man to focus on what God was saying thru the disaster. Are people flocking to TBJ for God’s initial purpose, the search for the Kingdom of God or its otherwise? How many more of God’s messengers need come and go unnoticed? Shame, shame, shame indeed on yu if yu would rather remain spiritualy blind, deliberately. Yo Kingdom has always been there. DARKNESS.

  33. Where one looks for evangelical ministry exuding the greatest the greatest demonstrations of God’s power. It is TBJ’s SCOAN. Even in terms of organisational grandeur. Yu inevitably need genuine Man of God as captain of the bigiest giant of spiritual project. With respect our departed SCOAN congregants, human nature demands their lives and the full recovery of the injured & maimed, without granting any space at all to God’s own free designs. Human accepts as fair or acceptable Gods design that one is born cripple and lives a whole life time as cripple. But does not accept God’s design creating a cripple from traffic accident. Mankind doubts there is longer life after death meriting of mankind’s greater concern about than our earthly ephemeral existence. Aircraft crash , earthquake taking many a people’s lives, are all God made disasters for a purpose. Same for Scoan disaster.

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