Experts dismiss SCOAN’s “controlled explosion” theory

SCOAN have been putting out a lot of propaganda recently trying to convince people that the collapse of the building was a controlled explosion executed by terrorists. Not surprisingly, an expert from Lagos State Fire Service serving as a witness in the official inquest into the disaster has rubbished this theory.

“We rescued 131 alive but they had various degrees of injuries. We also brought out more than 80 dead victims. But all their bodies were intact, none of the bodies were shattered from any explosion” (source)

The same article reports that SCOAN lawyers are doing everything they can to avoid TB Joshua from appearing in court. The coroner disagrees:

“The prophet has been speaking to the press and we have been reading him,” he said.  “Let him come and say what he has been telling the press to the court.”

Responding to further attempts by Mr. Jude (SCOAN lawyer), the coroner retorted: “Let him come and tell the court what he knows, or is he above the court?”

It is being reported that TB Joshua has been summoned to court in two weeks time (before November 5th).

99 thoughts on “Experts dismiss SCOAN’s “controlled explosion” theory

  1. Collapsed Building: Coroner insists T.B Joshua must personally testify in court

    The Coroner handling the inquest into the cause of the building collapse at the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN), Oyetade Komolafe, has insisted that the founder of the church, Temitope Joshua, must appear before the court to testify in person.

    https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/170038-collapsed-building-coroner-insists-t-b-joshua-must-personally-testify-in-court.html

      • Outside his Synagogue of Satan, TBJ is putty! He is helpless in any environment he can’t manipulate. The coroner would ask pertinent questions and we shall see the false prophet running for cover!

      • Those of you going after prophet TBJ use uncultured language like liar and all sort of uncivilised and biased conclusions on issues you have no adequate knowledge of. Religious issue cannot be treated same way as you do other issues of Life Everybody in life has freedom to believe anything as far as religion is concerned. By the way why special interest on TBJ ministry. The people going there are not under compulsion and like other associations the exit door is not closed against those who are there and feel their aim is not achieveed. The resources deployed in going after proving TBJ a liar if deployed to follow those who cause war and sufferings in nations of the world,this would have received strong commendation.

  2. @TB JOSHUA WATCH, FOOL, WATCH AND SEE, FOR WE HAVE OVERCOMED, YOU ENEMIES OR PROGRESS, SCOAN IS THE AREANA OF LIBERTY# TB JOSHUA IS A PURE MAN OF GOD# LIKE IT OR NOT, NA YOU GO TIRE. . YOU ARE TOO SMALL FOR GOD. MY GOD HAS WON THIS BATTLE FOR US, EVEN BEFORE THIS HAPPENED, SO KNOW YE THAT OUR GOD IS WITH US, EMMANUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Evan, Evan,
      Remember what Jesus said:
      22″But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell”….. – Mathew 5:22.

  3. Tbjw,
    …..”If this goes ahead it will be the first time TB Joshua will have ever publicly spoken in an environment that he doesn’t control. That’s pretty massive”….
    What you are saying, is exactly true. What a humiliation to this big man of god, that must not be touched or even questioned or you will die. Let along being interrogated in court. Ha, ha…..
    This Sabbath morning I was pondering this whole thing again and realized that I do not nearly grasp the magnitude of what the Lord is busy doing!!!
    It came to me: “For the Lord Jesus to set those used and abused slaves of TB Joshua free, it is in the magnitude of the story of Moses and Farao.
    It is Moses versus Farao and Jesus versus TB Joshua.
    When the Lord started to free the Israelites from Egypt and Farao, it was massive. TB Joshua used his disciple as slaves in bondage, without rest, to build himself an empire, just like Farao. When God finally started to lead Farao’s slaves and God’s people out under Moses, Farao performed like mad. He repented every time, but then hardened his heart again and pursued the Israelites – God’s people. It is the same with TB Joshua. He will repent every time after one of God’s curses fell on him, but he will harden his heart again and again to pursue the people of God again and again. He kept on until he eventually died in the Red Sea and the children of God moved on to the Promised Land, where there were green pastures and waters of rest, waiting for them.
    We can just sit back and watch how our Lord Jesus will free his captured people ( a group deliverance for his disciples) out of scoan. It will not be a once off thing, but a proses like with the Israelites and Moses. Tbj has already sent most of the foreign disciples away. But watch how he will pursue his little flock of slaves again. Watch how another plague will hit him again.
    We will witness a modern day miraculous rescue plan from God for a group of his people out of the house of slavery.
    Let us keep on watching.
    Thank you Lord Jesus.

    • Just Wonder, I sincerely hope your long sought for relatives are amongst the disciples tbj has released from his dungeon! that guy is cleverer than I estimated. I give both him and his legal team huge credit for making it as difficult for the authorities as possible.

      • They are out of Nigeria and put in a safe house, behind locked doors in their home country. So no one can trace their illegal stays in scoan without legal visas for years. With a fight I made contact with some others in that house. They are told a totally different story of why they were send to their home country. This master trickster will put ears on his fellow 419 Nigerian tricksters. He can maneuver. Clever I tell you. He will take the disciples back again, as soon as the dust settles down. They are so brain washed and put under a spirit of fear, they will not make contact with us or leave. But there is Jesus versus this clever Nigerian. Lets watch and see. I cannot wait to see what the Lord will allow to happen again.

  4. (1) If the rescued or retrieved were in the lower floors eating … and if the key explosives were attached to pillars elsewhere … would the bodies be expected to be found shattered?
    (2) There are fewer “experts” in Lagos than you think … who can comment meaningfully on the cause of the building collapse. Experts that conclude on the cause of the collapse prior to a full investigation are suspect.
    (3) Let’s be wiser christians and refrain from a conclusion prior to a full investigation done by true experts.
    (4) The higher powers in government should tell us all they know about the mysterious aircraft.

    Hallelujah always.

  5. mr. temitope balogun joshua and his allies are just playing GOD. But the hour is at hand for all of them.

  6. My friend,

    I was sitting at this particular Coroner Court hearing and heard by myself the cross examination and testimony of the Fire department man who is a well qualified graduate of Lagos State Polytechnic with active service of 34 years experience of fighting all manner of fire & explosions as a fully trained fire fighter who can easily detect when a bomb or explosive device causes a fire out break in a collapsed building or not…

    In the case of the collapsed synagogue building he found no single trace of fire or flames or smoke for that matter on the first day of collapse only three days later…

    Fire & smoke must always be found whenever a bomb explodes let alone a series of bombs as it is in the case of controlled demolition…

    The aftermath of every single Boko Haram bombing is dismembered bodies, blood, fire and smoke as every average Nigerian knows today…surely if you are a Lagosian or Nigerian where there are “fewer experts” like you want us to believe then you should know this fundamental stuff about bomb explosions too…

    Except of course you are one the “deceived synagogians” who don’t reason well when it comes to issues about your idol, master, lord & god of a false prophet who has clearly been ordered by a “mere” human magistrate to report himself to court or face being arrested for contempt of court…

    My Bible tells me that true men of God raised the dead of people that came to them or fellowshipped with them like Elijah raised the widow’s dead son he stayed with; and Elisha raised the Shunamite woman’s dead son he also stayed with; and Paul raised the dead Eutycus that fell from an upstairs window while he was preaching; even Jesus Christ raised his dead friend Lazarus whom He sometimes stayed with…

    But your prophet of death keeps showing us the people staying with him that he is apparently “healing” in their hundreds on Satellite TV; while we keep seeing the people staying with him that he is apparently “killing” in their hundreds on Real-life TV…

    Oh how so contrary to the records of the men of God in the Bible…

    I Rest My Case…

    • Dear friend,

      I have not met the Prophet Joshua or been to the SCOAN. I simply examine the facts as are available. I have no personal “axe to grind” ….. as many commentators.

      That graduate of Lagos Polytechnic may not be aware of current explosive options available. A wise person like you should know that. Moreover no case is determined based on opinion of one “expert” witness, who is void of technological/ chemical data-analysis. If a nation does not have the means to preserve corpses for proper autopsy and timely DNA analysis how wold it have the more complex technology for standard chemical analysis of current explosives?

      You need to study your bible better. Not all the dead were raised by “men of God”. No true healer of God works or heals unless God authorizes the miracle. There has been and always will be a difference between the Lord Jesus Christ who is also God and a prophet who is man. Christ was sin-less but documentation of the various sins and errors of prophets are replete in scripture. So let’s be sound in our analysis.

      Please present good data not abuse … for that is worthy of the name christian.

      It’s important that to recognize that activities at the SCOAN has done more to make Jesus Christ known to the nations round the world than those at many places you might call “church”.

      SCOAN is one of the few exports that Nigeria has that most citizens round the world do not sneer at.

      Blessings
      Gabriel.

      • First things first my very “smart” friend,

        State of the art science has yet to produce any explosive device without the mandatory “sound-effect and fireworks” that follows right after it is detonated…that’s the law of physics & nature which is the law of God (for good measure) that you are claiming has just been broken at the scoan building collapse…

        Wish “miraculous scoan” could hire your very “competent” rocket science legal-services to help their hapless solicitors prove to the court and rest “dumb” people of the world like “us” how on earth those controlled demolition bombs “miraculously” detonated without any loud noise, fire sparks & black smoke in this 21st century of ballistic science…since proven science says: to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, hence no smoke without fire and no explosion without sound…You get me?

        Perhaps we will start believing you guys that: pigs can naturally fly in the air, fishes can naturally walk on land and humans can naturally breathe in water outside your make believe miraculous world of scoan…

        Last time I checked, the scripture clearly documents that not only the Son of God but also the men of God in the Bible were massively by God used to save the lives people of God be they sick or dead or in grave danger of annihilation from enemy kings and armies…

        If you are a Nigerian as i am, then you would know that for us mainstream Nigerian Christians be they catholics, anglicans, methodists, baptists, presbyterians, apostolics, pentecostals etc this synagogue prophet and church that has been comprehensively rejected by all of the above as a “contemporary” Christian minister and church respectively are a global embarrassment to us and the worst Nigerian evangelical export ever to befall us…

        Because this is the only church that grows in scandalous quantum leaps & bounds when it comes to people being deceived, oppressed, abused and even killed in their countless numbers since the days when about 30 years ago, a 100 times better & greater Nigerian evangelist called Benson Idahosa first brought the pentecostal ministry from America to Nigeria and thereby evangelized the whole of Africa and the world at large with the gospel of pentecostalism that is why today millions of Africans are pentecostal Christians including your so-called “wannabe pentecostal” synagogue prophet & church…is that not a by far “superior” testimony of a Nigerian church called “Church of God Mission” founded by the late Bishop Benson Idahosa that cannot be “sneered” at by anyone anywhere in the world???

        For screaming out loud…if this synagogue prophet and church are doing the right and scriptural thing in their Christian ministrations, this TBJW blogsite will not exist in the first place and perhaps many of their Christian critics both online & offline might even be one their members…but as things stands:
        God Forbid!

        I Rest My Case!

  7. Gabriel, I hope your advice for people to be wise also applies to tbj and his scoan propaganda machine who, by their massive propaganda which they have been rapidly disseminating, have also arrived at their own conclusion that it was a “controlled demolition” even before your own so-called “true experts” have conclusively investigated the cause of the collapse. it goes both ways.

    • Hence I say … let us good christians wait for the conclusion of the matter. Where are your experts, sir? All we have are your opinions and possible bias. Hopefully the Nigerian authorities will provided experts of international caliber to comment on implosion, foundation failure …. etc.

      Blessings.

  8. Shame on satan and his agents who call themselves T B Joshua watch! These demons are rejoicing thinking that they have won. The so-called coroner is digging his own shallow grave by flexing his little muscles against the true Man of God T B Joshua. Those satanists trying to dispute the controlled demolition fact will be ashamed in the end. For the coroner he better not be mistaken to overstep his mandate. The way the City of Lagos itself is built from roads to everything has not and can never be approved by any sensible authority. How can the authorities who are in charge rundown Lagos which has no traffic lights or roads to talk about or any city planning to talk about ask for building permits? I mean the whole of Lagos needs to get an existence permit before asking individuals to produce permits. T B Joshua ministry has been fixing potholes in Lagos and the City or state for that should be the last entities to allow satanists to use them to harass Prophet T B Joshua! Leave T B Joshua alone or God’s wrath with consume you and your evil bones will be scattered to hell!

  9. I don’t follow, are you saying that scoan are not good christians since they have already concluded, before the proper authorities have finished their investigations, that it was a “controlled demolition” as seen in their unceasing propaganda??? are scoan now the “true experts” in your view, sir??? stop speaking from both sides of your mouth!

    • It’s plain English brother. I’m saying “let’s be good Christians …. ” ie you and I …. and await the conclusion of deliberations of a panel of experts.
      Let your speech be seasoned with grace … little christ.

      • Let’s … (you and l) raise the standard of analytical dialogue on this website and minimize unchristian abuse and bias. I know it’s hard … but try please. Christ would approve of that effort.
        We had a panel of true international experts, with the highest credentials and best chemical data, on the TB Joshua case.

      • Typo on cell:
        Let’s … (you and l) raise the standard of analytical dialogue on this website and minimize unchristian abuse and bias. I know it’s hard … but try please. Christ would approve of that effort.
        We NEED a panel of true international experts, with the highest credentials and best chemical data, on the TB Joshua case

      • @Gabriel, I think you’re directing your comments at the wrong party. We are 100% behind an open, transparent and unbiased investigation. The group working against this is SCOAN. It was SCOAN who have been putting out all kinds of conspiracy theories as if they are fact, it is SCOAN who didn’t allow the coroner to visit the site (at least to start with), it is SCOAN who have refused to cooperate with the authorities by releasing a list of names of people who are thought to have been in the building. It is the SCOAN lawyers who are doing everything in their power to keep TB Joshua from appearing in the court.

        Yes, we are dismissing the controlled explosion or chemical theories, as are all the experts. That’s not bias, that’s just the obvious analysis of the available evidence. Neither of these theories would have ever come up if SCOAN didn’t start them.

        I admire your call for open, analytical dialogue, but please address this to SCOAN

      • @Gabriel

        Also, for the record we have dismissed claims from both sides that have insufficient evidence. Quite a few people have suggested the building collapse was deliberately orchestrated by TBJ as part of a ritual sacrifice. Since this is pure speculation without evidence we have not supported this claim either.

  10. you came on here like some primary school headteacher pontificating to folks. now you are sanctimoniously preaching restraint. your english is clear, and it is definitely not preaching that same restraint to the scoan brigade who have already concluded the collapse to be a martyrdom of unwitting innocents!!! excuse me, isn’t that double standards??? what we REALLY need is for tbj to get his behind in court and come clean on ALL that he knows!!!

  11. If abusing and causing is the only way you make a point on this platform, then there’s a problem. We’ve all done good in our own little way, does that mean we shouldn’t be punished when we commit a crime.
    Scoan has been spending it’s time uploading videos of what a controlled demolition and collapse by structural defect should look like, so much for leaving investigation to the authorities. The coroner wants Tbj to say in court, what he has been saying in his social network platform and behind he’s church walls. Is any MAN above the Law? Insulting people here wouldn’t change anything, even if the government let’s him go, one way or the other he would expose himself. “When breeze go blow, foul ynash go open” but seems in tbj’s case we need more than mere breeze, we need a typhoon.

    • It’s hard to know what level to respond to your statement cos I’m not sure if you are Christian, Muslim or free- thinker …. So here goes: If your main concern is corruption, deception and decay in the world … then broaden your vision and include the politicians and numerous other religious groups in your range of fire. Their atrocities are a hundred fold worse than what we’ve been commenting on here. More over their performance and greed have left >95% of their citizens without hope.

      • If you think it’s important to expose the politicians, why not do it yourself? The people at TBJWatch are finite people with finite resources (I.e. Time and energy) and have already done a great job by bringing to light the misdeeds at SCOAN. Important it is that when misdeeds are reported the source is credible. Thus no better whistleblower on Temitope Balogun than the people at TBJWatch, and no better crime for TBJWatch to report on than those committed by Temitope Balogun.

        Plus you use a false dichotomy. One would imagine that as people become more aware – in such a vivid way as TBJWatch’s excellent, rigorous style would allow – they may newly turn their attention to other parasites in the fold (such as, for example, money-grabbing leeches like LeRoy Thompson). Knowing one evil, and knowing it well, may lead to the learning of other evils. Particularly so when you consider how TEmitope Balogun is really at the nexus of Nigerian social evils (exploitation, corruption, violence rolled into one).

      • If @tbjoshuawatch earned a dime for every instance an ‘intelligent’ mind opined that he should cast his net further and wider, he’d be a billionaire by now. It is an old overused tactic to distract them from their mission. He has settled on one charlatan and has tons of evidence. What you can do is to take your advice and do whatever you THINK he is not doing so you can complement him 🙂

        TB Joshua heresies,error and deceptions are pretty too much for @tbjoshuawatch I doubt they can afford to take up your advice. You would do well to FOCUS and start THINKING over what they are doing instead of detracting them with unsolicited ideas

  12. Yes In addition to TB Joshua going before a competent court of law, all of us (ie you and I) most engage in rational, comprehensive and objective analysis and dialogue otherwise we commentators will be guilty of the falsehood we accuse TB Joshua of.
    Blessings in Christ Jesus.

  13. If the owners of this Web site believe they have data from world accredited experts then they should publish it. Until then their statements are simply opinions not free from prejudice. However I assume the owners of the website are Christian and will keep the style if not substance of there witness worthy.

    • You are demanding far too high a level of evidence. I do not believe we must submit ourselves to such rigour in concluding on this clown. Simply looking at

      a) the integrity — or lack thereof — shown over the years by this organisation
      b) the cult-like structure which is counter-inducive to truth
      c) the lack of testimonial reliability from this organisation
      d) the profit-maximising, cost-cutting agendas common to most mega-churches but made even more unchained and unchecked by the power Temitope Balogun wields
      and e) the unconstancy and implausibility of other explanations provided

      and the standard narrative seems to gain much more traction. Of course when it comes to a court of law precision and rigour must take the day, but here simple common sense and well-grounded intuition may reign.

  14. Typo on cell:
    If the owners of this Web site believe they have data from world accredited experts then they should publish it. Until then their statements are simply opinions not free from prejudice. However I assume the owners of the website are Christian and will keep the style if not substance of their witness worthy.

    • @ Gabriel,

      Our convictions are according to you always dubious and so to speak full of flaws. But your own convictions are they to be lived by ? By for example posting videos that are suggestive to your own agenda and financial tapping out of it. You think you can put out your own agenda because that is what you live by. Why did you not graduate in Criminology like this lyung girl recently on SCOAN testified and where TB Joshua went out on a limb and told her she was a “bad girl.” Does it suffice to say that whenever the situation occurs in SCOAN they can adjust their scenarios to talking from both sides of their mouth and make it justified in their own eyes for propaganda means and cartwheeling their story as been send by God to do so and where onlookers are being portrayed by the SCOAN camera as hard thinking with their heads supported in their hands.

      For example. When I do good I look at everyone and tell them good about them because that is fitting for day such as that, but when I am found out of being bad, do I have to berate others of being bad themselves and this broadcast over their private channel EmTV so that the onlookers can never make up their minds.

      A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. James‬ ‭1‬:‭8‬ KJV

      It is always a different story applicable as they see fit for their agendas. And we always have to wait according to others who diligently working overnights to cover things up and put people on the wrong footing. Hence the reason I don’t followe TBJs advice, but rather go back to my own prayer cubicle and read my own Bible in at least I know then that God is not a man that He should lie. Or worse that we should lie.

      Let me remind you once more, MH370, 200 BOKO Haram girls, Ebola I.e “anointed water” and a whole heap of false promises that only donkeys will believe when see one told to them. Good luck with your false private prophet and your own video propaganda venture. One must have a hobby to entertain themselves whether it is full of lies it is ok in your own eyes, right ? God is absolute not watching ?

  15. We (you and I) should continue in our prayer closets, reading the scriptures humbly, leaning on God (not entirely on our understanding) … and God will have the final word.
    Meanwhile I can not recommend “throwing the baby out with the bath water”.
    There is no perfect church or prophet, pastor or priest … let me review your own church’s website … if you disagree.
    I’m not in the employment of SCOAN … living thousands of miles away.
    Blessings in Christ Jesus.

    • Temitope ain’t got nothing on my local Methodist ministers…coz’ they don’t build substandard shoddy accommodation that kills people! Which is why we’re talking about him and not them.

  16. And where does poor tbj get +/-15 000 000 niras together so soon to pay to the victims and their families? I thought he gave everything away to the poor? While he pays his disciples next to nothing? It must be a pain in his evil, covetous little heart.

    1. On Friday Joshua’s church released a statement saying a R50 000 donation would be paid towards funeral expenses of each family of the victims of the church building collapse.

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/north-west/pastors-welcome-tb-joshua-donation-1.1770591#.VE3KqCKUeSo

    1. Synagogue tragedy: T.B Joshua to pay victims’ families N750,000 each

    http://dailypost.ng/2014/10/25/synagogue-tragedy-t-b-joshua-pay-victims-families-n750000/

  17. We hope that the time has come for the false prophet, TBJ, to appear in court. And let TBJ be reminded that the true prophets and apostles of God never hired a lawyer, but the Spirit of God spoke through them.
    The time has come for this false prophet to be exposed publicly.

    • @MrTerrific you are so so so so stupid, idiotic and mad. all your intentions are so wicked that you wish Prophet TBJ be locked, impossible!!!! imposible!!! for you fool. know ye that what they are going for is not a court but rather just a panel set up to know the cause of the collapse, so knw it , you stinking illetrate that cannot understand simple english.
      Noitn will happen to TBJ, long live Scoan, long live Emmanuel Tv and all about it.

    • @ Mr, T.,

      Exactly where did you see Jesus or any disciple, apostle, prophet go with lawyer hand in hand ? Please TB Joshua Watch write an article about that how the cowardly “so great world” famous TB Joshua that has to hide behind ferocious attorneys that the world has produced for his defence. Unbelievable. I have been to court many times and just took my Bible to prove that His Word is my defence to all my situations. And if the Holy Spirit is my witness why do I need Lawyer for ??

      What a hypocrite. What is he afraid of ? Ahhh not being in control and without his little minions that pave the way for him. The Coroner and other lawyers should ask serious peppered questions to him and twist the thumbscrews on hard when he is wriggling and turning in the witness stand.

      Things like why he allowed to built while not having permit and why if he had his “visions” did do nothing to prevent the calamity and why he lied about the MH370 and the Boko Haram girls as well his excuse not going to SIERRA Leone to deal with the victims personally !!!! Why he is using bribery with journalists and play the tape in front of him. As well he tries to bribe the victims from the building collapse with money to silence them ? All that, write it to the Coroner and tell him that if he is truly a man of God why did he not bring even one victim back to life ? Oh man, I can’t stand it that people can be so lenient upon such a master charlatan that wriggles and twist as hard as they can to get away with those matters he has been perpetrating. Indeed is he above the Law ? Let someone preach to him that Jesus came to fulfil the Law but not take any iota away from it and Paul who says we uphold the Law, because it is a terror for those that sin and tresspass. Was Miriam not slain with leprosy ? Were those women judged by Solomon about their baby of one that had died not justly Judged ? Did Jesus not say give Ceasar what is Ceasars ? Was Paul not brought before the magistrates ? Smitheth on his face for this ?

      You scam profiler TB Joshua you, if God is for you who can be against you ? If you were not guilty you would not care to stand in the dock for the entire world to see you interrogated. When will the fanatic brainwashed cult followers see, he was not infallible after all ? Let it be known to all who read this TB Joshua is NOT WITHOUT SIN ! To God be the Glory, to Jesus the Lord and King to which all knees shall bow and all tongues shall confess that ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS LORD ! including you TB Joshua !

  18. What is wicked about appearing before the public to tell the whole world what really happened? The time has come to expose this criminal and fraudster who claims to be a “man of God” but is nothing but an ordinary false prophet.
    Hee, hee, hee, hee!
    Hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo!
    Haa, haa, haa, haa!

  19. the theory of a terrorist attack is very questionable, first by the level of security there is in SCOAN it is impossible to enter the premises with a knife not talking of a bomb to bring down a whole building and if it is a terrorist attack why the chief of security of SCOAN is walking free and his security team is still at work. SCOAN is a big institution attracting thousands of visitors so the health and safety of visitor must be protected and anything happening to any visitor the head of SCOAN must be accountable

  20. Evan knows something when he says ‘Noitn will happen to TBJ’. I too hold little faith in Inquests in Africa. They tend to be a ploy to cool tempers of an angry public and a clever way not to hold anyone personally responsible for culpable catastrophes. Little ever comes out of them. Their final recommendation will be ‘The following need to be investigated…’ and that will be the end of it. That report will duly be filed in an archive somewhere to accumulate dust.
    I pray this inquest is different and brings justice to the victims. I hope in the end they wont still be looking for something right in front of them. It will be a relief if it nails the culpable person whether it be tbj or others and not the poor watchman at the gate who denied access to the coroner.

    • myfriend i repeat again nothing will Happen to TBJ. YOU KNOW WHY???? AND WHAT IS KNOW IS BECUASE GOD IS FULLY WITH HIM. ALL OF YOU HATERS CAN GO HUG TRANSFORMER.. HEE HE HE HE EH WE HAVE VICTORY ALWAYS, YOU ALL CRITIZING TBJ ARE ALL IN TROUBLE, FIRST LOOK AT HOW MAD YOU PEOPLE HAVE GONE, YOU GUYS CANNOT STAY A MINUTE WITHOUT THINKING OF TBJ, WHILE HE IS ON HE OWN DOING GODS WORK WITHOUT EVEN NOITICING YOU PEOPLE, WHILE YOU FOOLS STAY HERE 24/7 AND WRITE NONSENSE AGAINST HIM, I CALL IT MADNESS, BECUASE YOU GUYS HAVE GONE RAW MAD. SEE YOUR LIVES, EVERYTIME WHATS ON YOUR MIND IS TO COME TO THIS WEBSITE AND TYPE, HAHAHHAHA HAHA THIS IS MADNESS. LOL MADNESS HAVE STARTED FROM YOU PEOPLE, HAHAHAHHAHAH KEEP ON THINKING OF WHAT TO TYPE , WHILE HUNGER STRIKE YOUR FAMILIES AT HOME AND YOU LEAVE YOUR WORK PLACE CMING HERE TO TYPE NONSENSE, HAHAHHAHA HAHAHA SEE AS UNA LIVES DEY NOW OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHA

      • TB Joshua should pay heavily for criminal negligence. Am sure in between being gang raped sessions in the proson cells, he can find time to preach Christ and healing too

      • @ Evan,

        See how little you know ? God is with All those that are His’ that means us too we are the Lord’s and we will follow Him and no deceiving maniac like TB Joshua who in his arrogance has now 120 or more people who died in his presence because of negligence and deliberate disregard. Too busy in prayer mountain taking phone calls instead interceding of what was about to happen. No he was scrambling for his skin to safe quick and running his little legs off because in his warped mind he was telling us all they were all after him. If they were after him they would have sniped him long long time. Because no one wants to kill their own milk cow is it now ? Unless it is festering with diseases, like lying, deceiving, faking your miracles to create notoriety for one self empire circus to enhance yourself with imaginary stories as well demon infested leaders that go all over the world with ” anointed water ” that drives out demons except out of themselves. Let God be true and every man a liar and let all the Glory be to God and let the false private propheliar TB Joshua be the example for all the false lying prophets of the world that JUDGMENT HAS COME TO GOD’S HOUSE ! And that their time has come for judgment and will be judged for milking out God’s peculiar people a holy nation and His Children. Let’s blow the Shofar !

        http://youtu.be/f-78YLWvNxA Yeshua HaMassiach is Lord ! And He is coming !

      • @vooke
        It seems somewhat excessive to discuss him being raped, though your sentiment is understandable

  21. Hey easy, take it easy Evan. No need to be bitter, angry or become an “uncontrolled explosion”. Pray God to pacify you.

  22. @Evan,
    You are conveniently forgetting that YOU are the one who has gone mad. Your irrational and emotional language testifies to this fact.

    • @survivor shut up, possessed fellow, to hell with you, nee deliverance. because if you are a real christain , you wont just sit stupily there and jugde. goat!!!

  23. To Nosa:

    God uses us (Christians) inspite of our short comings). Bishop Benson Idahosa made the huge error of preaching “prosperity theology” which is partially responsible for much of the problems we see in the church world wide and in Nigeria in particular. By the way the Bishop publicly declared his error – but at the end of his ministry. If your traditional denominations are much better than SCOAN then why have they not been light and salt in that community.

    Concerning the lack of explosive sounds at the time of the building collapse – do you have evidence to that effect? Please publish if so.

    There are other “questions” in your “pros” but time does not permit a response.

    Blessings

    • Ummmm….TBJ is also a major proponent of prosperity theology. Just so you’re aware. if it is false teaching, then he is himself a false teacher.

      • To “M”

        Clearly you’ve not been listening to his sermons or you don’t know what prosperity theology doctrine is. Synopsis: If you’re a good Christian you will be rich, health … etc. If you’re not rich it’s because of your sins or poor faith.
        My experience is that 95% of critics (especially Nigerian ones) have never personally listened to TBJ’s sermons or those of the wise men.

    • Friend,

      Am okay with that…cause if it is prosperity doctrine we are contending with here and not the indiscriminate death of innocent people then its a milder issue…

      but unlike Bishop Idahosa your prophet sees himself as infallible and even now still threatens us with is death attacks from his “killer god” or assassins for speaking against his conduct…

      a classic case of King Saul the rejected who saw no error in himself like your prophet and King David the accepted who confessed and repented of his error like Bishop Idahosa…

      which ever the way the penny drops…contact your prophet’s lawyers and see if you could help them convince the court and the entire world of his controlled demolition theory as apparently his god seems helpless and clueless as to how to do so with intelligent reasoning homo sapeans like us who cant be bribed or bullied to believe such a lie and delusion…

      I Rest My Case…

    • I have indeed listened to his sermons and he does indeed teach exactly that. Like all smart prosperity teachers, he throws in enough caveats to get himself off the hook, but that is the core of his teachings. And the testimonials that he presents bear that out, in the language his people use, as well as the disgusting way they treat people who were not healed or did not have a luxury car from heaven appear in their driveway. The minute someone says, “wait, why doesn’t this work for me?” They are ostracized and told they didn’t have the faith to maintain their miracle.

  24. ….. ‘Don’t drive T.B Joshua out of Nigeria by your actions in this matter,’ some of the placards read….Time Premium News paper published.

    Yes, please do not drive TB Joshua out of Nigeria, because we DO NOT want him in South Africa!!!…..
    Not once a month, not even for a day, NOT ever.
    Keep him locked in scoan!

    • This is one crazy lawyer hired by the false prophet, TBJ, to help him avoid public interrogation. TBJ is already scared to face public scrutiny, where he is unable to manipulate anyone.
      TBJ, come out of hiding to defend your stupid theory of “controlled demolition.” Now is the time to expose this fraudster who calls himself “man of God,” but is just an ordinary criminal.
      Shame on you, Temitope Balogun Joshua, your day of reckoning has come!

      • @ Mr. T.,

        The more it is clear he is a coward. Except his fanatic cult followers will not see it. Where did JESUS hide behind lawyers ? Paul ? Peter ? John ? Any major prophets ? Minor prophets ? Where was the Law undone ? Don’t you see that he is not infallible at all ? Why you think he sent off his daughter Sarah to study Law in UK and US ? She wanted to be a teacher, not a lawyer.

        I want it to make it perfectly clear to you, TB Joshua and his disciples and his fanatic cult followers speak FROM BOTH SIDES OF THEIR MOUTH ! They speak what comes out best for them, whatever is progressing their lies, their diversions, duck when they see a way out, imagine JESUS doing what they do when going to Calvary going to the Cross, being whipped, spit upon, hairs pulled from His beard, punched, crown of Thorns pressed and beating in His Head, nails pierced in feet and wrists, to call upon all His lawyers that were available for Him, he could even call upon legions of Angels, yet He did not so.

        Mr. T., THE GRAVY TRAIN IS TOO LUCRATIVE AND THE FAME TOO ENJOYABLE WHEN IT GOES THEIR WAY AND WHEN THEY STAND IN THE LIMELIGHT. WHEN THERE IS SOMEONE PUT A DIMMER ON THE SPOTLIGHT THEY START TO WRIGGLE AND TAKE REFUGE IN ALL EARTHLY MEANS AVAILABLE TO WRIGGLE OUT TO GET OFF THE HOOK, TO WHINGE AND WHINE, TO SUBTERFUGE AND DIVERSION TO THE CAUSE OF JUSTICE !

        You and I have seen it when we were there, when we saw their posts, saw their answers. At any time they change their chameleon skins to blend in their turmoil environment. Remember “scratches” remember “few” remember any other excuse. Lies upon lies, diversion upon diversion.

        Mr. T., do you and I know that God is not a Man that He should lie, is He not transparent ? Is HE not JUST ? Do we know JESUS slithering away from what He faced ? Did He not say to His Father, if it is possible to let this cup pass by ? But told His Father, let NOT MY WILL BE DONE, BUT YOURS !!!!!

        We can see when the thumbscrews are tighthened the more they wrighle and show their own flesh and pretend they are in “peace” likely we are taken for a ride by the Master main Chameleon. Do you know who that is ? We know from Genesis 3, we know that we know from Ezekiel 28, we know that we know, from Isaiah 14.

        Who is delaying judgment ? Do you see when he himself goes through these pressures he can’t let it be God that has allowed and done this to show HE DOES NOT SHARE ANY GLORY TO ANY MORTAL MAN, WOMAN or Child ! And that every knee shall bow and any tongue confess that Jesus is Lord the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords ! May His Name be praised to all the ends of the Earth, this universe, multiverse.

  25. Why is TB Joshua ducking and diving not to appear in court.

    Does he have something to hide?

    TB Joshua ‘must testify’ at inquest into Nigerian building collapse

    A coroner on Wednesday threatened popular Nigerian preacher TB Joshua with arrest if he failed to testify at an inquest into the deaths of 116 people at his church.
    Oyetade Komolafe rejected arguments from Joshua’s lawyers that the televangelist should not be summoned because he did not directly witness the September 12 tragedy.

    http://citizen.co.za/266235/tb-joshua-must-testify-inquest-nigerian-building-collapse/

    Good for you Oyetade Komolafe.

  26. And what has happened to the 4 wise men? Did God drop them as well? Why are they not praying for people anymore?

    • @ Just Wonder,

      Too many focussed on their false stage managed 40 minute “demon interrogations”. And something else, I am not mentioning it because it would cause them to divert more as well the cause of justice.

      Don’t you know that when the door is open and too much draught comes in they quickly close that door up. Don’t you know when scammers are uncovered they scramble ? I.e. Hide for cover. When the mud is stirred up, they all hide. This is what scammers do at all times.

      • ………….The coroner waded in at intervals to calm the heated exchange between Mr. Obafunwa and the SCOAN lawyer…………………..

        the unmannered followers of TB Joshua are screaming and shouting and cursing again. Just as is their ‘godly’ customs!

        Synagogue Building Collapse: Coroner threatens to arrest T.B Joshua

        But the coroner stood his ground, reminding the lawyer that the court specifically invited Mr. Jonathan and not The Synagogue Church.

        “The church is not our problem here. We summoned the prophet, we summoned the contractors. The prophet is different from the church,” Mr. Komolafe said.

        The coroner waded in at intervals to calm the heated exchange between Mr. Obafunwa and the SCOAN lawyer

        “You are a professional. You don’t intimidate your witness. You don’t ask a question to harass a witness,” Mr. Komolafe told Olalekan Ojo, one of SCOAN’s lawyers.

        On the claims by the SCOAN lawyer that the embalming of the bodies could have led to the washing off of the evidence that victims died from fire, Mr. Obafunwa said that it was “not possible.”

        “You don’t look for smoke inhalation outside the body. Evidence of smoke inhalation is in the lungs,” he said.

        The scoan lawyer urged the court to issue an order nullifying the composition of the Coroner and the proceedings so far, as well as a perpetual injunction restraining the defendants from “further proceeding, sitting, investigating, embarking on fact finding or taking any untoward action in any manner whatsoever on any facts connected to the case.”

        Really, amazing!

        https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/170327-synagogue-building-collapse-coroner-threatens-to-arrest-t-b-joshua.html

  27. To TB Joshua:

    Ezekiel 13 New International Version (NIV)
    False Prophets Condemned
    13 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination: ‘Hear the word of the Lord! 3 This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Woe to the foolish[a] prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing! 4 Your prophets, Israel, are like jackals among ruins. 5 You have not gone up to the breaches in the wall to repair it for the people of Israel so that it will stand firm in the battle on the day of the Lord. 6 Their visions are false and their divinations a lie. Even though the Lord has not sent them, they say, “The Lord declares,” and expect him to fulfill their words. 7 Have you not seen false visions and uttered lying divinations when you say, “The Lord declares,” though I have not spoken?

    8 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: Because of your false words and lying visions, I am against you, declares the Sovereign Lord. 9 My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign Lord.
    10 “‘Because they lead my people astray, saying, “Peace,” when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash, 11 therefore tell those who cover it with whitewash that it is going to fall. Rain will come in torrents, and I will send hailstones hurtling down, and violent winds will burst forth. 12 When the wall collapses, will people not ask you, “Where is the whitewash you covered it with?”

    13 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: In my wrath I will unleash a violent wind, and in my anger hailstones and torrents of rain will fall with destructive fury. 14 I will tear down the wall you have covered with whitewash and will level it to the ground so that its foundation will be laid bare. When it[b] falls, you will be destroyed in it; and you will know that I am the Lord. 15 So I will pour out my wrath against the wall and against those who covered it with whitewash. I will say to you, “The wall is gone and so are those who whitewashed it, 16 those prophets of Israel who prophesied to Jerusalem and saw visions of peace for her when there was no peace, declares the Sovereign Lord.”’

    17 “Now, son of man, set your face against the daughters of your people who prophesy out of their own imagination. Prophesy against them 18 and say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Woe to the women who sew magic charms on all their wrists and make veils of various lengths for their heads in order to ensnare people. Will you ensnare the lives of my people but preserve your own? 19 You have profaned me among my people for a few handfuls of barley and scraps of bread. By lying to my people, who listen to lies, you have killed those who should not have died and have spared those who should not live.
    20 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against your magic charms with which you ensnare people like birds and I will tear them from your arms; I will set free the people that you ensnare like birds. 21 I will tear off your veils and save my people from your hands, and they will no longer fall prey to your power. Then you will know that I am the Lord. 22 Because you disheartened the righteous with your lies, when I had brought them no grief, and because you encouraged the wicked not to turn from their evil ways and so save their lives, 23 therefore you will no longer see false visions or practice divination. I will save my people from your hands. And then you will know that I am the Lord.’”

    • Just wonder, EXACTLY!!!!
      I WILL TEAR THEM FROM YOUR ARMS AND THEY WILL NO LONGER FALL PREY TO YOUR POWER.
      Come Lord, come…..

  28. Her leaders judge for a bribe, her priests teach for a price and her prophets tell fortunes for money. Yet they lean upon the LORD and say, “Is not the LORD among us? – Emmanuel. No disaster will come upon us.” – Micah 3:11
    Therefore because of you, Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become a heap of rubble, the temple hill a mound overgrown with thickets – Micah 3:12
    The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end? – Jer 5:31
    And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them – Jer 14:16

  29. Just Wonder, thanks and big ups for keeping us abreast on ongoing proceedings. You are our make-do CNN in this matter. You are THE bomb (not the “controlled demolition” variety though). Can’t believe all I just read. Shocking!!!

  30. To Nosa

    Actually a couple of implosion experts in USA were shown the images on Sept 13th and they both independently agreed that it was an implosion not structural failure. Their evaluation was obtained without telling them who was involved or where the location was.
    The rest of your pros refects too many erroneous analysis for time to permit a response today.
    Blessings.

    • @Gabriel,
      I have religiously followed 911 conspiracy theorists and I can assure you they all come to naught. Start by giving references for your claims. Or is this one of those urban legends? If you want to put your brains to good use, visit metabunk.org and have your claims throughly washed and crucified on the cross of your ignorance

      Back to this charlatan, it is clear you are nowhere as objective as you purport. You should be cheering calls to the inquest by condemning TB Joshua’s attempts to avoid the same. But lo and behold, you don’t even see that. All you are sheepishly calling for is ‘prayers’ and ‘patience’ and ‘Christian spirit’.

      How Christian is it to evade your accusers? Did Paul attempt to avoid them?

      • If the secular government is the minister of God to do justice, (Romans 13) then there should be no reason for Mr. Joshua to be worried about anything. If the judges are unjust (Psalm 82 is all about that!) then God Himself will judge them.

        However, he should obey the advice given in 1 Peter 2:13-16.

        1Pt 2:13 . Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

        2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

        2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

        2:16:As free, and not using [your] liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

    • @Gabriel,

      Words for you to look up in Google and learn how to spell them as well the meaning of them.

      trickery, intrigue, deviousness, evasion, deceit, deception, dishonesty, cheating, duplicity, guile, cunning, craft, craftiness, slyness, chicanery, bluff, pretence, fraud, fraudulence, sophistry, sharp practice; informal monkey business, funny business, hanky-panky, jiggery-pokery, kidology, every trick in the book; informal codology, scam circus, 419, lying, misleading and figments of imagination.
      
    • My Gee,

      I strongly suggest you bang up your “A team” of implosion & explosion plus “erosion” experts if you like…and catch the next flight for Las-Gidi (Lagos) before November 5th to prove your “explosive” controlled demolition theory at the coroner court so as to save your “Prophet Gee” the “explosive embarrassment” of having to “explosively testify” in an “uncontrolled demolishing and demoralizing” court-room building before the entire waiting world of “implosive & explosive” experts plus dumb laymen like us…

      Let’s really see how smart your “Prophet Gee” and his I.Q level really is without his stage managed theatrical Shakespearean scenes of Hamlet’s…To testify or not to testify…in court!

      That’ll be really cool!!!

      Real Men talk the talk and walk the walk…
      False prophets talk the talk and “duck” the walk…

      I Rest my Case…

    • Actually a couple of implosion experts in USA…

      Gabriel, my question for you is “Who?”

      Did your source give you any information about whom they were?

  31. Evan, your frantic and continuous posting of the video above, is no less than a clear declaration of idolatry towards Tb Joshua, both by yourself and the “ostracized” John Chi. And I quote: “I am what I am today by his(Tb Joshua) grace.”
    AS CHRISTIANS, WE ARE WHAT WE ARE BY GOD’S GRACE ALONE.
    Period.
    Fundamental christian teaching.

  32. TB Joshua you are a criminal, pimp,low life and a murderer. You have exploited & abused vulnerable people & should be in prison.You killed those poor people in a blood sacrifice.

  33. I have just watched a video on You tube exposing your atrocities.You are not a man of God but Satanist & a cult leader. Your antics make me sick you are a child molester who sleeps with underage girls and has destroyed the lives of thousands.

  34. @Jeremiah,

    Do you also notice that all the demons always speak perfect English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Nigerian, Ghanian, German etc. etc. as the deliveree is going through his or her so called . The higher the education, the more the “demon” is telling you the garbage and lies from themselves they have gleaned from the Google.com and Wikipedia.com domain.

    And the so called grimaces they do as if they are being run by their “imaginary king of demons” by frowning their eyes to intimidate the whole scene.

    Let’s look at Jesus’ way of Deliverance:

    And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. Matthew 17:18

    And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the child, and delivered him again to his father. Luke 9:42

    Then He cast them out.

    And he preached in their synagogues throughout all Galilee, and cast out devils. Mark 1:39

    He did it verbally (Matthew 8:16), not by a certain ritualistic procedure.

    When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word

    He didn't allow the demons to speak (Mark 1:34; Luke 4:41) for the primary reason they would expose Him before His appointed time, expect in asking Legion’s name (Mark 5:9; Mark 1:25; Luke 4:35; Mark 3:11-12).
    
    He told them to "be quiet and come out" (Luke 4:35; Mark 1:25).
    

    But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be quiet, and come out of him!”

    Other times He told them to "go" (Matthew 8;32).
    

    And He said to them, “Go.” So when they had come out, they went into the herd of swine.

    He did deliverance over a distance (Matthew 15:21-28; Mark 7:24-30).

    Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

    29: Then He said to her, “For this saying go your way; the demon has gone out of your daughter.”

    SCOAN deliverance:

    1. Hyping up everything.
    2. Behaving super intelligent with funny impossible stories.
    3. A bunch of people who ogle it all of the lies that this so called “demon” is doing or saying.
    4. The endless camera closeups that only glorifies the so called “demon” is doing or saying.
    5. A lot of funny remarks are made.
    6. Asking all the demons their names and what they do, as if that would make any difference to the scene.
    7. Putting these videos on Youtube for promotion of their own personal gain and not anything.
    8. The next time they come back the “deliverees” they are full of demons again, but now other one’s.
    9. Leaders with all kinds of “demons” and go out deliver other “demons” in others.
    10. Everything is the Devil his’ fault, not ours.

    30: And when she had come to her house, she found the demon gone out, and her daughter lying on the bed.

    • When He cast them out He forbid them to ever return again (Mark 9:25).

    When Jesus saw that the people came running together, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, “Deaf and dumb spirit, I command you, come out of him and enter him no more!”

  35. No blast injuries on SCOAN victims-IOL news.co.za
    Lagos – A pathologist on Tuesday ruled out claims of an explosion as the cause of a fatal building collapse at the church of a popular Nigerian preacher, saying none of the victims had blast injuries.

    “Bodies were mutilated, severe crush, head injuries, fractured bones, fractured ribs,” Lagos state chief medical examiner Professor John Obafunwa told a coroner’s inquest in the city.

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/no-blast-injuries-on-scoan-victims-1.1771909#.VFWaGPnF9iM

    Hmm… what do you guys think of this?

  36. Say therefore to the people of Israel, ‘I am the LORD YOUR GOD and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians and I will deliver you (disciples of tbj) from slavery to them and I WILL REDEEM YOU WITH AN OUTSTRETCHED ARM AND WITH GREAT ACTS OF JUDGMENT – Exodus 6:6

    After these things I heard something like a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God; BECAUSE HIS JUDGMENTS ARE TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS; for He has judged the great harlot – BABYLON – who was corrupting the earth with her immorality and HE HAS AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS BOND-SERVANTS ON HER.” – Rev 19:1-2

    And Moses said unto the people, FEAR NOT, STAND STILL AND SEE THE SALVATION OF THE LORD, which he will show to you: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen, ye shall see them again no more for ever – Exodus 14:13.

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    • Amen emmaa josee. TB Joshua we see, we will never see him again after God has finished with him.

  38. I dont know why people write bad things about other prophets you are not God only God know which prophets are fake

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