From the archives: Weighing up TB Joshua’s prophecies

In this post, guest author Claire looks at what the bible says about the nature and purpose of prophecy.
Prophecy - TB Joshua style

Prophecy – TB Joshua style

Over the last three years, TB Joshua Watch has publicised aspects of TB Joshua’s ‘ministry’ that to some of us raise concerns. This sites has raised concerns about particular aspects of Mr Joshua and SCOAN – in particular ‘healings’ that have not been proven to be the case, the apparent cult like nature of SCOAN and prophesies that are not all that they appear.

Some of those commenting on this site accuse Mr Joshua of being a ‘false prophet’ whereas others fervently support him and claim him to be a ‘man of God’. In this article, I want to look at prophecy and what the bible actually says about it.

In many of the videos that this site has linked to, Mr Joshua is shown predicting some terrible event (a plane crash, a mass shooting) and asks the audience to pray. These videos are re-publicised after an event to show that he did indeed forecast the event (although often this site contends that these videos are edited or vague and therefore cannot be said truly to forecast anything).

So what does the bible say about prophecy – is Mr Joshua actually prophesying? Many commentators on this site on both sides of the argument point to Deuteronomy 18 v 22 – ‘If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.’ Presumably this is why SCOAN puts out videos after tragedies that appear to prophesy the event in question – a sort of ‘Here you are! It happened! It was true! It was from God!’

But while the Bible tells us to test prophecies to see if they are true, it also gives us some broad principles that we can use to understand whether what Mr Joshua does is prophesy even if it does come true (or could be perceived to be).

Firstly, the clearest instruction is in 1 Corinthinans 14 v3 ‘But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort’.  Do Mr Joshua’s ‘prophecies’ do this? Well the ones I have seen (and I am no expert) don’t. They seem to focus on a potential tragedy and ask people to pray, but I do not see how this causes strengthening, encouragement and comfort.

In John 16 Jesus talks to his disciples about the Holy Spirit: ‘But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you.’(v13,14) A prophecy should tell you what is to come and should bring glory to Jesus.  Even if you believe that Mr Joshua does indeed prophesy the truth, I do not see how his predictions of tragic events bring glory to Jesus.

Deuteronomy 13 v1-3 encourages us that the prophecy should lead us to God:

If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer.

Now I am sure that there will be some people who fervently trust Mr Joshua and who will feel strongly that Mr Joshua is not encouraging them to follow other gods, but these people should accept that these verses do at least show that the fact that a prophecy comes true does not mean it comes from God. I dispute that Mr Joshua’s ‘prophecies’ come true, but those who believe they do cannot rely on this to ‘prove’ that these ‘prophecies’ are therefore from God. Deuteronomy 18 v22 tells us that if it doesn’t come true it can’t come from God, Deuteronomy 13 v1-4 tells us that that doesn’t mean the opposite is true; if a prophecy does come true, that alone doesn’t mean it comes from God. If it comes from God it should lead us to God. I’m not convinced that Mr Joshua’s ‘prophecies’ do this.

And surely if a prophecy comes from God, it should reflect the nature of God. God is love. The most famous description of love is in 1 Corinthians 13:

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.

How do Mr Joshua’s prophecies match up to this? And how does Mr Joshua himself match up to this? The Kingwatch website makes the point that it is often easier to test the prophet rather than the prophecy:

‘Testing individual prophecies can often be difficult. What every Church needs is a prophet who has a proven track record, a person who is known for speaking the word of the Lord. It is easier to test prophets than individual prophecies. A prophet can be watched over time to see if his life is bearing fruit for the Lord (Matthew 7:15-20). Every church needs a proven prophet who can be trusted to bring a reliable word when one is required.’

Having said that, it is also important to make sure that we do not reject what may be a prophecy through a hardened heart. All prophecy must be tested and tested vigorously on a range of measures including:

  • Did it come true?
  • Did it provide strength, encouragement and comfort?
  • Did it bring glory to Jesus?
  • Does it lead us to God?
  • Was it brought in love?

It is up to all of us individually to test Mr Joshua’s ‘prophecies’ vigorously. Those who are sceptical must not test with a hardened heart, looking for evidence that they are not true; and those who believe should remember to test properly and not simply accept each ‘prophecy’ because it falls from the lips of Mr Joshua.

71 thoughts on “From the archives: Weighing up TB Joshua’s prophecies

  1. I have never been to scoan but only had an opportunity of getting the Sticker and the water, one sticker was put on my cars windscreen last year, why then should a mad man get healed after touching the sticker in my compound in Mangochi, Malawi? despise him all you want but I believe he is a true prophet 1000000000000000000 times! I pray that you also see the light one day by his grace!!

    • Iam one of the testimony,i have bee to scoan and managed see the man of God one on one,this man is a servant of God please read what the bible says;

      ,Romans 16 vs 17
      Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

      18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

      • @ Mist,

        I have been to SCOAN too and this is what I found accurately:

        You are like a man who tries to detect a how magician’s illusion works, but is unable to do so, most people are kept in just enough confusion that they are unable to detect how they are being tricked. Most people end up following their own confusion instead of seeing what is actually going on. When you fully comprehend what is going on here, then you are on your way to comprehending how TBJ and SCOAN doctrine is nothing more than a word trick crafted to dupe unsuspecting individuals into accepting the complete nonsense of an illogical farce.

        You went home with something and how did it continue thereafter ? Does it mean now that you have to return and return back again to get something or is there something that you can do by your own ?

        That is the problem. They SCOAN create an environment that you are dependent upon them and their trickery. Instead you get yourself together and start to find your way in your own life instead of hanging on the teats of SCOAN to have even a life of yourself. Which you clearly have not. Nor have the followers and the church goers. And it is exactly the same as if you go to swimming club, pool club, dart club, horse racing, stock exchange broker, etc etc. They all go to SOMETHING to have a life somewhere or where they live. Duh !

        Mist I can guarantee you that if you would sit 24/7 in SCOAN your life is only covered because they might give you food, shelter, whatever. And that is about it. Oh and these stupid, ridiculous, dumb, useless, crazy, mad deliverances that are just a sham. Thank you.

    • Thanks Mr Chiwewe, not sure what these people of TB Watch are looking for. I did tell them that they are wasting their time, we love the Prophet. I have been to SCOAN and was miraculously healed. TB Joshua is a real man of God. They are just jealous of the Grace and anointing of God upon the Prophet. May God forgive them

    • I had numerous stickers, water, books, dvds, visitations to SCOAN.

      THEY DID ABSOLUTE NOTHING than wasting my money, energy, efforts and time on it !

      And because you can get something out of him, you “love” him. FAKE LOVE = interpreted greed and for self ! Bah !

    • A mad man has no religious faith. He touched your sticker unintentionally and “got healed”. That takes away the issue of first believing before getting healed, right? Now I believe there are plenty of hospitals in your country with numerous sick people. Why don’t you take that sticker around the hospitals, make the sick touch it and get healed. You definitely would the hero in your country. you would be dining with your president, you would not have to work because government would just pay you for the noble work you would be doing.

      Come on Chimwemwe, we are not imbeciles here. Go tell your fictitious story in SCOAN and they will not only applaud you but you will be given some cash for a job well done

      • Yet you speak against the bible and the holy spirit. It is not a requirment for those being healed to believe but only for the healer using the holy spirit. The lame beggar had no requirment to believe before Peter healed him. The beggar was expecting to receive silver or gold. So now that we have exposed you wakayima as a false prophet of Gods word, what do you have to say to yourself? You have nothing better than to mock God thinking his healing is a magic sticker than can heal all hospitals? It’s clear you are not of the spirit very clear, so I don’t see how what anything you say means anything regarding judging and discerning spirits.

        Peter Heals a Lame Beggar

        3 One day Peter and John were going up to the temple at the time of prayer—at three in the afternoon. 2 Now a man who was lame from birth was being carried to the temple gate called Beautiful, where he was put every day to beg from those going into the temple courts. 3 When he saw Peter and John about to enter, he asked them for money. 4 Peter looked straight at him, as did John. Then Peter said, “Look at us!” 5 So the man gave them his attention, expecting to get something from them.

        6 Then Peter said, “Silver or gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk.” 7 Taking him by the right hand, he helped him up, and instantly the man’s feet and ankles became strong. 8 He jumped to his feet and began to walk. Then he went with them into the temple courts, walking and jumping, and praising God. 9 When all the people saw him walking and praising God, 10 they recognized him as the same man who used to sit begging at the temple gate called Beautiful, and they were filled with wonder and amazement at what had happened to him.

  2. Not even to mention about the the following so called prophecies:

    MH370 found by the end of the week of 15th of March 2014
    The Chibok girls found by his own admission as being the MOG which after over 500 days still not materialized.
    His promise to go to all the Ebola countries and eradicate it.
    Boko Haram bombed his church.
    Boko Haram will be gone by the end of 2013.
    You fill it in.

    True prophets called of God never glorify themselves. They instantly stop any attempt to take God’s glory for themselves. Acts 10:25-26; Revelation 19:10. Members and followers on his website’s video have replaced Jesus with TB Joshua in John 3:16, and also refer to him as a modern Messiah and Jesus of our day. TB Joshua loves to show the long video about himself at his church and online on Youtube. Carefully crafted, edited, narrated emotionally and with the intention to deceive you that he is harmless and speshul.

  3. Excellent article! Excellent, I commend you.
    1. I want to add the following Biblical examples for further clarification.
    The Bible says – Test Prophecies- right?
    “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world” – 1 John 4:1.
    Firstly let us establish, that a dreamer of dreams can be a prophet-
    “If a PROPHET OR A DREAMER OF DREAMS arises among …. “– Deut 13:1
    “For God does speak—now one way, now another— though no one perceives it.
    In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falls on people as they slumber in their beds” – Job 33:14.
    So let us use the Bible’s criteria to test the prophecies of the Bible according to these points and see whether they are true.
    That is fair isn’t it?
    God gives us a command to test prophecies, He is NOT scared if we put Himself and His prophets to the test.
    So let us test them according to these points –
    •Did it come true?
    •Did it provide strength, encouragement and comfort?
    •Did it bring glory to Jesus?
    •Does it lead us to God?
    •Was it brought in love?
    Mote following.

      • Quote of Prophet TB Joshua made on 29 September 2015.

        “All activities of SCOAN and Emmanuel TV are directed by the Holy Spirit.”

        Really ? So the illegal guest house (Hostel) and the non existing building permit was also an activity by the Holy Spirit ?

        Let me enlighten you and you be the judge of my words regarding that.

        If it was the Holy Spirit, then the Holy Spirit Who flows out of God and Jesus Who is the Giver of Him must have known that on 12 September 2014 this building would be collapsing because of a reason.

        According to the information that is out there, Only the Auditorium had a building permit in 2004.

        So then, if it was an activity of the Holy Spirit than the Holy Spirit had from 2004 until 11th of September 2014 time to tell any prophet, including false private prophet TB Joshua that it would be in danger and cause great harm to many people inside of that building. Yet, the false private prophet claimed he knew about it and sat upon his hands. Or rather he did not knew one iota of it and just did his own agenda by approving for the building of the illegal Hostel and the expansion of it.

        When we visited it was told to us that the “prophet” was involved in everything that was concerning SCOAN as well it’s visitors and that the staff was impressing to us that the “supernatural” abilities bestowed on him were without limits and he knows everything what is happening.

        Ahem, again we can see here that he clearly did not and went ahead by building his empire on the monies given to him from his donors and white washing money from business proponents who then did not have to pay tax and get a part back from it by the distribution of the monies.

        This huckster and scammer has everyone by the tazz and keeps eluding Courts with his lies and his scams which operate through his lying staff to the tune of dare to tell that the victims were answering the call of God to be in Heaven. However that they don’t got to Heaven first is another story, which shows how little this huckster and scammer knows about God and the Bible.

        But coming back to the story here. Holy Spirit activities. If anyone is honest enough to admit that if the Hostel was a Holy Spirit Activity then the Holy Spirit would clearly have said: Do not build the Hostel here, stop putting people into it because it will end up in disaster. So stretching time here we see that there was more than 10 years to hear from God about their illegal scam activities because that is what it was instead of Holy Spirit activities.

        Because God would not have wanted that anyone would have died before their time unnecessary and especially not by neglect.

        We can see how the false private prophet reacted. He eluded 3 times the call to come to Court of Oyetade Komolafe and used Lawyers to block the inquest into the collapsed guesthouse.

        On top of it he had four lies upon his sleeve to divert the course of Justice.

        Boko Haram did it. The same Boko Haram of which he claimed as false private prophet that they will be finished by the end of 2013. While we are now in End 2015 already, Boko Haram still exist and is even a new arm into ISIL or ISIS in the Middle East. After all Mr False Private Prophet it was a LIE, A BIG LIE !
        He blamed Bombs for it. The bombs of Boko Haram except there has been no evidence found of bombs left overs in the guest house. LIARS, DECEIVERS, SCAMMERS which is called of the Synagogue of Satan of All Nations.
        He said it was all of sudden by experts it was Infrared gun mounted upon a Lockheed Martin C130 that made the building collapse.
        It was the Government that did not release the reason why the “strange plane” went over the Hostel building, while it was 1000 feet above it. What a incredible fantasy this man has. Plus some person who jumped the balcony inside SCOAN to prove all this nonsense of how great this false private prophet is.

        Then on top of it Mr False private prophet buys a 60 million dollar plane all for himself and hit entourage on which nobody else will fly then them and also tells us there is no truth to the story except the Trustee Agreement in the USA is with the Church’s name on it as well himself.


        Have I not proven you all now ? What Holy Spirit activities ? LYING, DECEIT AND SCAMMING are not Holy Spirit Activities but of SATAN. Period.

      • U need deliverence because u talk like a two year old child…what is your problem with this man ..If he is what u call him so what .what is it got to do with you. far as I am concerned it’s none of your business whether he does those things that you are accusing with …mind your own sir ..salvation is for an individual so worry about yourself and leave the man alone …I will pray for u because thus what u need …

  4. Remember God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
    So let us test a prophecy in the Old Testament-
    All prophecies must also have a purpose –
    1 Samuel 3-1-15: Eli and Samuel-
    “The boy Samuel ministered before the Lord under Eli. In those days THE WORD OF THE LORD WAS RARE, THERE WERE NOT MANY VISIONS”.
    11 But the Word of God came to Samuel in the night and the Lord said to Samuel: “See, I am about to do something in Israel that will make the ears of everyone who hears about it tingle. 12 At that time I will carry out against Eli everything I spoke against his family—from beginning to end. 13 For I told him that I would judge his family forever because of the sin he knew about; his sons blasphemed God,[a] and he failed to restrain them. 14 Therefore I swore to the house of Eli, ‘The guilt of Eli’s house will never be atoned for by sacrifice or offering.’”
    15 Samuel lay down until morning and then opened the doors of the house of the Lord. He was afraid to tell Eli the vision”
    Did it come true?
    Was it a warning to Eli to sort his relationship out with God?
    was it supposed to lead Eli to God, through repentance?
    Did it bring glory to God?
    Was it brought in love?

    The answer is yes. So this prophecy passed the test.

    More to follow.

  5. Let us take some prophecies from the New Testament-

    Acts 22:6-11-
    6 “Now it happened, as I journeyed and came near Damascus at about noon, suddenly a great light from heaven shone around me. 7 And I fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to me, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?’ 8 So I answered, ‘Who are You, Lord?’ And He said to me, ‘I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting.’
    9 “And those who were with me indeed saw the light and were afraid, but they did not hear the voice of Him who spoke to me. 10 So I said, ‘What shall I do, Lord?’ And the Lord said to me, ‘Arise and go into Damascus and there you will be told all things which are appointed for you to do.’ 11 And since I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of those who were with me, I came into Damascus.
    So later Paul said:
    Acts 26:19
    “So then, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the VISION FROM HEAVEN.

    •Did it come true?
    •Did it provide strength, encouragement and comfort?
    •Did it bring glory to Jesus in repentance?
    •Does it lead us to God?
    •Was it brought in love?

    The answer is yes. So this prophecy passed the test.

    More to follow-

  6. How this vision of the angels at Jesus’ grave must have strengthen, encouraged and comforedt the disciples?
    Look what a purpose it had!
    On the Road to Emmaus
    13 Now that same day two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, about seven miles[a] from Jerusalem. 14 They were talking with each other about everything that had happened. 15 As they talked and discussed these things with each other, Jesus himself came up and walked along with them; 16 but they were kept from recognizing him.
    17 He asked them, “What are you discussing together as you walk along?”
    They stood still, their faces downcast.
    18 One of them, named Cleopas, asked him, “Are you the only one visiting Jerusalem who does not know the things that have happened there in these days?”
    19 “What things?” he asked.
    “About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people. 20 The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him; 21 but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place.
    22 In addition, some of our women amazed us. They went to the tomb early this morning
    23 but didn’t find his body. They came and told us that they had SEEN A VISION OF ANGELS, who said he was alive.
    24 Then some of our companions went to the tomb and found it just as the women had said, but they did not see Jesus.”

    •Did it come true?
    •Did it provide strength, encouragement and comfort?
    •Did it bring glory to Jesus?
    •Does it lead us to God?
    •Was it brought in love?

    The answer is yes. So this Biblical prophecy passed the test.

    And so I can go on and on and on……. example on example out of the Bible.

    Compare the Biblical prophecies to todays!

  7. This man who writes this is confused,he is not well up stires,how does it concern you if he is what you think he is?there are differnt religions out there,why then do you keep hating on tb joshua?get you madness out of here,anyway<keep on hating untill you bust<continue watching him move from glory to glory while you continue living with bitterness for nothing<i pray that God will add more years to you life so that you continue seeing him prosper.

    • Amen to that …I don’t know why ppl are concern about him so much ..As you they are too many churches in the world why him ..That shows that he is doing God work …can we talk more my brother let’s build friendship

      • Tutu and slas. Yes, lets build frendship. Maybe there is a bridge of mis-understandings between Scoan-fans and TB Joshua watch. Lets reveal what the difficulties are in vision. I want to ask you a question, in your expereince TB Joshua is a real Man of God, while on this web-site there are numerous examples of people who became seriously duped by Scoan, mostly for years. You say; TB Joshua is going from Glory to Glory? In spite of their iniquities? In spite of their refusal to face Court, to let justice have its way, in the case of 118 people who died in a illegal building on Scoan-property. What is it, that you hold on to the Scoan-vision, as if they are going fore-ward, while they are not function at all, by Gods way, for a long time .? It is a sincking ship. Being involved in Scoan, is a waist of time. They are not going from Glory to Glory, they are going from failor to failor, and from corruption to corruption. Faith is based on Jezus, not on the fickle ways of a profhet. tohave some future-predictions is no profhesy. to have some words of Knowledge is no profhesy. Why do you discribe TB Joshua as a real man of God, while 60% of what he is doing is; works of the flesch, and works of deceivement by using the anoiting of Jezus in a cultural-traditional bound way, and not in the freedom and reality of The Gospel. You may promote Scoan for a life-time, have some expereinces by the anoiting, some good hope and some deliverances, and stil you will be a member of a church who is full of troubles and trials, that are mens-ways, and not Gods Way. TB Joshua is in troubles for 30 years, not because he is a persequted profhet, but because he makes a disaster of his calling. , one dis-humanizing event after the other. If darkness can not devour darkness, then why is the walk of TB Joshua no more then a man who kicks, beats and shouts and blames, ; ” to get every-one out of his light?””. Maybe the light of TB Joshua has become more dimm, because of his iniquities?

  8. Jesus said;

    False prophets will be able to perform miracles in the last days!

    They will be able to prophecy in the Name of Jesus,
    They will be able to drive out demons in the Name of Jesus
    They will be able to perform many miracles in the Name of Jesus,
    but their fruit of their live will be rotten.

    True and False Prophets

    15 Jesus said; “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

    True and False Disciples

    21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Mathew 7.

    Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you” – Matthew 24:4.

    Be very careful that you do not call Jesus names, in your quest to defend tbj.

  9. You know Scoan-fans? TB Joshua is counting on your faith, your endurance, your hope and your qualities. The faith TB does not has for his own duty. , to be the servant that God wants him to be. You waist your time on this man. The only faith taht will get an answer in your life, is the faith in Christ. TB Joshua , he puls you away from the real source; God, in Him alone we life, and all intermediars, have no single function. A profhet, reveals Gods voice to the people. The plan of God. And Gods plan is much greater then the prediction of a lost air-plain. The key of David is in the own heart, not in a profhet.

  10. If really this writer is a man of God, how can he criticise another man of God. What we know is our God is love so can love criticise? Can holy spirit criticise? Darkness and light will never meet. Prophet TB Joshua is a real man of God.

    • Yes, the Holy Spirit will reveal what is wrong. So if God speaks through donkeys, how much more He will speak through a human being as we all are and not as we are being smeared black as agents of Satan. Let me make clear, if Satan could be destroyed, I will be standing on the forefront with everything that I have to do it.

      But you people think that we are just mere men and that TB Joshua is man of god. What god ? He lies, he deceives, he blames others for his own problems, he bribes, he deflects, he keeps on going on by telling he is innocent, while every human being IS NOT innocent. So is he. He is not innocent. Far from it. He refuses to admit that. Many people who were anointed were still ministring even if they had lost the favour of God on them. You lot answer everything WITH MONEY ! The Bible says, Money answereth all things. You bribe, you pay off people, what favour is that from God ? Is that how you do it ? Pay people is favour of God now ? What does the Scripture say about that ?

      Isaiah 55:1 “Ho! Every one who thirsts, come to the waters; And you who have no money come, buy and eat. Come, buy wine and milk Without money and without cost. 2 “Why do you spend money for what is not bread, And your wages for what does not satisfy? Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good, And delight yourself in abundance.…

      SCOAN bribes, pays people, uses money to look good what is not good at all in the core of it all. That is here the point and the issue and I am going to repeat it again.

      He is not a real man,because a real man does not hide behind his money that he can get to do good. A real man admits he heard it wrong, and if you say he is a man of God, then he needs to say, I heard it wrong, that I build the illegal Hostel, with the none existing building permit, but he does not do that. He blames Boko Haram, Bombs, Infrared guns on a aeroplane and the Lockheed Martin C130 itselves and the government.

      So then if he heard from God, then God would have said, because He is all knowing, that do not build that guesthouse there because it will give your all kinds of trouble. But he still did, he still did not hear as you all claim he is a prophet and clearly his ears were closed. How can it any other way be. Because if you sin, God says, you are a sinner, I can’t work with you, so the consequenses are for yourself. And that is what we have seen. So there is how it is put together. But no, you all say it is not like that. YES IS IT LIKE THAT ! AND I AM FED UP ABOUT YOUR ROTTEN LIES AND DIVERSIONS about it and the diversion of the course of Justice what must have it’s course because you reapt what you had sown ! SO, YOU STOP THAT NOW ! Right now ! And if you are deaf, then you will have me in your face day and night about it.

      • so your idea of faith and Christianity is not being found outside the laws of the ruler of that nation?

  11. Yes, you can according to the Bible:

    You can test ‘prophets’ and expose them if they are false-

    False Teachers…Exposing Them and Naming Them by Name

  12. All you people who are against TB Joshua are anty-christs pretending to quote biblical scripture that you do not even understand,some even bringing up accusations that they manufacture in their kingdom of darkness just to dent the names of the servants of God,you say sex scandals,where they with your mothers or sisters?because its only from them where you can find the truth,you say he duped people,where they yo relatives he duped or u just led it on this same anty-christ site?you say he is running away from the courts,if at all there are serious charges against him,why cant they arrest him?some of you who are commenting rubish here are muslims,are you not awere that yo brothers and sisters also died in a musque colaps as they where praying,some of them are nigerians,why cant you be talking about that instead?

    • @ Slas,

      If you paid attention in this blog and elsewhere I did talk about that about the collapse in Mecca. And I also said: THAT IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU FOLLOW FALSE PRIVATE PROPHETS !

      Not sure if you can read, but clearly you can’t.

      We are no anti-christs or against Jesus Christ, we are against your ROTTEN LIES AND DECEPTION you all keep putting out here. But a steel plate before you head is hard to get rid off if it comes to that.

  13. We love Prophet TB Joshua period. If you had the spirit of God in you, the holy spirit world have confirmed the authenticity of the man of God but your demons will keep holding you in unbelief. enough is enough stop this nosense and insanity of attacking the man of God.

    • You “love” him because you can get something OUT OF HIM nothing else which is: Money, Business, 15 minutes of fame on the internet, acceptation in love bombing, someone that listens to your problems and does nice to you in his office.

      Wrong ! Wrong motivation. WRONG ! Wrong in any way or form.

      You “love” because you can get !

    • Masika,
      That name sounds Kenyan. How many pilgrimages have you made to SCOAN?

      How many do you read of making pilgrimage to see the apostles?

      Why do you worship a man?

  14. The Holy Spirit indeed revealed, ; that TB Joshua is ruiing his own ministery”. Maybe you guys should counsel him a while. If you have no trouble with all the wicked stories about the cause of the building collapse, thne indeed , why should you feel troubled when people write on this site that they are; robbed, duped, seks. abused and seriously mis-treated by TB Joshua? You believe only what your glasses want to see. , and your mind can understand. It is typical for the scoan-fans, to see all the good that is happening on account of TB Joshua and all the bad is suddenly demons or critical people who are in darkness. You make evil look good and good look evil. And why should we discuss any-how, when your “” love for TB Joshua””, is rooted in what you want to believe, and not the reality of facts? Scoan is a dead road, going no-where. And believe me, the expert in blaming, insane attacs, is TB Joshua him-self. But i gues that will be justified by you too. The blind led by a blind.

    • @ Slas,

      You don’t even know who the Devil is even if he would kick your booty or sit upon your head.

      The Bible tells us clear and direct that “like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse does not come to rest” It is written in Proverbs 26:2. This means that foolish curses like you do have no effect at all. Look of all the years have passed by and still nothing has happened to any of us. God does not allow His children <~~~ to be cursed. God is sovereign and wakes over His children that are His’. No one has the power to curse one whom God has decided to bless. God is the only One able to pronounce judgment, not you.

      “Spells and Curses” in the Bible are always described negatively. Deuteronomy 18:10-11 numbers those who cast spells with those who commit other acts ARE “detestable to the LORD” such as child sacrifice, witchcraft, sorcery, divination, or necromancy which is the consulting with the dead.

      In Micah 5:12 says that God will destroy witchcraft and those who cast spells and curses. Revelation 18 describes spells as part of the deception that will be used by the Antichrist and his “great city of Babylon” read further in verse 21-24. Though the end-times deception will be so great that even the elect would be deceived if God did not protect us what is written in Matthew 24:24. And God will utterly destroy Satan, the Antichrist, and all who follow them again for you to read in Revelation chapters 19-20. So apparently you want to be with them about such things.

      None of those above things Jamie is doing, nor do we. You are baseless, silly and laughable to think otherwise, very much deceived, mislead and darkened in your spirit that is leading you here.

      A Follower of Jesus has been born again as a new person in Jesus Christ written for you in 2 Corinthians 5:17, and we are in the constant Presence of the Holy Spirit Who lives within us and under whose protection we exist also written for you in Romans 8:11. We do not need to worry about anyone casting any sort of pagan spell and funny curses on us like you do in every post you write. Voodoo, witchcraft, hexes and Charismatic witchcraft curses have no power over us because they come from Satan which is not clear to you at all but eh, whatever, huh, and we know that “the One who is in you [Christ] is greater than the one [Satan] who is in the world” Including you. 1 John 4:4. You don’t speak for God, nor are you His messenger as far as I can see and discern. God has overcome him and you with your baseless foolishness choice of words and we have been freed to worship God without fear John 8:36 from foolish people like yourself. “The Lord is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life and that of Jamie’s and of all that His children which is US of whom shall I be afraid? ” Again written in Psalm 27:1 so you can acquaint yourself with it.

      But I believe that you are to stupid to get all of the above.


    i am subscribed to this is the same ministry that hosted wiseman Harry’s usa crusade in washington state usa. this ministry also has been taking groups of americans to scoan about 3 times a year, and advertise it on their site here; they also still pray for americans who visit their good news church with annoiting water every month.
    Anyway this is what i received from them today.

    SCOAN Trip September 2015 Overview

    From Hungry Generation Tue, Sep 29, 2015 3:10 pm
    To (my email removed)

    Good Morning!

    On September 17, 2015, 40 people from all over the United States and Canada, packed their bags and flew on a plane to Lagos, Nigeria in Africa to visit the Synagogue Church of All Nations in hopes to meet with the man of god, Prophet T.B. Joshua.

    The moment everyone gathered at gate E9 in Houston, Texas, we could feel the anxiousness and the desperation we all secretly had as we got closer to having the opportunity to step into the arena of liberty in the SCOAN. Trips like these mean something different to every person. Some were there for a sick family member, a personal breakthrough or simply a chance to speak to the prophet. At our arrival we were all sent to our assigned rooms and we patiently waited till the next dawn to see what God had in store for us that week. As Saturday morning approached we were all up early for a warm meal and we headed off to one of several bible studies. Each bible study was ministered by a wise man. They made an hour and a half feel like thirty minutes. The subjects for the bible studies varied from having faith for your challenges to walking in authority with the word of God. Shortly after the first bible study we visited the Prayer Mountain. The Prayer Mountain was a serene place that immediately filled you with peace, even with all of the construction going on, we each had a time of prayer next to a little tree that hovered over the water. It was truly beautiful to spend time in the presence of God while enjoying the wildlife that surrounded us. The purpose for having the Prayer Mountain so exposed to the outside is because the Man of God said he wants people to enjoy nature and God’s creation as we pray and seek him.

    As Sunday rolled around, we sat at the visitors section for the 8am service. Something that we were quick to notice is that the entire service was ran by the disciples. Yes, that means that not even the wisemen were out preaching or praying over the people. It was refreshing to see the disciples being used during the prayer with the Morning Water. Wisemen were there overlooking every step but the disciples were leading the prayers. Many who received the prayer with Morning Water were set free and delivered. Afterwards we rejoiced and danced as the choir played songs of praise to give thanks to God for his goodness.

    Although, we did not see Prophet T.B. Joshua for the service we had a surprise that was waiting for us. Little did we know that Prophet T.B. Joshua himself was going to pray over the visitors in the Mercy Land, an area located outside the SCOAN building. Sunday night he prayed for many visitors in the Mercy Land that were leaving the next day. We had to wait patiently for Monday night to arrive to receive what all of us had been waiting for. As Monday night came, we were ushered to the Mercy Land and we sat under a large white tent waiting for Prophets arrival. All of our hearts were beating fast as we knew that this would be it, the moment we were waiting for. When prophet arrived he shared a small speech and quickly began the prayer line. One by one we were each taken to him so he would lay hands on us. After he prayed for us we went and chose our faith bracelets. We were overwhelmed with joy as we saw each and every person from our USA group be filled with the Holy Spirit and receive their deliverance.
    Little did we know that the celebration was not going to end there. After settling back into our rooms, we received exciting news that the man of God was going to meet our group the following morning. We cried and yelled with jubilee that such opportunity arose itself for us. By the grace of God, Prophet came and spoke to us that Tuesday morning and congratulated us for making the trip there knowing that the possibility of seeing him was slim. He said it took a lot of faith for us to do so and because of our faith our prayers were granted. After he spoke to us, he blessed our group with the chance to choose another faith bracelet, anointed stickers and more Morning Water. He laughed and said that he wanted to spoil us so we would miss him! We can confidently say that we all left SCOAN that day with a large smile on our face and in our hearts. This trip to the Synagogue Church of all Nations changed our lives and whats even better is that the best is STILL yet to come.

    Upcoming Events and Trips

    October 25 – Anointing Water Prayer Line
    November 20-22 – Anniversary Celebration at Hungry Generation
    February 2016 – Trip to SCOAN

    Be Blessed,
    Hungry Generation

    • It also shows that they believe that they nowhere can get any blessing then there in Lagos. Yet still they do all these “things” in their own church apparently. So what is this all about then ? If it is not idol worship, then what is it ?

      Ahhh, they come from Amurica that where the green back is ruling. Good money. 40 x average 1000 dollars or more = 40,000 -50,0000 dollars, hmmm, yeah of course the false private prophet will come out for that in private, because his private air jet needs to be maintained and the church needs to rollin’ on. Beware if you have cat spirit.

      And happy as kids all smiling as were candy handed out to them, faith bracelets, anointed water, etc etc. How sad that they need trinkets to get on with their lives and useless water.

  16. Yeah and when you look at Vladimir Savchuk who is a “preacher” in Hungry generation that his left eye lid is droopy. How come that so many trips done by him this is not sorted out by his idol TB Joshua false private prophet. So much for all those “miracles” in SCOAN like the latest one with a woman with no “Fallopian Tubes” gets a baby. So the god aka Emmanuel (God with us) in SCOAN is unable to fix the drooping eyelid of Vladimir Savchuk which is far more simpler than having a baby without Fallopian tubes missing. No dream occurring with the false private prophet appearing to Vladimir Savchuk ?

    Perhaps they are behind all those posts with the cursing and evil wishes towards TB Joshua Watch. It only shows what their true spirit is like.

    I tried to call the ministry by the phone number and it said it had blocked my phone number. Bwahahahahahaha and that I had to dial * 82 before it and dial the number again which resulted into tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tone of not being available.

    • Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold the phone; they blocked your number?

      I agree with the article posted above, and am not pro-SCOAN, but how many times did you call them?

      • I called them several times. It just gives tu tu tu tu tu tu as reply. As in horn off hook. Or nothing attached.

  17. Malawi: Prophet T.B Joshua Says No Link With ‘Wiseman’ Chi’s Crusade in Malawi-

    “All activities of SCOAN and Emmanuel Tv are directed by the Holy Spirit and therefore communication on any activity to take place either in Malawi or anywhere else will be communicated through the official channels of Emmanuel TV?

    In the same way as the Holy Spirit directs, the Man of God Senior Prophet T B Joshua will visit Malawi?

    The Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN) of Nigeria and the Emmanuel Tv Partners Malawi have distanced themselves from ex-Prophet T.B. Joshua ‘wiseman’ John Chi’s crusade slated for Cctober.

    Chi is scheduled to hold the Christian crusade at Kamuzu stadium in Malawi’s commercial capital from 7 to 8 October 2015.

    After years of dedicated service to God and mentorship from Senior Prophet T.B. Joshua at the SCOAN, ‘wiseman’ Chi relocated to his home country, Cameroon, where he started his own ministry called the Ark of God’s Covenant, with acronym as AGCOM.

    While at the SCOAN, his mentor T.B. Joshua was quoted on several instances as saying wiseman Chi was his favourite protégé.

    He will hold the Blantyre crusade under his ministry and it is not part of the Synagogue Church of All Nations, according to Dr David Boston Kamchacha of Emmanuel Tv Partners Malawi.

  18. African ‘prophets’- the way of the African’ Christians’;

    Prophet Trevor Kautsire of the Miracles Ministry has made a startling revelation that he went to South Africa with his friend to meet a witchdoctor and was told of rituals that he had to perform if he were to become a renowned Prophet.

    Kautsire’s friend in South Africa is Prophet DJ Comfort but he did not mention any name during an interview on Times TV hosted by former president Joyce Banda’s press officer Brian Banda.

    “I was in South Africa and I met the who-is-who of the gospel, what they told me is heart-breaking,” said Kautsire.

    Kautsire said he was told by the witchdoctor to carry out a ritual that involved sacrifices such as the killing of family members or church members.

    “I am speaking this from experience, some Prophets have had to sacrifice their church members to gain fame. You have heard of people dying in places of worship, it is because they are using the people as sacrifices,” said Kautsire, a comment which commentators said he was referring to the Nigerian prophet TB Joshua at whose church over a hundred people died.

    Kautsire further said that it was easy to decipher fake Prophets because they do ‘miracles’ for no important reason

    A miracle is supposed to meet a need, however when a Prophet does a miracle that does not meet any need there is no reason to believe that Prophet,” he said.

    Kautsire, who was deported in United States of America for alleged sexual offence, said that Prophets are using magic, witchcraft and Satanism to perform miracles.

    “There are some who are told to keep a worm and keep feeding it, the worm grows into a snake and when it comes to that stage where it is a snake, it brings them money. The catch is that one should never sleep with their wife but the snake,” claimed Kautsire.

    Kautsire pointed out that that Prophets have turned church into a circus, saying the house of God has become an arena for pathetic theatricals.

    He stated that a prophecy is meant for strengthening, encouraging and comforting.

    Times TV will telecast the programme against this Thursday starting 8:00pm so that people can watch and listen to the chilling revelations from Kautsire.

    In this impressive study Dr. Sundkler traces the development of the Bantu Churches in South Africa which seceded from the Missions or split amongst themselves. The author gives a fascinating account of the life and aspirations of these purely Bantu churches and of their leaders. Dr. Sundkler’s study is concentrated on the contact which took place in these churches between the old heritage of the people and the new message of the Christian Gospel. In the foreword Dr. E.H. Brookes pays tribute to the spirit in which the author has written, “not merely an unbiased scientific spirit, but a spirit which shows true kindness, a positive attitude and a sympathetic understanding of Zulu ideas and aspirations.” Dr. Sundkler’s Bantu Prophets in South Africa is an important and remarkable work on religion in this region.,204,203,200.jpg

  19. Just wonder, this video , by Kautisire is a very clear. I asked this morning the Holy spirit about TB Joshuas gifts. He gave remarkeble answers, and not everything is allowed to be brought in public. As the Holy Spirit said; “” dont pronounce iniquities of demonical services. Reveal only his (TB) dis-courses in My Name. “”. , as ; to blame humanity for sins, while the weight was on Jezus Christ.””. TB Joshua is a master-deceiver, and very dangerous.

  20. @jesse
    i finish reading your comment,all i have discovered is that you need Jesus inn your life,like real deliverance.thats my advice to you.

    • @ Slas,

      Hold your horses, Slas, just read this, fresh from the press, so you can understand your own need of Jesus in your life. That’s my advice to you.

      Quote from the Coalition of Civil Society Organisations (CCSOs)

      It also alleged that the contractor/engineer did not obtain the necessary permits to erect the building.

      The coroner’s court, therefore, recommended the prosecution of the Contractor/Engineer (Hardrock Construction Company) and The SCOAN for negligence and failure to obtain necessary permits and approvals.

      The group explained further that its primary concern is the insertion of what it called nebulous and far-reaching clause: “fitness for habitation test for all buildings within SCOAN”.

      It argued that the prescription is aimed, not only to play to the gallery, “but a shameless attempt by the regulatory authority to abdicate it’s responsibility and shift the blame on Pastor T.B. Joshua and the church”.

      What do they not understand ? If you not acquire a building permit, why build illegally ? Don’t tell us that TB Joshua does not know anything about this !!!

      Which means that he all along knew that it was illegal. So that is not sin right ? What is this organisation thinking ? That so called false private prophets can be doing anything they want in the Name of God ? Or hide behind their charity prerogative ?

      Then on top when a prophet or people claim he hears from God on a daily basis who come that False Private prophet did not hear for many years that illegal building and having no building permit is wrong and in such a way that anyone who would do so will be exposed to legislation to be applied.

      Since the false private prophet and his fanatic cursing followers who are pointing out that it was wrong to do so of what they did, then we all should agree that the investigative matters be applied and when found guilty applied to what the Law prescribes.

      What is wrong with them ? No person is above the law, no false private prophet either. Keep trying to deceive and divert the course of Justice shows how guilty they are in their application of their fake christian faith and it’s normalcy.

      Repentance means that the false private prophet is and was NOT hearing from God in the first place and is not infallable at all of what he says as the followers and staff of SCOAN claims he is. Clearly God did not speak to TB Joshua when he embarked on a spree of illegal building(s) with contractors who were very willing to participate in jumping the gravy train for filty lucre to expand their corrupt bank accounts and minds.

      When will the False Private Prophet come clean ? It’s him who has to come with clean hands, not those that are investigating and found it wanting.

  21. Collapse: Lagos government trying to shift its indictment on TB Joshua, SCOAN – Group
    By Wale Odunsi on October 3, 2015
    Coalition of Civil Society Organisations (CCSOs) has accused the Lagos State Government of trying to subvert justice in the ongoing trial involving Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN) and the state.
    In a press statement made available to DAILY POST on Saturday, the group’s National Publicity Secretary, Comrade Adams Sanusi, drew the attention of Nigerians “to a grand attempt by the Ministry of Environment of Lagos State to arm twist SCOAN and Pastor T.B. Joshua into submission and accept guilt of the collapsed building belonging to the Synagogue Church of all Nations in Lagos.”
    It recalled that on 12th September, 2014, one of the hostels within the precinct of the church claimed lives of many South Africans.
    Subsequently, the Lagos State Government set up a coroner inquest to ascertain the immediate and remote causes of the collapse and proffer recommendations.
    The Coroner’s inquest, led by Chief Magistrate Oyetade Komolafe, after 10 months, released the report of the panel on July 8, 2015 in which it was recommended that the building collapse was as a result of structural/architectural deficit flowing from the use of substandard materials.
    It also alleged that the contractor/engineer did not obtain the necessary permits to erect the building.
    The coroner’s court, therefore, recommended the prosecution of the Contractor/Engineer (Hardrock Construction Company) and The SCOAN for negligence and failure to obtain necessary permits and approvals
    The group explained further that its primary concern is the insertion of what it called nebulous and far-reaching clause: “fitness for habitation test for all buildings within SCOAN”.

    It argued that the prescription is aimed, not only to play to the gallery, “but a shameless attempt by the regulatory authority to abdicate it’s responsibility and shift the blame on Pastor T.B. Joshua and the church”.

    “It is our considered opinion that the recommendation to conduct fitness test for the structures within The SCOAN is tantamount to working from the answer to the question.

    “While we are not opposed to genuine investigative process or sincere inquiry, we are, however, strongly opposed to any sinister intention to give a dog a bad name in order to hang it.
    “It is not by accident that the period of the unfortunate incident coincided with a sustained media campaign of calumny against the church and the General Overseer”, the statement added.
    The group stated that while it wants justice served, such must be served on a clean slate, saying, “he who must come to equity must come with clean hands”.

    It urged the National Assembly to wade into the matter and prevent the looming miscarriage of justice; saying, “the modern trend in global practices in criminal and civil justice administration is tilted towards correctional or redemptive measure as opposed to punitive.”

  22. To you that is disobedient to God Almighty. The days of silencing God’s lambs and muzzling the mouth of His Bride are OVER! No more pulling the pathetic “clergy” card and I know that the church emperor has no clothes on.

    The modern-day false private prophets and co-pastors can no longer hide behind their pulpits, undeserved titles, false authority, & scare tactics.

    Welcome to the REAL Kingdom of God where the REAL JESUS uses REAL disciples to proclaim the truth without partiality for “the clergy”, to REBUKE them.

    God can use WHOEVER HE WANTS to rebuke a wicked leader. He even used a donkey on an occasion. Yet He wouldn’t use Spirit-filled Believers who aren’t considered “clergy”? LIES. . . .

    Please catch this alright. The New Testament Greek word for “clergy” is “kleros.” Peter the apostle used this word to refer to the ENTIRE BODY OF CHRIST which is God’s heritage in 1 Peter 5:3.
    Ironically, this verse warns elders NOT to lord it over GOD’S HERITAGE which they think is THE CLERGY, THE FLOCK OF GOD Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to the flock.

    Yet they have made leaders-only into the “clergy” and belittled and humiliate the rest of the body into a subservient lower class called “laity/laymen” as if we are stupid and then institutionalized this schism as a right to do so. In Scripture, the word “laity” (laos) also refers toall Believers YES THAT’S ME and not a distinct class within the body of Christ.

    So therefore, find the False Private Prophet and bring him to Justice and show the world that God is not Mocked but wants His Flock to SPEAK Righteousness and Truth when a False Private Prophet is hiding to escape the course of Justice.

    No prophet should hide behind the fact when you build illegal buildings with no permit that you are guilty like everyone else is who does so. No exemption because you deceive your followers and organisations that you are untouchable. You hide, you are guilty.









    • Jesse,
      Drop these silly and nonsensical rants
      In one line you rebuke TB Joshua and in the other you call upon Angels to rebuke him.
      Grow up

      • JESSE is scripturally right to say whether once, twice or thrice:- that the angel(s) of the Lord rebuke rebellious agents of darkness be they human or demon as it is written:

        Jude 1:9…Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil [demon] he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord REBUKE thee…

        Numbers 22:31-33…Then the LORD opened the eyes of Balaam [false prophet], and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face. And the angel of the LORD said unto [REBUKED] him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times? behold, I went out to withstand thee, because thy way is PERVERSE before me: And the ass saw me, and turned from me these three times: unless she had turned from me, surely now also I had slain thee, and saved her alive.

        NOTE: let us be watchful lest we become GUILTY of gossiping & backbiting while thinking we are trying expose the agents of darkness as two evils don’t make a right.

        It’s just another trick of the wicked one…if we want to effectually correct a “ranting” believer or expose evil workers of darkness, we must not do it in error but from the stand point of the RIGHT knowledge of the Word of God.

        As it is written:

        … Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God…Matthew 22:29!

        …Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings [gossiping & backbiting]: for they will increase unto more ungodliness…2 Timothy 2:15-16!

      • Thanks Undertaker for supporting as is.

        Vooke, please if it is not your “cup of tea” then let it be. If you feel, I am not worthy enough to do so, it should not bother you. Mind you, I have found you many times in the past sitting on the fence about TB Joshua. I have mentioned it a few times didn’t I ? Only recently you have been more direct about matters, which is good. I want to encourage you to be more like that.

        TB Joshua does not want to change, just in the same Sepp Blatter of Fifa wants to continue with his ways to wipe out his bad ways and cover ups. Stretching it, stretching it, delaying, twirling around, put things in place for own self, cover up and wipe away.

        Vooke you know, only God can wipe this away and only through the Blood of Jesus Christ and by true repentance before the world that he was wrong to do what he did. This is expected from us, so it is expected from him and his followers. It should be clear to you that he does not want to do this. Then someone needs to rebuke him openly. Whether it’s me or a prophet it does not matter.

        Many fallen ministers go away for a while and are put back by others in the saddle again to do exactly the same as they did before. Whether we speak about Jim Bakker, Jimmy Schwaggart, Robert Tilton, Peter Popoff, Gilbert Deya, Tony Alamo, Mike Warnke, TB Joshua, they all need to pack in and go. No more of them, no more them self-inventing the Christian Wheel, because they are at it again same ways as before.

        Just as there are better people to lead a country and are chosen by the people as in King Saul, so there are better people to do God’s work. TB Joshua does not show any repentance nor do his people they continue to lie and prop up and cover up. That’s not the way it must be. Let their mantles go to someone who is not like as they are. Money milk cows should not be the way things are going. What’s done is done. Make way for someone else.

  23. “In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways,

    but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son (Jesus Christ),

    whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom also he made the universe” – Hebrews 1:1-2

  24. “Yet the LORD testified against Israel and against Judah by all the prophets and by all the seers saying; “Turn ye from your evil ways and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets” – 2 Kings 17:13.

    JONATHAN CAHN – Shemitah UPDATE 1st October -2015

    • Yes, Jamie, that’s exactly how it supposed to be. REPENTANCE, SURRENDER, RECEIVING AND HEALING and being BAPTIZED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT and Speak in Tongues.

  25. Do not forget:

    Jesus said; “ Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, BAPTIZING them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you” – Mathew 28:19-20.

    Peter replied, “Repent and be BAPTIZED every one of you, in the Name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” – Acts 2:38.

    “Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his” – Romans6:3-5.

    The Way;

  26. Hi Jesse,

    . . . .Jesse says: October 9, 2015 at 11:30 pm . . .

    You gave me a good laugh, because this is exactly how I feel. Spot on – ha, ha . . .

    I am tired of the evil in this world and rubbish ‘prophecies’ going around, meaning and achieving nothing for God!

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