Another Lagos building collapse puts TB Joshua back in the spotlight

10q18nLast week a building collapsed in an upmarket area in Lagos, killing 31 people. Within two days, the managing director of the residential estate and his contractor were arrested and brought before a magistrate (source). Furthermore, Governor Ambode had ordered all Directors of Lekki Worldwide Estate Limited to submit themselves to the Lagos State Commissioner of Police, Mr. Fatai Owoseni, within the next twenty four hours or face immediate arrest (source).

This, of course is in stark contrast to the way Lagos State Government have dealt with the far deadlier collapse at SCOAN. Neither the contractor or the managing director general overseer have been arrested, despite constantly ignoring court demands.

This blatant injustice has not gone unnoticed, hundreds of Nigerians have been expressing their displeasure and taking to social media to call for TB Joshua’s arrest. Broadcaster “Daddy Freeze” has been leading the campaign, he wrote the following:

I have no qualms seeing a young man who committed a crime pay for that crime. Life is sad, before Richard came along, you could not dream of buying a house in LEKKI for 20million naira, his dream was to make choice housing affordable and available. Somewhere down the line mistakes were made and lives were lost! And yes I agree…… Someone must pay!

Now my questions;
Why is he in handcuffs and remanded in prison when that ‘prophet’ whose building collapsed and killed more people than Ebola, Lassa fever and this alleged ‘LEKKI gardens’ put together is walking free??? Why is that prophet not in handcuffs too??? It was even alleged, that he didn’t show up in court the last time the courts sat. Is this true??? If it is true, then why is Richard ‘remanded’ in prison while Mr prophet ‘comes from home’???

Is there a special court for ‘prophets’ or do we have special ‘laws’ for them???

Is our government afraid of prophets???

Are the people who lost their lives in the Church less valuable than the people who lost their lives in the LEKKI Gardens saga?

My humble advice: Richard should be released to go home and attend hearings from home like the ‘prophet’. Or the ‘prophet’ should be picked up, handcuffed and locked in the same cell with Richard while he attends trial!

Or does the change we voted for include turning Nigeria into the African version of George Orwell’s ‘Animal Farm’, where “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others?”

I might not know law and justice, but I definitely know injustice!

I appeal to everyone to lend their voice to this and ensure we have ‘JUSTICE FOR ALL’
Please retweet this hashtag untill we are heard! #Justice4All

This could be a turning point in the whole legal process, what a shame it took the unnecessary deaths of more people before any fuss was made.

42 thoughts on “Another Lagos building collapse puts TB Joshua back in the spotlight

    • @ Em,

      You are wrong, it’s not the Hand of God, it’s the Lawyers guild, the corrupt establishment of Nigeria that favours him and want to milk out his venture as well the sacks of money that are being thrown around to benefit all. So that needs to be tended to. You can’t just kill off your milk cow can you now ?

      Why don’t you try to do the same thing to go out and build some building illegally without building permit and when the people come and you know inside information which you will say after the disaster has taken place and see how you will fare with only 15,000 Naira in your bank account. Even though you give to all the neighbours and friends a little here and there. Because that is how you have to see it. You think you could hire in some high level lawyers to defend yourself ? Can you ? Would you ?

  1. Look at his good causes and how many people he helped. How many people have you helped? This was not a deliberate act. You ought to be ashamed of your accusations.

    • Hey Hyacinth.

      Leviticus 19:15 “‘Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.

      You are favouring someone that chose to build the collapsed hostel, no matter who did it. And he claims to be a prophet and certainly did not hear God’s Voice for 11 years about it until it was too late. So he says and other say.

      So it is ok then to “know things ahead” and do nothing ? You find that palatable ? I know loads of these kinds of prophets. They always come as mustard after the meal and claim things they said it but only pray and think that is the only way to counteract it. So eh, please add up how many plane predictions have been prevented with the SCOAN prayers ? Or Tsunamis ? Or the deaths of celebrities ? And how about earthquakes ? And how Boko Haram kept festering after he said they would be thing of the past in 2012, 2013 ? How about Racine getting healed of his jam jar glasses by a slapfest, chest punch and step toe treatment and above all, since all problems are demonic and have demonic back ground I would love to see a 45 minute intense Lucifer interrogation with a high level HD 1080p camera close up of him with a mic shoved in his face and posted on every video channel available online ? And how about a Punch, Maravi Post and Naija article extensively written out ? Whaddya say ?

    • He is not my life. I am telling you. I do many things without him being involved into my life in any form. I just wished you could admit that a pastor that loses 120 people from his flock is actually a disgusting man and no pastor whatsoever. So for me as a person he can step down as general overseer and go translate bibles in Mongolia and North Korea and win Kim Jung Un to the Kingdom of God in not keep throwing tantrums to the world. But the cowardly false private prophet would never use his private jet for that ever. He rather goes to Peru work in a stadium to collect money for his venture in Nigeria because that is the only reason he is off the hook by the High Court Judge. But alas, you can keep lying to us but you can’t to God and the trouble here is that God’s gifts are irrevocable and that is the only reason why he still can go on. I would rather would ask God to stop gifts operating when you start killing His people off with neglect and negligence, because there is no excuse when you are given people in your care and have let them treat as they have been through while rotting in the mortuaries. There are even people unidentified left over in which not even the false private prophet knows who they are. That’s how busy he was. Busy to attend other matters. Aka not available. And when asked, he is on assignment. Of what ? Gathering money to give away to soothe his seared with an iron consciousness and think that is the antidote to manslaughter with negligence ? And then laughing and jesting in the church and telling new inculcating brainwash theories to his followers and donors.

  2. With reference to the baseless, odderly ridiculous and perforated argument that is descriptive of your article, posted March 12, 2016, in which you attempt to mislead the general public by comparing the two incidents, it is paramount to first educate you by referring you to a statement in part that the Punch published on March 9, 2016 that “Based on preliminary reports and investigation, it was discovered that the collapsed building was served contravention notice for exceeding the approved floors and thereafter sealed by the Lagos State Building Control Agency” (Source: http://www.punchng.com/building-collapse-lagos-indicts-promoters-of-lekki-gardens/ Last accessed: March 13, 2016). Commonsense should tell that comparing these two incidents is utterly pointless. The circumstances surrounding these two tragedies need clear examination. What happened with the five-storey structure located at the end of Kushenla Road, Chisco bus stop, Ikate Elegushi, Lekki in Lagos was foreseeable and therefore avoidable. This explains the reason why the government issued an earlier warning to the owners.

    Reliable reports reaching the state government revealed that “in a brazen act of defiance and impunity, the owners of the building, Messrs Lekki Worldwide Estate Limited, the promoters of Lekki Gardens, criminally unsealed the property and continued building beyond the approved floors until the unfortunate incident of Tuesday which has led to loss of lives” (Source: http://www.punchng.com/building-collapse-lagos-indicts-promoters-of-lekki-gardens/ Last accessed: March 13, 2016). According to the Daily Post, a witness (site worker) by name Mr. Sunday Agba, lamented over how Lekki Gardens filled water-logged lands and started building almost immediately (Source: http://dailypost.ng/2016/03/08/death-toll-rises-in-lekki-gardens-building-collapse-photos/ Last accessed: March 13, 2016). As a subsequent development, there must be a fundamental premise on which “The prosecution had applied with a supporting 19 paragraph affidavit…” for the two contractors to be remanded at the State CID (Source: http://saharareporters.com/2016/03/11/ceo-and-contractor-responsible-lekki-building-collapse-remanded-police-custory Last accessed: March 13, 2016).

    The contractors and the developers deliberately ignored the authority’s instructions, which culminated in the catastrophe.

    • A lot of what you said about Lekki Gardens is very true. They should never have unsealed the property. They should have paid attention to their contravention notice.

      As far as comparison goes, both of the collapsed buildings had more floors than permitted; the coroner’s report (http://www.scribd.com/doc/271900604/SCOAN-Coroner-Judgement-8-Jul-2015) says that the SCOAN building was approved for 5 floors, but had 3 extra and an Engine Room. (section 6.00) Why they weren’t served for that is beyond me.

    • Even in the worst lie there is truth. But the lie here is, your idol loves money to answer all his problems. Without it, he is nothing. He only can slapfest, punch chest and step toe, interrogate non existing demons and carrying rice bags on his head and handing out bibles. Oh yeah and cut and paste prophecies to his advantage, which now have graduated on a piece of paper for everybody. They all pray over it but still everybody dies or get in more trouble.

  3. This is a disgrace to the nigerian judicial system. This is the most despicable injustice I have seen so far in my entire life. The whole world has been petrified and disgusted the way and manner the Lagos state government has handled the unfortunate incident that happened in the premises of the synagogue church of all nations where 115 innocent people perished because of a deliberate act of negligence on the part of TB Joshua. This is the reason why nigeria has become a laughing stock in international community. The level of injustice and lawlessness by rich nigerians has plunged nigeria lives into a state of worthlessness. Why has TB Joshua not been arrested? There is absolutely no difference between the incidence of TB Joshua and the one at Lekki. Let’s assume accidents do happen, but TB Joshua’s refusal to obtain the legal permit to continue with such dangerous construction by itself is a serious criminal offense. Even when he was advised by a member of the building management committee to desist from such dangerous suicidal construction until approval is given, TB Joshua vehemently disregarded the advice. The corona did not have any personal problem with TB Joshua but for the fact that he did not obtain a building permit, they recommended his indictment. That is the law of the land under which everyone must be subjected. It does not mean because TB Joshua is giving scholarships, foods, cars, to the less privileged, or preaching the bible, he should therefore be allowed to treat the law with absolute impunity. This has to do with the breach of the law. I have been a christian for more than 40 years and have read the bible. The scripture has made it very clear that all christians must be subject to the law of the land. Why has TB Joshua so despicably rubbished the law? Is he truely a christian? If he is, let him learn from the lives of the apostles. What offense did Jeremiah, John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, Paul, Silas, Peter, commit before they were arrested and thrown in jail? Did they submit themselves to the law or they resisted? Of course they humbly submitted themselves. Apart from TB Joshua’s refusal to obtain a building permit, he has since committed more serious offenses by refusing to honor the order of the court. That is contempt of the court and that by itself carries jail term. If the human court of Law would not seek justice for those 115 innocent lives that perished in that church, the almighty true God will avenge their death. Its a matter of time.

    • @ Evangelist Isaac, Ivbaze,

      I agree with your stance and it is a disgrace how this High Court Judge has done. It is likely that his bank accounts somewhere has expanded exponentially with US dollars, Swiss francs, or UK Pounds etc. etc. But what is worse is the both sides of his mouth driveling false private prophet has done over the last 2 years. Nothing than obstructing in favour of himself and his family. No Hand of God was upon him than his SCOAN American dollar account and from the business men that profited from it all as well other investors. Collectively they never wanted to give up on this venture that was concocted long time ago to go down this route and spread with religious drivel that is not working when you would isolate this person in a isolation cell without access to anyone. You would see that he would be incapable doing anything. But because so many were involved they collectively put their worldly abilities together in using the loopholes in the Law for those who have deep pockets with a religious sauce on top of it.

      I wonder if they can look you straight in the eyes and tell you the same with all eyes from the victims upon them. Let’s wait until 1st April 2016 and see what has come from his everlasting on his hands sitting abilities.

  4. They are buddies, that is why TB Joshua gets away with murder.

    Past or present rulers – What does it matter who is ruling.

    All are at the top already and are riding – fame and fortune.

    Why do they have to listen to the Word of God.

  5. Not everyone case is the same. Courts do not act like you TB Joshua watchers who are looking for fast sentence. It is obvious that authors of TB Joshua watch blog look for personal vengeance. They usurp even the position to be the Judge of apmarket area collapse. You want to be the Judge of Nigeria President as well posting such pictures. It shows how incompetent you are. You look for fast sentence for everyone. Poor TB Joshua Watchers. Why are you so pitiful TB Joshua watchers?

    • @SimpleVoice The only person usurping their position to be judge is TB Joshua. All we’re asking for is that the trial goes ahead unhindered so that the families can finally close the book on this tragic event. TB Joshua has been delaying and disrupting this process at every opportunity. If he is innocent as he (and you) claim, why can’t he trust the legal process and ultimately trust God that the truth will come out through the legal process and justice will be done?

      • @SimpleVoice: if we were complaining that the judge was taking too long to decide the case after a full and fair trial, that statement would be accurate.

        No, TB Joshua and his team have been summoned by the court.

        The coroner’s report in 2014 lists him as the only person who had not testified when asked.

        I’m sorry, but this is unreasonable, man.
        They are going to have to deal with this case sooner or later.
        Every month that this case has been unreasonably stalled has already worsened the situation for SCOAN and its leader, and they hope to postpone it indefinitely and focus on public relations. Because of this sustained non-compliance, if they actually decide to finally comply, they are not going to have a good time in the trial.

        I am not a prophet, but I suggest that any members of TB Joshua’s legal team here start preparing a good answer for why it took so long to get him in court.

    • @ SimpleVoice,

      It has nothing to do with personal vengeance.

      It has to do that favour is given to somebody who runs an economy for others which is unfair to the poor and underprivileged who did not have such a chance to do so.

      Then this legal wrangling. These double standards. The speaking on both sides of their mouth and the dramatizing of the situation of someone who played Job on stage in order to lick TB Joshua’s boots by it. The bringing in of a soprano that was on the world stage in Andre Rieu and other singing members of the establishment to dramatize it more for the outside world to feel pity for them while it is him and his staff who decided to do all this by choice.

      No parent would ever allow a child in good parenting application allow a child to compensate for his wickedness choices without proper correction one way or another or even a certain type of punishment. Much more this is in society no matter how great you are. Not even God does this. Is it not written ?

      Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

      Does it then say, oh the child should then compensate all matters of bad choices with a big wad of money of well doing to what his choices caused ?

      Does it then say that bad choices should be given out with financial means of compensation, yes the World does this all the time, but as a standard it is not so. Biased as it is and corrupt in application is as such by doing this a slap on the wrist and a personal handshake ?????

      Please tell which Court Case is so with multiple deaths by gross negligence that the judgment is freedom for the perpetrator and money as a band aid for the victims ?

      Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do NO unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt NOT respect the person of the poor, NOR honour the person of the MIGHTY: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

      This High Court Judge is unrighteous in judgement.

      And even try to come up with, You shall love your neighbour as yourself. When love has or was depleted by being corrupt and unfair in judgment.

      No matter if the Coroners report was in another state, it really would not make any difference whatsoever and saying to yourself oh let’s forget about the past and look on the price which is before us. As Abel’s blood is crying to the heavens so is the blood crying to the heavens of injustice of these victims. What revenge are you talking about ?

      You can do all the nice things in the world, but when you are not admitting your wrong EVERYTHING you do then is TAINTED ! Everything.

      TB Joshua you made the choice to let this building erected on New Land. You did and your staff and you have passed it off to others and you know as well the staff that God never told you to do this. Then you all alone are guilty of your decisions. Including those who have done everything to stop it. That means the lawyers appointed by SCOAN etc etc.

      No personal vengeance there. But justice by default. Nigeria and it’s establisment has failed totally and completely to set that standard.

  6. The Word of God has judged TB Joshua already.

    “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a Word in My Name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even-THAT PROPHET SHALL DIE.
    And if You say in YOUR heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?’
    When a prophet speaks in the Name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken, but the prophet has spoken it presumptuously (arrogantly): you shall not be afraid of him” – Deuteronomy 18:20-22

    48 Jesus said; “He who rejects Me and does not receive My Words, has one who judges him; the Word I spoke is what will Judge him at the last day – John 12:48

  7. Very selective justice is being meted out. Coroner’s report came out in July 2015. Then followed all these frivolities which are now dragging the case for 9months which soon will turn into 1yr

    • Selective judgment indeed, if not set up deliberately and on purpose to divert all with sleight of hand. While they kept building and building again. Only a Nigerian evil establisment does as such. Play one card one way and then bring out a card from another stack to make things favour for all. This greed for money from the West, Asia and Austrilasia is more important than lives. Now wonder their country is in turmoil from all sides.

      The lies about Boko Haram under control and deceiving the world all is getting better while at the same time being reported the following.

      “CAMEROON Cameroon said raids on Boko Haram strongholds along the country’s northern border with Nigeria are taking a huge toll, with hospitals in the area overwhelmed by victims wounded during insurgency efforts, officials said.” Voice of America

      And then the Daily Beast. The Nigerian War That’s Slaughtered More People Than Boko Haram. The fight between Muslim herdsmen and mostly Christian farmers has killed more than 60,000 people in the last 15 years. It’s a situation jihadists mean to exploit.

      Or the New York Times.

      Boko Haram’s continuing raids of terror have turned a swath of territory in the Sahel region in northern Africa into a virtual wasteland, barren of crops and livestock, pocked by ghost villages lying in ruin.

      The continual lies and corruption that Nigeria is producing, this lying demon that is inhabiting many to picture themselves better as they really are is showing all the time from every angle.

      The United Nations says more than 50,000 people in northern Nigeria are in imminent danger of starvation, cut off from help in areas where it is too dangerous for aid workers to travel, and that some 1.4 million people in the region lack sufficient food supplies.

      And here is TB Joshua extracting monies from his donors and business men to attach his name to his widen himself more and more with slapfest, punch chest and step toe techniques as well demon interrogations of non existence. And the people go home the same way as the came. Numerous black churches have been investigated about it but they still keep it up because of the steady stream of money. But the figures show different above of what really is going on.

      “The 7th Army Division has cleared Boko Haram camps killing several terrorists in the last two days, according to the Army spokesman SK Usman. He stated in a press release that in the duration of their operations vehicles, weapons, and other equipment were recovered.”

      What you will see is a rusty car, one AK-47 and some stuff. Which they call clearing Boko Haram camps.

      The true facts are:

      Boko Haram: Nigerian agency laments increase in cocaine, illicit drug use in IDP camps according to the Premium Times.

      TB Joshua is a liar and deceiver, he told us that Boko Haram is just a FEW disturbed individuals as well it will be defeated by the end of 2012, 2013 and what ever. And the Chibok girls will be “released immediately”. Why is nobody asking about this ? Why not confront him and ask what are you on about Mr prophet ?

      • Let’s look at the Chibok girls and the facts.

        Nigeria: Day 700 – Chibok Girls, Girl Kidnappings, Underage Marriages and a Remedy as in AllAfrica.

        Day 700, oh certainly they have released the girls “immediately”. So Mr prophet and lie fabricator why are you still spouting other nonsense on Youtube and in the News Media ? Immediately is: straight away, at once, right away, right now, instantly, now, directly, promptly, forthwith, this/that (very) minute, this/that instant, there and then, here and now, in a flash, without delay, without hesitation, without further ado, post-haste.

        So i is clear, Oh, thou false private prophet you were an is a liar. Will you comply ? Will all the others comply who defend this serial liar.

        “Seven hundred days ago, in Borno State, Nigeria was a school in Chibok, in the Chibok School, there were hundreds of girls in their dormitories. From the dormitories, over 200 girls were abducted. The immediate response by the Goodluck Jonathan Administration was nothing short of lacking pre-emptiveness and the initial doubtful official stance.”

        So why did you not jump in and had in one hand your “anointing water, morning water”, “special crafted wristband” as well in the other hand your bible and went over there to release them yourself since you know everything ?

        NIGERIAN AIR FORCE DENIES REPORTS IT HAS LOCATED KIDNAPPED CHIBOK GIRLS according to News week. So one week goes by and they know where they are, but next time they don’t. So Oh thou great sage of a TB Joshua why don’t you tell them since you have a nack to ask God and He will tell you you abominable rubbish predictor that let people die or let your audio/video room burn down to the ground even if you claim you know it.

        You might be able to hypnotize your followers and the rest of the world and Africa, but unfortunately I am the wrong person regarding that.

  8. More judgment from the Word of God-

    TB Joshua has been found false and lying on about every front in his life – what about him making money out of God’s Word?

    The Apostle Paul said to the Corinthians; “For we are not like the many who market God’s message for profit. On the contrary, we speak with sincerity in Christ, as from God and before God” – 2 Corinthians 2:17

    From rags …..

  9. God’s Judgment:

    “But if you will not obey these Words, I swear by Myself,” declares the LORD, “that this house will become a desolation.”‘”-Jeremiah 22:5

    “Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, ‘You yourselves have seen all the calamity that I have brought on scoan and behold, this day they are in ruins and no one lives in the collapsed building, because of their wickedness which they committed so as to provoke Me to anger …Jeremiah 44:2-6

    “I, the LORD, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself and spreading out the earth all alone, Causing the omens of boasters to fail, Making fools out of diviners, Causing wise men to draw back and turning their knowledge into foolishness…Isaiah 44:24-26

  10. It’s funny that some SCOANITES read divine victory in the fact TB Joshua is not rotting in jail yet. ‘victory’,if at all, is being declared ‘not guilty’, TB Joshua is least interested in this. Either he is guilty or he has no faith that God will vindicate him

    • @ Vooke,

      I have a personal question. This “subjective” and “objective” evidence discussion you did the other day in your posts is it your own knowledge ?

      • @ Vooke,

        Why jog your method of memory, while you know exactly how to do mine.

        Just tell me if it is your personal information about “subjective” and “objective” proof of evidence in your posts you wrote recently ?

      • @Jesse,
        I have neither the time nor the need to second guess you. If you can’t be clear enough, please and kindly keep your questions to yourself. Thank you

        Stay blessed

      • @ Vooke,

        I am very clear and concise, you just have chosen for “selective memory” application.

        In “A” study found that repressing these memories for long enough can lead to us erasing them completely as you pretend you have done to my question as is. You are telling me that that is now happening to you ?

        With Using EEG scans, scientists noted the parts of volunteers’ brains (you in this case) which became active when actively and deliberately trying to forget something. With the emphasis of “actively” and “deliberately”.

        They were also able to pinpoint the exact moment a memory is ‘forgotten’, (a few posts ago) and claim that long-term suppression of a memory is a sure fire way of permanently erasing it. And you know that is not the cause when I asked you the question of “objective” and “subjective” evidence regarding a matter.

        The volunteers were trained to forget neutral information in a controlled laboratory environment. Training to forget a traumatic event would be more complex.

        Your former posts regarding the topics you used for TB Joshua is NOT a Freemason are loaded with “objective” and “subjective” arguments relating to that. But when it comes to my posts, you will go back 2 years or more if necessary to copy and quote them to do your own games of chess to do everything to put somebody check mate. Because in your argument you proved absolutely nothing that TB Joshua is NOT a Freemason by his hand gestures brought up by Just Wonder.

        You actively fought it in all the power of your cognitive abilities and to the death with that “objective” and “subjective” evidence statements and arguments.

        You personally argued them away with “objective” and subjective” evidence you have read somewhere to put weight into your own argument against it. And now you try to turn the tables as if your suffer all of a sudden have a bout of amnesia and memory loss.

        You never have time for anything when it comes out for your own agenda to be on the forefront when it comes to defend TB Joshua but actively speak from both sides of your posts mouth as TB Joshua is doing all the time.

        Again, let me repeat to again, is the “objective” and “subjective” statements part of your own learning curve in a place of education, college or organisation or did you find it somewhere online from someone else and used it to make an argument for yourself being in your own imaginary winning league so you could put weight into your debate in the posts you put online here ? And…..You know where you put those posts and you know where they are and when you wrote them.

        Why do you want me to quote them for you, while you know very well you wrote them here and possibly elsewhere in other posts online.

        Why divert the cause of the question asked by me by pretending you don’t know ?

        2 Million Facebook followers for TB Joshua, while Ronaldo has over a 100 million and even a snot nose such a Justin Bieber has 75 million.

        Why revel in an Atheists’ invention of Mark Zuckerberg to make yourself famous with demon interrogations of 30 minutes. What a sad perception of one selves.

        Hey Vooke,

        Why not “bless me” with something substantial by a proper expression to bless me with, not something that has no intrinsic value for me that has nothing in there by your general blessing. I am not looking for a general blessing but by a specific one that would be applicable.

        Why not send me 200 million dollars to bless me with, because this stupid world is only revolving around money and that attached to people to make them noticed in the public eye. Because otherwise you won’t count in people’s eyes or the establishments.

      • Thank you @tbjoshuawatch,
        I will give this a last jab and let it lie.

        @Jesse, look at this statement you made;

        ‘…Because in your argument you proved absolutely nothing that TB Joshua is NOT a Freemason by his hand gestures brought up by Just Wonder…’

        The person who makes a claim is the one with the burden of proof. You can’t make a claim and then challenge us to prove it WRONG. You make a claim, and give evidence which is then examined for its veracity. Even if the claim is correct but the evidence is bogus, any reasonable person would dismiss the claim on the basis of the bogus evidence. We follow evidence!

        In this case, @Just Wonder made a specific claim that TB Joshua was a Freemason. She also gave some ‘evidence’ to this effect by way of ‘hand gestures’ and signs.

        I did not say/claim that TB Joshua is NOT a Freemason,and so I did not need to give any evidence to back my statement. What I did was to critique @Just Wonder’s evidence. The evidence is hopelessly bogus so it can’t support her claim. @General and @tbjoshuawatch agreed with my assessment.

        I went further and requested @Just Wonder to cease from propagating a baseless claim that TB Joshua is a Mason on this site,,because this tarnishes the name of this blog. When visitors look at the claims made here backed by sound evidence, like for instance deceptively edited videos, biased Judiciary… they are likely to be convicted of the real nature of TB Joshua. But when all they see are wild baseless gutter claims with no evidence, they will rightfully dismiss the blog as a pack of haters.

        @Jesse,kindly note that @tbjoshuawatch has confirmed that they have resisted running with many claims on TB Joshua because they lack evidence…..they have no credible evidence to back these claims.

        Finally
        Remember as Christians we are warned against talebearing, gossiping and bearing false witness. This is an unqualified command whether it is against our friends or enemies. That’s all I’m urging @Just Wonder. If both of you are addicted to petty gossip and silly conspiracies, this blog is not for you.

  11. This is exactly what I have been saying. Nigeria corrupt to the core and full of lies. Then they say that they are led by God and their prophets. Really ?

    “Nigeria’s state-owned oil company has failed to pay the government $16bn (£11bn) in a suspected FRAUD, according to an official audit.
    The Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) provided no explanation for the missing funds, the auditor general told MPs.”

    “When the then central bank governor Lamido Sanusi pointed out that billions of dollars were missing from the treasury, he was sacked from his job.
    Nigeria’s oil reserves should have been blessing for Nigeria to be used to build infrastructure and invest in social services.
    Instead, it has been a curse, a lubricant that has produced massive corruption and dysfunctional governments.”

    Source BBC.

    It only proves that all these prophets are completely useless with their “!prophecies” because they never point out who is actually doing it and who is responsible. It is always a general plain thing as anybody could tell you. One hand on someone’s back is covering the other as always. Then still telling you they are being led by God……which they clearly are not !

    Every day the sins of Nigeria are piling up in front of anyone. No remedy as the word of God tells us.

    Proverbs 29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

    And a true prophet would rebuke his country when they live in sin and debauchery to make the turn to the Lord and repent !

  12. Amen Jesse.

    Your comments are very insightful. It also reminds me of the following verses:

    The Great Apostasy-The falling away of:

    “LET NO ONE DECEIVE YOU by any means, for that Day will not come unless the FALLING AWAY COMES FIRST and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is ‘God’.
    7 For THE MYSTERY OF LAWLESSNESS is already at work, only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way and then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs and lying wonders and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved and FOR THIS REASON GOD WILL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE THE LIE – THAT THEY ALL MAY BE CONDEMNED who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness” -2 Thessalonians 2:1-12

    These verses makes me fear and respect God and His Word the more, because if He send you delusion, who must save you?

  13. A Call to Prayer

    “First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour”… 1 Timothy 2:2.

    Let us keep on praying for the devotees of tbj to see the truth and come out”.

  14. @ TB Joshua

    Your quote “What we do for God is only a reflection of the relationship we have with God.” – TB Joshua”

    Free translation of that claim.

    Building something that God did not command you to and allow it even be illegally.
    When it collapsed tell tall stories of the cause.
    Not turning up in Court when summoned.
    Lie
    Pay Lawyers to hinder the investigation and tell years ago we should not do it, but leave it up to God.
    Use other people’s money to buy them what you think they need.
    Bribe people.
    Bribe journalists.
    Make people work for you with that same money that is not yours to hinder any investigation about your own actions.
    Do fake interrogations of demons such as claiming through someone that Satan lives in Hell and that there is such a person that is the left hand of Satan.
    Do cut and paste prophecies.
    Make “prophecies” that you know things but don’t do anything about.
    Run away.
    Rub shoulders with others who are actually crooks.
    Brainwash people and inculcate them.
    Call out to others they blaspheme on your own failed works.
    Deceive.
    Save own skin.
    Use others to achieve own agenda at all costs even if people die in the process.
    Play victim.
    Send out people and personal journalists to oppose truth sayers.
    Use people to curse others and use mass media to promote yourself and your venture.

    That is what you pass off what you do for God. You are more despicable than anyone I know in my life.

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  16. This shows the duplicity of the legal system, especially in Nigeria, where bribery and corruption is the order of the day. And with the false prophet, T B Joshua, who is a professional bribe giver in the picture, you can be sure most people involved with this case have collected their own share of bribes and are not eager to prosecute the false prophet. Let them prove me wrong!

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