TB Joshua’s Worst Biblical Error

The second of two posts where a new contributor to TB Joshua Watch explores some of TB Joshua’s more bizarre and unbiblical teachings (first part here). As always, we welcome any civil debate in the comments section.

TB Joshua’s ministry is rife with error. He is, from the viewpoint of orthodox Christian theology, a Freaking Heretic.

But I think this is the worst. Because it deals with salvation. TB Joshua has made salvation contingent not on Jesus Christ, but on “deliverance” as defined by…(wait for it)…TB Joshua!

Please recall that TB Joshua styles himself as the lone untouchable prophet of God. He frequently “delivers” pastors and prophets and “men of God” from supposed demons. If they are ministering and delivering people in Jesus’ name while themselves demon possessed, clearly the only logical way to be sure one is properly “delivered” is to do it under the auspices of TB Joshua.

Sadly, this leaves an awful lot of people unable to be born again, because they cannot be delivered by TB Joshua. The vast majority of the world’s 7 billion people, and the Christian Church, don’t have a clue who TB Joshua is. According to this video, it is blasphemy for any of those people to say they are born again believers.

At about 2:40 in this video, TB Joshua says this:

[his victim is explaining that he is born again, but experiencing many troubles in life, possibly due to his family’s historical involvement in idol worship]

“No. It’s a blasphemy to say “Born Again.”  Without deliverance, no-one can be born again. Tell your neighbor…”

[at this point the poor dupe he’s castigating tries to say something and TB Joshua says “Please, remove the mic.”

“It is, it is blasphemy [audience repeats] to say I’m born again [audience repeats] without deliverance [audience repeats].   You know what I mean. You are taking from dark. Darkness. To light. And this cannot just happen by mere talk. Mere hope. Mere prayer.”

Oh no he didn’t! Did he?  He did.

What does Scripture tell us about salvation?

When the jailer asked Paul and Silas what he must do to be saved, they responded with this simple prescription: “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved.”

Jesus said it even more simply: “Follow me.”

Occasionally, we find reference to repentance and baptism, one preceding, the other following. What we do not find is “fasting and prayer to drive demons out” as a required precedent for being born again. We also do not find “falling out,” vomiting, interviews with demons, screaming, and “manifesting” as requirements of being born again, and we know that these things are what TBJ calls “deliverance.”

What TB Joshua has given us in this little gem is a gospel of works righteousness. We cannot be born again without first following his formula. I don’t think “blasphemy” means what he thinks it means. He’s certainly not using it correctly.

Scripturally, not a one of us can work our way to salvation. We cannot deliver ourselves. We cannot make ourselves “light” so that we can be saved once we’ve gotten all tidy and clean. No one can do it for us, either.

JESUS SAVES US OUT OF DARKNESS. He IS the Light. We do not pull ourselves out of the pit. To say that we must “get delivered” first is to negate the work of the cross. There is unbelief, and there is belief. There is darkness, and there is light. There is no ridiculous murky in-between of “I want to be saved but demons are preventing it, I need a prophet to get rid of them so that Jesus can save me and I can be called born again.” No. That, my friends, is the real blasphemy.

Back to the video, it appears that TB Joshua does offer the option of “Self deliverance.” You can be delivered in your house. If you fast and pray just right, you may “just find yourself delivered,” after which, you are in the right situation to be born again. That’s not particularly comforting. You “might” get delivered at home, if you do it just right. How can one be sure though? He does not explain.

We are left to assume that self-deliverance is iffy, while deliverance at SCOAN is a sure thing.

And then of course there is the problem of this being a blasphemous false gospel, creating salvation by works and self-righteousness, rather than complete and utter reliance on Jesus for salvation.

You know what I love about the real Gospel? It tells me that I CANNOT save myself, and it tells me that I have a Savior who has the power to save me from my wretched, awful, sinful state. The true Gospel tells me I can trust in Jesus because he is MIGHTY TO SAVE. No demon can prevent my salvation, if I indeed “have a demon.”  No. Jesus is no wimp. He does not need me to create the right environment (demon-free) in order to save me. I serve a God who is far mightier than TB Joshua seems to think He is.

Well done TB Joshua…

In our last post we exposed TB Joshua’s latest cut and paste prophecy where he claimed he predicted a bombing in America on a Monday, when in reality this vague prophecy was the result of three different, even vaguer prophecies which had been edited together to give us the impression it was more accurate than it was.

Some readers may have thought our analysis was petty and nitpicking, but to do so would miss the motivation behind what we do. We’re not writing to mock a self-proclaimed prophet who’s “prophecies” really don’t stand up to scrutiny. No, we’re writing because we’re angry. We’re angry that someone representing Christianity is using a tragedy for self promotion. We’re angry that what he claims was a prophecy was useless for anything except giving him bragging rights.

Regular commenter and previous contributor Giles put it best:

Well done TBJ .
8 people are dead. about 170 in hospital, many with amputations. They will spend the next few years with major psychological issues, and wont be able to think of anything else at night. Some wont be able to smell or handle raw meat. Others wont be able to stay calm after a balloon bursts.

And YOU have everyone clapping their hands- at YOU- because of your useless prophecies which help no one but yourself. You have everyone saying “well done Man of God!” “TB Joshua has pulled it off again!”

They’re right. TB Joshua has pulled it off again.

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  3. President Bingu Mutharika is dead, did TB Joshua predict it?
  4. The self serving motives behind TB Joshua’s prophecies
  5. TB Joshua’s US election dilemma

The Boston bombing, and another cut and paste prophecy from TB Joshua

Yesterday, in the wake of the Boston bombing news, we posted the following on twitter:

An accurate prophetic word from TB Joshua Watch(!)

An accurate prophetic word from TB Joshua Watch(!)

Just a few hours later this video was released. Turns out our prophetic ability is better than we imagined.

Sadly this is just more evidence that TB Joshua will shamelessly exploit a tragic situation for his own gain. Sadder still, he has an army of devotees who will lap up everything he says, gushing on their social media profiles about what a “true man of God” he is, without considering the substance of what he has actually said.

Let’s condense the prophecy into a few bullet points:

  1. Pray and fast for America on Monday
  2. There will be flames
  3. Something will be roaming around, wandering in a city in the United States (the Lord will subdue)
  4. American Homeland security should be tight, tight, tight.
  5. There will be bombings
  6. Homeland security is very important
  7. Large gatherings should be avoided or well secured
  8. There will be massacres

When you look at all those bullet points together, it’s not hard to see why people are impressed. The event in question did happen on a Monday, it was a bomb and it happened in a large gathering of people. Of course there is no date on TB Joshua’s video, so we don’t know how many Mondays have passed before this “prophecy” eventually became fulfilled, but credit where credit is due – a fair few facts were predicted.

That’s impressive.

Or at least it would be, if he said all these points at the same time.

But he didn’t.

This video is an edit of 3 different prophecies. The points above can be split up as follows:

Prophecy 1

  1. Pray and fast for America on Monday
  2. There will be flames

Prophecy 2

  1. Something will be roaming around, wandering in a city in the United States (the Lord will subdue)
  2. American Homeland security should be tight, tight, tight.

Prophecy 3

  1. There will be bombings
  2. Homeland security is very important
  3. Large gatherings should be avoided or well secured
  4. There will be massacres

Now we see that the two most accurate elements of this prophecy (a bombing happening on a Monday) were told in two totally separate prophecies. A bombing was predicted, but not on any particular day of the week. Given today’s tense political climate a bombing in America is sadly inevitable. A bombing happening in a large gathering of people is just stating the obvious. It was flames and “something roaming around” (no idea how that fits in!) that was predicted on a Monday. Predicting flames and a day of a week is vague enough that it will fit with many events.

We’ve shown previously how TB Joshua edits out inaccuracies from his prophecies to make them seem more accurate than they really were. Here we see how he stitches together three different vague prophecies given at different times, that together seem reasonably accurate, but taken apart (as they were originally given) are so vague they could mean anything.

Update: We have been criticised for omitting to mention that the third prophecy was supposedly related to the first and second prophecy, therefore they were not all separate as we implied. This is certainly the impression you are meant to get from the was the prophecy video is edited together, but really this just further emphasises the deception. In the third prophecy he says “you remember I said last week to pray for America”, then mentions three other occasions he’s said the same thing. They want to to believe that he is referring to the previous prophecy where he predicted flames on a Monday. This clearly isn’t really the case, because if it were the voice over would have said something like “on the following Sunday service he said…” rather than “…on another Sunday service he said…” and they would have given dates. If this link were established he would have at least predicted a bombing in America on a Monday – not much help to anyone, but something at least. Without this link established, all we’re left with is useless, vague titbits which need editing together before they begin to resemble anything like reality.

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  4. The self serving motives behind TB Joshua’s prophecies
  5. TB Joshua’s US election dilemma