When the sexual abuse scandal at SCOAN Athens became too difficult to contain, TB Joshua sent his henchman “Wiseman” Harry to shut down the branch and claim (falsely) that it was never an official SCOAN branch and it was started without authority. TB Joshua Watch has managed to obtain an audio recording (Greek with English interpretation) and transcription (English) of his final speech, and the chaos that ensued resulting in the police being called to break up what had virtually become a riot. Below we present the audio recording of his speech, the transcription, and a video of the aftermath. After that we have some personal reflections on the transformation of Harry from “gentle, good natured boy, with genuine love for Christ” to deceitful henchman of a false prophet.
Emmanuel. You all know very well that I am Greek. I am from Macedonia and the purpose I came to Greece was to meet my mother who is sick. From the moment I came to Greece, I keep hearing things about brother Andreas. Andreas did this, Andreas did that, since Friday. So since I came to Greece, I decided to speak to you. I don’t want to leave Greece unless I settle this matter. First of all, I want you to know that I am not here to judge Andreas. Judgment belongs to God. If I start judging him now, then soon I will be in the same problem, because the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 10:12 that he who thinks he stands well on his feet, it is better for him to watch out so he doesn’t fall down. So I am not here to judge him. I would like to tell you some things about my life. In 2010, when I received the anointing of God and became a wise man by God’s grace, I came to Greece for a revival. Many of you were present. After the revival, everyone expected me to come back to Greece to open a new church. My father in Christ Prophet TB Joshua provided the biggest and most beautiful place in Macedonia so I could start my ministry. For four years since that day, we have been paying the rent of that room without using it. Do you know why? Because I have not finished my training yet. I am not the only one who has received the anointing from the Prophet, we are 4 as those who watch Emmanuel TV know.
The reason I didn’t open the church in 2010 is because with the weaknesses I had then, I would not be able to stand against the temptations which were coming for me. So I decided to run back to my mentor Prophet Tb Joshua to receive more training. Let me tell you some things about Andreas. When Andreas left Nigeria in 2005 and came to Greece, he left that place with anger and disrespect for the Prophet, with rudeness because he didn’t want to finish his training under Prophet Tb Joshua. The same training we wise men received. We all thought that when he came to Greece he would find a job and continue his life as before. But when Andreas came to Greece, he started gathering people for home fellowship. Since then, that fellowship grew and became what it is today. Many of those that attended that fellowship didn’t go because of Andreas. They didn’t go to see him. They went there because they had love for Jesus Christ and love for the man of God Prophet TB Joshua. Many of you here today, before you became members of this fellowship, you had visited Lagos, Nigeria and seen the wonders and miracles that God is performing through his servant prophet tb Joshua. When you returned from Nigeria to Greece, because of your love for Christ and Prophet TB Joshua, you started gathering around Andreas. Let me tell you what happened in 2010. I remember it was Autumn, October. It happened straight after the revival here in Greece. In Lagos, Nigeria, Prophet TB Joshua had said on a live broadcast ‘Mr. Andreas needs to come back to Lagos for training’. Who remembers these words? I remember it very well because I was present when it happened. He said Mr. Andreas needs to come to Lagos for training. From that moment, Andreas had to leave here and go back to Nigeria for training. This was the will of God for his life. But Andreas chose to remain here and become a pastor. But a pastor without full training.
Why did you let him? – members shout.
Please let me finish. I believe you will receive your answer. The prophet had said Andreas must leave here, go back to Nigeria to receive training. Andreas chose on his own to disobey the prophet and be a pastor without necessary training.
This is hilarious- person in crowd shouts
Some people gathered that day and signed that they wanted to open a church but the prophet repeatedly said I have no branch anywhere all around the world. How many people have heard this? He has NO branch anywhere in all the world. Not in Greece, not in the UK , not in South Africa. What you call a church here is not a church , it is a fellowship. When people gathered and signed that they want to have a church, the prophet had NOTHING to do with this. The prophet didn’t sign and agree with this. If you look at the papers, you will never find the prophet’s name anywhere.
Who was sending the money?- person in crowd shouts.
I believe you are not ready to hear what I have to say. If you continue this way, I will stop my speech. Should I continue?
If you look on the papers, you will not see TB Joshua’s name anywhere. The Prophet is not managing the place, he is not a priest here, he is not the cashier here. You heard me well. The Prophet is not a cashier, not a priest neither the boss here. Neither the president that created this fellowship. If you look at the sign at the discreet title of the fellowship, you will find the name of the fellowship here. I do not call it church because it is not a church, it is a fellowship. If you look at the name it says “Church of All nations- Hearing Ministry”
Have you seen the word “Synagogue” on the sign? I am asking you. Have you seen the name “Synagogue” on the church here? What you see is Church of All Nations- Hearing Ministry. I told you, the Prophet has no branch anywhere in the world.
Since you are asking for us to come here to settle the matter, we are here with the decision that this fellowship must close. Immediately after today’s service, the moment I leave, this fellowship must close. (Wise man Harry gets angry with translator). You keep saying church, it is a fellowship. It is not a church. Prophet has said that we don’t have a single branch around the world, which is why this fellowship must shut down. For those of you that want to continue to be a member of SCOAN must go home and watch Emmanuel TV as the whole world does. You can’t get together and say “let us open a church in the name of the Prophet” This fellowship is closing. This is how things are in Macedonia, they just gather watch Emmanuel TV. Distance is not a barrier. Wherever you are, through Emmanuel TV by faith you can receive from God. So we have come to the end of this service. I would like the see the people who signed at the beginning of this fellowship because this fellowship must be erased from the papers because it has not happened with the approval of the prophet.
I will be praying for you and you be praying for me. I believe very soon, when by God’s grace we finish the training, the four wise men that the prophet is personally training, he will send us all around the world to open branches of the SCOAN. I believe as a Greek that I am, the Prophet will send me to Greece to open a branch of SCOAN.
But if you continue to blaspheme the name of God and speak against Jesus Christ, this will not help the prophet to send anyone to Greece. He will send me to another country where people appreciate the wise men. Thank you. God with you.
Crowd member: Shame on you! You should be ashamed! This is a cheap political speech! You tramp!
At this point chaos broke out. This is what happened in SCOAN Athens on 1st June 2014 before the police showed up.
Personal Reflections from people familiar with the event
From “John Smith” ex SCOAN Athens member:
“When Harry came to Athens to close the branch after the scandal was revealed, among the many lies joshua had told him to tell us to protect his name, he also said that Andreas the former Athens pastor, was not sent by joshua to open a branch, that he did it on its own!!! That he was a disobedient disespectfull arrogant and that he never finished his training in scoan. Of course theres no need for me to point out that all these are funny lies. Funny enough to the extent that harry himself before he became a disciple of joshua was living at the same house for six months in the scoan athens building with that disobedient disrespectful and arrogant pastor , and where studying and meditating the Word together.!!!! Funny enough it was this disobedient disrespectful and arrogant pastor who mediated and called joshua to sent him Harry as a disciple!!!!! and funny enough joshua listened to him and accepted Harry as a disciple!!! YES joshua accepted Harry as a disciple out of the recommendations of a disobedient disrespectful and arrogant person who had never finished his training left on his own went to Athens and opened an illegal branch in his name!!!! Can you imagine the extent to which they want to undermine our intelligence. The truth is that joshua had the perfect relations with Andreas until the end when the scandal unfolded and joshua through him away as he does with anyone see Zavlaris… yes the great false prophet was completely ignorant of the fornication taking place in his own branch!!! of course scoanites will say ” you can not blame joshua, he sees only what God shows him”, Oh you foolish scoanites isn’t you mentor that teaches you that CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME. But what actually shocked me that day is what Harry said about himself as the opposite example of Andreas. He said ” In 2010 when i came and made the crusade in Athens, after that everybody expected me to come back to Macedonia and open the Branch, but I realized that with the weakness I had back then I would not succeed in my mission thus I decided to go back to my mentor joshua to complete my training” implying that this is what Andreas never did. I was shocked!!! Then I realised that no one can ever be free from that charlatan. Do you imagine my friends what this delusional criminal joshua is teaching his people. After receiving the ultimate promise of GOD HIS SPIRIT Harry was in need to return to joshua for training…..!!!!! BLASPHEMY BLASPHEMY BLASPHEMY meaning the Spirit of God was completely unable to help Harry let alone Harry help others, thus joshua was needed I wish anyone could realise my sorrow. I really love Harry, I pray that he wakes up now that he is in Greece, he is a good boy good heart and always dreamed to serve God. I dont know why God allowed him to be trapped mentally and emotionally in that dangerous sect, under that cunning and sick person joshua. Lets pray his eyes will open soon. God has a plan”
From “Jeremiah” ex-SCOAN Athens member:
“Harry arrived at SCOAN Athens approximately the time I did, in the beginning of 2006. It was the pastor that inspired him to go to Lagos and their relationship was like Paul and Timothy…..but of course SCOAN discourages any kind of intimate relationship due to the divide and conquer policy for authoritative purposes on Joshua’s behalf. Those who were once the closest of friends became enemies and envy had paved its path. And beyond their respective personalities, I am more than convinced, that this was the work of the well hidden yet undeniable heresy taught at SCOAN, first and foremost, concerning the Holy Spirit. But I won’t get into that now….I have spoken extensively in previous posts. Now, Harry was a gentle, good natured boy, with genuine love for Christ and a heart ready to serve God. He was simple, humble and accessible. What I witnessed however on the 1st of June 2014, was a completely different story: the same arrogance, the same authoritative mannerism, the same lying spirit was displayed as in the SCOAN Athens pastor. AS IN SCOAN, PERIOD.”
From Just Wonder (who has family involved with SCOAN)
Look at how tbj changed Harry’s appearance alone. He looks like a proper cult leader. I know that Harry did not want to change his appearance, but tbj forced and threatened him, until he looks like this! Not to think how his spirit has changed and is caught in a trap! I will keep on praying for him and the rest of tbj’s boot licking devotees, to be saved, healed and delivered from that cult leader tbj. It is heart breaking to see in what they have changed into under that false prophet!