This vague undated prophecy (thought to be circa 2012) was released by Emmanuel TV to claim that TB Joshua predicted the recent deadly earthquake in Italy.
It hasn’t gone down all that well on youtube, here is a sample of the comments:
Even his supporters are chastising Emmanuel TV for putting out this shameful “prophecy” claim:
But not surprisingly many are still deceived:
If anyone has a link to the original, please post it in the comments.
OK, this post is just a bit of fun playing with Microsoft’s Project Murphy. It’s also a reminder that TB Joshua is not some kind of infallible holy man of God, he is a false prophet who like the prophets of Baal in 1 Kings 18, can completely legitimately be mocked. Enjoy, and post some more in the comments if you like! Instructions are here.
84 people were killed in Nice, when a truck driver rammed into the parade.
In a clip posted on youtube from the 17th of July SCOAN service, TB Joshua claims that he was praying constantly for France in the days leading up to the Nice truck attack. He spends about 5 minutes bragging about how God had shown him exactly what was going to happen, but he was not permitted to name the country (because God lets him in to secrets, but not mere mortals like his congregation of course), not once does he express any sympathy for those who lost their lives in the horrific attack, because it’s not really about them – it’s about him, and his incredible ability to see the future. That’s what is important isn’t it? At around 1:40 in the video, he says the following:
What I saw would have happened if not for prayer, would have killed at least 1500 people. The bomb in the vehicle would have killed a thousand people and everybody.
There’s only one problem with this statement. There was no bomb on the truck. How do you reconcile his bold statements claiming he saw all of this happening days before, with the fact he doesn’t even know exactly what happened after the event has taken place? The very thing he claims his prayers averted never even existed in the first place.
As horrific as the Nice attacks were, it still wasn’t as deadly as the collapse of his building. That’s the only deadly event he should be focusing on now, ensuring the investigation into it can be completed unhindered and the families can receive answers.
Willem Ouweneel is a Dutch biologist, philosopher and theologian and a well know figure in Dutch evangelical circles. In 2002 he visited SCOAN and wrote some positive articles about the experience, strongly endorsing TB Joshua and his ministry. He is probably the best known and most credible evangelical theologian to ever publicly endorse TB Joshua. Even 10 years later, SCOAN regularly put out articles on their numerous blogs using quotes from these articles to promote the ministry. Since Ouweneel had not written anything about TB Joshua for over 10 years, we thought we would get in contact to find out where he currently stands on the issue. He gave us the following statement to publish:
I do not endorse TBJ anymore, because:
- I have had no contact with SCOAN for more than ten years
- His irresponsible building activities, which cost more than 160 dear lives I believe (Editors note: 116 deaths, but many more seriously injured)
- Very serious rumors about sexual harassment of collaborators.
Nigerian blogger Peter Adeosun has just published an excellent article examining one famous “healing video” put out by Emmanuel TV “Walking Dead Returned to Life”, a video we never got round to watching until now. Adeosun points out that the video is actually a composite of 3 videos, video 1 is inside video 2 which is in turn inside video 3.
It’s a video of the full congregation in the church auditorium watching another video on a big screen. The video they’re watching is the recording of a miracle healing session that took place sometime ago. And in the video they’re watching, TB Joshua is talking to a very small group of people (40? 50?) in another venue, a smaller room. The people probably came for healing too. And he himself is talking to this small group of people, running commentaries on the healing of a man afflicted with a skin disease, the healing he did sometime ago.
This kind of complexity makes it difficult to follow along and piece together the timeline, in other words, you are totally at the mercy of their narrative, and it is a perfect way to bury what might otherwise be obvious deception. What honest reason could they have for telling the story in such a convoluted way?
If that’s not suspicious enough, Adeosun goes on to allege (with good evidence) that the man before and after is not in fact the same man. In his article he shows a side by side comparison of the before man’s face and side of head with the after man’s face and side of head, comparing some of the facial features. It is indeed very hard to believe it is the same person. Click the link to go to Adeosun’s site and let us know what you think?
These are the kind of videos that help feed the myth of TB Joshua, slowly people are coming to realise that, much like his edited prophecy videos, there are a lot of tricks at play in these healing videos. Follow the links below for more information.
Yesterday more than 80 people were killed in Nice, France when a man deliberately drove a large truck into a Bastille Day parade. The Sunday before, TB Joshua predicted an attack (on any country) on Thursday. He then led the congregation in prayers, covering Thursday with the blood of Jesus and praying that God will prevent the attack.
Sadly, the prayers of this “man of God/messiah of our time/Jesus of our generation” were completely unable to prevent this horror. The awful thing is, TB Joshua didn’t really want the attack to be prevented, because then he’d have nothing to release as a fulfillment of the prophecy. He wanted death, terror, blood, horror – he wanted a large news story to tag his vague premonition on to.
There are attacks every day at the moment in Iraq, Syria, South Sudan and Kashmir, so the chances of an attack “somewhere in the world” on a particular day of the week is certain. What if nothing did? No problem – he’d just never mention it again, like the attack on the UK he once predicted. These prophecies are so deceptive because they are framed in a way that makes them unfalsifiable. If something happens, his prophecy was correct, if something doesn’t happen, he predicted it. All you need is a large captive audience, and anyone could do the same thing.
Dear oh dear… As Britain still reels from the surprise Brexit result, ultra-narcissist prophet TB Joshua can’t bear to miss the chance to ride the wave. The day the result was announced, SCOAN released a video entitled “Prophet TB Joshua Speaks on the EU”. While they didn’t directly claim he predicted Brexit, many African news websites are publishing identical press releases claiming that he did, usually a sign that SCOAN (or one of their bankrolled journalists) is behind it. Here is a full transcript of the “prophecy” which cuts out half way through the word “back”:
“And Euro, we pray for this European community because I saw euro which hold them together will be affected and many country will want to go back.”
First of all, for those readers that may not know – Britain may be held to the EU by a lot of things, but the euro is not one of them. This “prophecy” appears to be talking about countries wanting to go back to their own currency, the UK never left in the first place. Secondly, this is actually the second time he’s wheeled out this vague prediction, the first time was in March 2015 in response to the plummeting value of the Euro (in this video release it included an extra bit at the beginning that made it abundantly clear he was talking about currencies failing, not countries leaving the EU). Finally, in response to those who say “well he predicted something, and it happened!” this “prophecy” was given on the 25th December 2011, just a couple of months after Forbes had claimed that “The European debt crisis is the most urgent crisis facing the global economy” and it was looking likely that Greece would leave the Eurozone. So not so much prophecy, more like regurgitating the news and exploiting the fact that many of his followers don’t keep up with world affairs.
If he was a prophet of the status he assumes, situations like this give him great opportunities to prove it. Brexit is an unprecidented move, and was largely unexpected. Even after the result of the referendum it’s not 100% certain that the UK will leave, they have to appoint a new Prime Minister first. If God is really chatting to you about these events TB Joshua, and showing you future events “as clearly as if I am watching Emmanuel TV” as you have claimed before, why not bring some clarity to this confusing and unsettling situation? Why not bring the wisdom of God? Why not show an example of where you have accurately predicted something unexpected? This video is nothing short of pathetic, but at least it has given us a good laugh.
Thanks to General who found the original, here’s a side by side comparison.