From the comments: What is love?

speech-bubbles-303206_960_720Occasionally we get a particularly insightful or helpful comment and we like to feature it as a post because many of our readers only read the articles and don’t follow the comments. The following post comes from a comment from D Haile, and is a powerful reflection on what it really means to “Love one another” and what the true motive behind TB Joshua Watch might be. If you are a supporter of TB Joshua, we encourage you to read this slowly and prayerfully so you can understand why we do what we do. We love you.

What is love?

If I see my little boy about to run into the road, because as a little one he cannot see or recognise the dangers, and I yell and scream and grab his arm to stop him from being injured or killed, is that not love? Am I not loving my son by saving him from pain and death?

If I see my grandfather about to drink from a bottle that says “poison” clearly on the outside, but his vision is poor so he can’t see it, am I not loving him shouting at him to stop and by hitting the bottle out of his hands? Is that not love?

If we figuratively shout at you all because we see the danger that you do not, of following a charlatan, a false prophet, a wolf masquerading in sheep’s clothing, is that not love?

Did Jesus not love the money changers and traders in the Temple when he whipped them out of there? Was that not love, love for them (to stop them from sinning) and love for the people they were conning?

Love is not fairy-tales, love is Truth.
Love is not “live and let live” or being ‘nice’, love is action.
Love is not feeling, love is doing.
Love is not keeping quiet for fear of offending, love is shouting the Truth from the rooftops.

The day we stop warning you and all your loved ones and friends of the danger that you are in following TB Joshua, that is the day we stop loving you, stop showing love, stop obeying the Lord Jesus when He COMMANDED us to “love one another”.

TB Joshua Watch, and Just Wonder and Mr Terrific and Bisola Johnson and all the other commenters on this blog are wasting hours of our time coming here to respond to comments like yours, not because we hate you or TB Joshua, but because we love you and we would like to see you saved from the pit that you don’t know you are in.

I know you will read this comment and think it all lies – how can we love all of you when we ‘attack’ your prophet? – but TB Joshua is not really our worry. He knows who he is and what he is and what he is doing. He is not a stupid man. He is a very clever man doing very clever things. Our worry, our concern, is YOU. All of you who follow him.

You cannot see what he is doing because you are deceived. And you don’t know you are deceived because you are deceived. You will read this with anger in your heart (“How dare she suggest I am deceived? No one has deceived me. T B Joshua is a Man of God and I love him as my papa”). But if you can, just for a second, stop and think.

When was the last time you spoke to the Lord Jesus yourself, on your own, without following a prayer led by T B Joshua or following a prayer guide or similar that he has written?

When did you last ask Jesus to reveal his Truth to you?

When was the last time you asked questions about what you are being taught?

When was the last time you read the Bible for yourself, without being directed to certain verses by TB Joshua, Emmanuel TV or one of the Wise Men (are they still around?)?

When was the last time you read more than a chapter of the Bible at one time, to understand better the context and co-text of the verses you know?

Who do you truly love more – the Lord Jesus (who died on the Cross for your sins, rose on the third day and ascended into Heaven and is now sat at the right hand of the Father) or TB Joshua (a man made in the likeness of God (as we all are) but not God)? If you remember Jesus said “If you love me you will obey my commands”. Well, whose commands do you obey more – Jesus or TB Joshua’s?

This last question will tell you all you really need to know about your relationship with God. If ANYONE sits above Jesus in your heart, you have a real problem, my friend. You need to decide who is more important to you – Jesus your Saviour or TB Joshua, your prophet. Be careful how you choose. And not choosing is also a choice – a choice not for Jesus but for something or someone else.

26 thoughts on “From the comments: What is love?

  1. What is clear to me TB Joshua has a greedy love of/for MONEY ! Especially when he can use it in to attaching his name to his charity efforts in the media and with brown envelopes with amounts written on it in how much. Then..Post it on YouTube and do bragga bragga about it. That, while he and the narrators and on Facebook make eloquent stories with big inflated words used. Especially also attach that giving (with his name TBJ mentioned over and over again deliberately and on purpose) IS they think the love of Jesus and of God.

    Any other charity does this and even Atheists and Facebook and many others without trumpeting all over the media. But SCOAN makes sure that everyone all over the world needs to know.

    SCOAN and their staff thinks that money is the ultimate way to express their kind of distorted love in order to get the flow of money keep coming. In which they take just a percentage for charity and bribe and buy people’s goodwill and the rest is used for themselves, walking around like peacock, big chested and splashing out on elaborate private jets and grand entrances where they can collect and siphon off more money to inflate their name even more.

    Such love is fake, false and is worth nothing.

    Matthew 6:3 But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

    Isaiah 55:1 Ho! Every one who thirsts, come to the waters; And you who have no money come, buy and eat. Come, buy wine and milk Without money and without cost. 2 Why do you spend money for what is not bread, And your wages for what does not satisfy? Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good, And delight yourself in abundance.…

    SCOAN and TBJ is and are in it only to make name for themselves and they call it love. That is why Africans have become materialistic and think possessions is making one great. But we know from God that rich men will not be able to go through the eye of a needle (port) as a fully loaded camel can not.

    Their Judgments are already before them as the Bible teaches us:

    Mark 8:35 For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it. 36 For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul? 37 For what will a man give in exchange for his soul?…

    • Does God hear or answer the sinner’s prayer? If TB is a sinner as you portray him, why is God hearing him? It is clear here that you are the devil’s mouthpiece and you think that we don’t know that the devil knows the Bible also. All your comment here is full of anger and motivated from the pit of hell. Don’t think that we’ll buy your comments because you’ve coded the Bible. We (Christians) knows what the devil said to Jesus when He was on 40 days fasting pertaining the angels serving Him (Jesus). Your comments are not new to Christians.

  2. Well, he reads the verses for me just like any prophet/pastor and I continue where he stopped, God sent him, to read for us. If he was not sent by God, he could have long been killed by his “billion” enemies, but he is protected. Did everybody love Jesus Christ? No!!! If you think TBJ is no good, leave it to GOD, you are not a judge and you will never be, if you don’t, you will end up with anxieties or dementia. Don’t forget you are not perfect, are you???

    • Fatimah,

      I have many enemies. Stop this foolish nonsense. I walk and go anywhere. Nobody touches me. Period.

      TB Joshua has bouncers around him and has to hide and now private jet. He has human protection. You call that protection from God ?

      What a joke ! He is a scared little man, even if it was from me. Because let him not cross my path or me his’.

      Me one on one in a field without anyone around. I will deliver him.

  3. @tbjoshuawatch. Very well said, this is the heart of Jesus Christ. May the Lord bless His words in the heart of his people.

  4. Well said – Haile and Jesse.

    In the meantime TB Joshua’s devotees inside SCOAN live like poor beggars. He gives them near to nothing to live on and makes sure they only eat when he says so and sleeps when he says so. He bribes his way open through life with other peoples’ money. He tried his bribing on me to, but sadly for him it did not work!.

    But he keeps on shouting; ‘Let love leads’ – having no clue what it means as a psychopath;

    SCOAN devotees, begging and bowing to tbj’s wims:

  5. TB Joshua – REPENT of your lovelessness toward God and man.

    The Mirror.

    1 Corinth 13.

    4 LOVE is patient,
    LOVE is kind,
    LOVE does not boast,
    LOVE is not proud,

    5 LOVE is not rude,
    LOVE is not self-seeking,
    LOVE is not easily angered,
    LOVE does not keep any record of wrongs,

    6 LOVE does not delight in evil,
    LOVE rejoices with the truth,

    7 LOVE always protects,
    LOVE always trusts,
    LOVE always hopes,
    LOVE always perseveres,

    8 LOVE never fails.

    Let us test and mirror Jesus with His own Word-

    JESUS is LOVE:

    : 4 JESUS is patient,
    JESUS is kind,
    JESUS does not boast,
    JESUS is not proud,
    5 JESUS is not rude,
    JESUS is not self-seeking,
    JESUS is not easily angered,
    JESUS does not keep any record of wrongs,

    6 JESUS does not delight in evil,
    JESUS rejoices with the truth,

    7 JESUS always protects,
    JESUS always trusts,
    JESUS always hopes,
    JESUS always perseveres,

    8 JESUS never fails.

    Let us MIRROR TB Joshua in the mirror of the Bible and see if hê passes the Biblical test of love:

    4 TB Joshua is patient,
    TB Joshua is kind,
    TB Joshua does not boast,
    TB Joshua is not proud,

    5 TB Joshua is not rude,
    TB Joshua is not self-seeking,
    TB Joshua is not easily angered,
    TB Joshua does not keep any record of wrongs,

    6 TB Joshua does not delight in evil,
    TB Joshua rejoices with the truth,

    7 TB Joshua always protects,
    TB Joshua always trusts,
    TB Joshua always hopes,
    TB Joshua always perseveres,

    8 TB Joshua never fails.

    2 If you have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge,
    and if you have faith that can move mountains,
    but have not LOVE,
    YOU ARE NOTHING
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Bible says that; “To be loveless is to be childish”. ( 1 Cor 13:11).

    http://www.freebibleimages.org/photos/jesus-dies/

  6. Now TB Joshua; “What about you” –

    The two thousand member Baptist church was filled to overflowing capacity one Sunday morning.

    The preacher was ready to start the sermon when two men, dressed in long black coats and black hats entered through the rear of the church.

    One of the two men walked to the middle of the church while the other stayed at the back of the church. They both then reached under their coats and withdrew automatic weapons. The one in the middle announced, “Everyone willing to take a bullet for Jesus stay in your seats!”

    Naturally, the pews emptied, followed by the choir. The deacons ran out the door, followed by the choir director and the assistant pastor. After a few moments, there were about twenty people left sitting in the church. The preacher was holding steady in the pulpit.

    The men put their weapons away and said, gently, to the preacher, “All right, pastor, the hypocrites are gone now. You may begin the service.”

    Will you be left?

  7. The actual time of the birth of Jesus Christ.

    Luke 1:5
    5 In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah,
    who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah…
    1 Chronicles 24:1-19

    3 With the help of Zadok a descendant of Eleazar (the priest Aaron’s son) and Ahimelech a descendant of Ithamar (the priest Aaron’s son),
    David separated them into divisions for their appointed order of ministering.

    10 ……… the eighth division to Abijah…….

    19 This was the priest’s appointed order of ministering when they entered the temple of the Lord, according to the regulations prescribed for them by their forefather Aaron, as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded him.

    Now we start to count to find out when the eighth division was on the Hebrew calendar?

    The first month:
    Exodus 12:1-2
    The Lord said to Moses and Aaron in Egypt,
    “This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year”.
    The Passover sacrifice of the Lamb.
    The first month of the Hebrew calendar is March/April, Passover, on our Roman calendar.
    1 Chronicles 24: 18
    States that there were 24 divisions per year-thus 2 per month, as there is 12 months per year.
    So Abijah’s division was the eighth division, which makes it the last two weeks of the fourth month of the Hebrew calendar.
    Counting roughly from the beginning of March, 8 divisions (2 per month) brings us to the last two weeks of June (when the angel appeared to Zachariah).
    Luke 1: 26-28
    26-28 In the six month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, which was roughly December of that year, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
    Count 9 months from there (December of that year), brings us to September/October the next year which is the Feast of Tabernacles time on the Hebrew calendar.
    All the Feasts of God were fulfilled in Jesus. Tabernacles/Sukkot when He was born. Pentecost/Shavuot when the Holy Spirit was poured out and Passover when He died on the cross of Calvary and shed His blood, for the remission of our sins and His resurrection from the dead after that.
    He was born on the Feast of Sukkot or Tabernacles, as it is now know, in a Sukkah or stable next to the full inn. See picture.
    It was and is still made by the Israelites from palm leaves to remember God’s provision for them during the wilderness wonderings and their sheep and lambs stayed with them in the Sukkots.
    Their little lambs were like their pets!

    Remember:
    Jesus gave us a command to remember His death and resurrection on Passover through the communion and water baptism and not His birthday.

  8. As I said,
    ‘Touch not mine anointed’ is a powerful mantra meant to shield ministers from ANY scrutiny. This only births poor stewardship

  9. For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ, 19whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame…

  10. “If a liar and deceiver comes and says, ‘I will prophesy for you plenty of wine and beer,’
    that would be just the prophet for this people!” – Mica 2:11

    https://www.informationng.com/2015/11/scoan-guest-house-collapse-t-b-joshua-others-prosecution-begins-on-monday.html

    5 This is what the Lord says:
    “As for the prophets who lead my people astray,
    they proclaim ‘peace’ if they have something to eat,
    but prepare to wage war against anyone who refuses to feed them.
    6 Therefore night will come over you, without visions and darkness, without divination.
    The sun will set for the prophets and the day will go dark for them.
    7 The seers will be ashamed and the diviners disgraced.
    They will all cover their faces because there is no answer from God.”
    8 But as for me, I am filled with power, with the Spirit of the Lord and with justice and might,
    to declare to Jacob his transgression, to Israel his sin.
    9 Hear this, you leaders of Jacob, you rulers of Israel, who despise justice and distort all that is right;
    10 who build Zion with bloodshed and Jerusalem with wickedness.
    11 Her leaders judge for a bribe, her priests teach for a price and her prophets tell fortunes for money.
    Yet they look for the Lord’s support and say, “Is not the Lord among us? No disaster will come upon us.”
    12 THEREFORE BECAUSE OF YOU, ZION WILL BE PLOWED LIKE A FIELD, JERUSALEM WILL BECOME A HEAP OF RUBBLE, THE TEMPLE HILL A MOUND OF OVERGROWN WITH THICKETS – Micah 3:5-12

  11. Other than love there is also the need to mind your own business.There is non perfect in an imperfect world and stop your manipulative sick campaign of propoganda,hate and vengence..its amazing how much time and effort you put into the weakness of others,exploiting and twisting every inch to your satisfaction in a develish way to please your clique or followers.the like minded weird crowd who lap up your instigations.One does not necessarily have to be a follower of TBJoshua to read through the lines in how mean and disrepectfull you are with your kind of love. If any,making me wonder if you know the word love?How warp,dysfunction and malicious you are to see the splinter in the eye of someone else without noticing the log in your own..I bet you have never learnt to see live and let live..I feel sorry for the likes of you who have the audecity to circulate your hate mail to someone who did not eve subscribe to your poisinous. mail it only goes to show how desparate you are to reach as many people with your smear campaign .I wonder who pay you and you website to disseminate such filth.Please convince me about where love is in your malice and who need you the biggest wolf in sheepskin,with your toxic mind.take my free advice and find something constructive to do.Your slanderous campaign will take you nowhere.And for your iinformation,stop sending me your sick circulars,because I never subscribe to your publication,don’t fool yourself that I’m interested in your insane material.
    Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Zambia.

    • @ Lizzy,

      His weakness was to allow to built illegally without building permit. Hardly a weakness than evil promoting your own agenda to build your own name and empire.

      That’s not weakness, that is willingly in being a crook and scheming your agenda and plans.

      Weakness is frailty, feebleness, enfeeblement, puniness, fragility, delicateness, delicacy, weakliness.

      Being a crook is criminal, lawbreaker, offender, villain, black hat, delinquent, malefactor, culprit, wrongdoer, transgressor, sinner.

      You clearly don’t see the difference, but let me point it out to you with the above.

      What is disrespectful is not showing up at Court when everybody else must when they are summoned.

      What is he ? god in his own country that is too afraid to do way with a sick deprived evil milk cow to peddle themselves forward as well the country it selves because of financial gain and tourism ?

      Righteous Judgement must apply for all citizens and subjects. Not having exemptions for elite’s with millionaire/billionaire status and bank accounts.

      Justice for all. If I did what he did I would be punished severely for life by the Court.

      Give me any good reason why he is exempt ? Because of doing good by the means of other peoples monies that are not his’ ?

      Africans in SCOAN have a personal selfish agenda. To make themselves great by evil means and ways as well being arrogant and sinning.

  12. Those who call him a false prophet because of what is happening around him,Can you prescribe what you want to see him do that would make him who you want him to be. And since those that claim he is wrong seem more right,what about praying for him so that God who never fails and is above all can transform him to what he should be. That might be much better than thinking you will talk people out of SCOAN. If you love those people so much, who you think are lost pray and God will rescue them.

    Otherwise you too sound like agents of Malice,Sabotage and Mud sling(still serving the same Devil you think he serves).

  13. JESUS THE SAVIOUR WAS ALSO CALLED A FALSE PROPHET THAT WAS WHY HE DID NO MIRACLE IN NAZARETH,AND HAD TO GO TO GALILEE,THEY EVEN QUESTIONED THE POWER BEHIND HIS NUMEROUS MIRACLES:THEY ENQUIRED FROM HIM WHICH POWER HE WAS USING.I KNOW ONE THING FOR SURE THAT SATAN IS THE GREATEST MANIPULATOR,AND BESIDE,THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME HE IS HAVING TO FACE THE LAW,YOU ARE IN NIGERIA DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED INTO POLICE CELLS FOR ALLEGEDLY DEALING IN NARCOTICS AND GUN RUNNING,BUT IN THE END HE WAS SET FREE:BY THE WAY WERE YOU GUYS IN EXISTENCE BY THEN?ONE THING I KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT NO ONE IS PERFECT EXCEPT JESUS AND HIS FATHER GOD.BUT FOR NOAH THIS PRESENT GENERATION WOULD NEVER BE IN EXISTENCE,WITH REGARD TO THE ARK AND THE FLOOD:WE READ WHAT HE DID WHEN THE FLOOD WERE OVER;HE DRUNK HIMSELF TO STUPOR.SO PEOPLE OF TBJWATCH,HUSH.NO ONE MAN IS THE REPOSITORY OF ALL KNOWLEDGE,JUST AS NO ONE MAN IS THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.THERE IS A POPULAR AKAN PROVERB IN GHANA WHICH SAYS GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH BUT WAITS,AND WHEN GOD PICKS A STONE HE IS NOT IN A HURRY TO THROW IT.EVERY GENUINE MAN OF GOD SHALL FACE ATTACKS BY THE DEVIL,THERE ARE SO MANY PRECEDENTS.I HAVE STUDIED TBJ,MY PAPA SINCE 2009 TO OCTOBER 2014 PREACHING UPON PREACHING ARTICLES UPON ARTICLES UNTIL I FIRST VISITED HIS CHURCH IN ACCRA OFF SPINTEX,SO YOU SEE SOME OF US ARE NOT THAT STUPID AS YOU PORTRAY US TO BE.A PROPHET IS NOT
    WELCOME IN HIS OWN HOME.BUT IF THE GOSPEL BE HID,IT IS HID TO THEM THAT ARE LOST.2 CORINTHIANS 4:3.GOOD MORNING.

    • @Jay
      I can’t get my head round how frequently we see this faulty logic. Jesus was called a false prophet even though he wasn’t, so TB Joshua is obviously legit too! You’re kind of ignoring all the words of JESUS where he warned us of false prophets. Your “defense” of TB Joshua could be used in just the same way to support any false prophet, so your “logic” is undermining the words of Jesus – nice one!

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